Joe Arpaio: Barack Obama birth proof 'may be forged'

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Rich_Olszewski said:
Good. Write to your Congressmen and the newspapers and let them know.
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Rich, do you and people like you think that somehow us conservatives WANT Obama to be ineligible when it comes down to it?

Of course, in some ways, yes. It would totally nullify all he has done and who he has appointed. That would be a very, very good thing. He’d also likely see time in prison, another great thing for the man is an outright criminal.

BUT, we also realize that it would absolutely destroy the country. However, that reality of how grievous it is actually necessitates investigation for we are talking about possibly ignoring the complete shredding of the US Constitution. We’re talking about the equivalent of your transatlantic pilot never having gone to Flight School. Or a defense lawyer on a capital murder case who has never gone to law school or even passed the bar. It’s just that serious. Plugging our ears and hoping we make it overseas and not to the bottom of it, or that we are found innocent as we know we are, doesn’t help anything when the plane is plunging or the gavel is struck and “guilty” was rendered.

Further, he is wanting to be put on 2012 ballots which is what the investigation was related to, not 2008.

You actually think some yahoo with a potential for a great pension, a heath care plan that isn’t Obamacare, etc will jump on this grenade? Are you kidding me?

This is something the people must demand en masse and outside of the realm of their representatives because these same reps are in bed, generally, with the status quo.

We’re watching the end of an empire, not some great race into utopia.

This is our future if this is not addressed:

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BlindManWalking said:
Rich, two years ago there wasn’t a claim of a Long form BC.

Now there is:

Let’s look at the new evidence, shall we?

youtube.com/watch?v=jrQp6qSgX_I&feature=player_embedded
youtube.com/watch?v=ID_KfcmG9gs&feature=player_embedded
youtube.com/watch?v=S40WKxKSlHc&feature=player_embedded
youtube.com/watch?v=jzDWmXNBvto&feature=player_embedded
youtube.com/watch?v=8XVxdPQrHsI&feature=player_embedded
(selective service registration, an issue) youtube.com/watch?v=CHAM3hRI8_Y&feature=player_embedded

Just too many inconsistencies.
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Thank you for that.👍👍

And it’s interesting that Rich answered what I thought he was going to answer----he has NOT looked at the new evidence that has come up. He has made up his mind that this is false without looking at the NEW evidence. In other words, “I can’t believe the guy I support would be that dishones, so whatever you show me, even if it’s hardcore evidence-wise, is a fraud.”

Predictable, of course.
 
seekerz said:
Yeah, let’s do. That post last night about weird noises from the sky is the first indication that we are nearing the materialization of The Event. Heck he even resembles President Martinez - who’s he kidding?:D:D
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Don’t try to use dismissive, ridiculist humor to deflect the subject, Seekerz.

Those are two different things we are talking about and you know it.

Yep.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
Thank you for that.👍👍

And it’s interesting that Rich answered what I thought he was going to answer----he has NOT looked at the new evidence that has come up. He has made up his mind that this is false without looking at the NEW evidence. In other words, “I can’t believe the guy I support would be that dishones, so whatever you show me, even if it’s hardcore evidence-wise, is a fraud.”

Predictable, of course.
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And who do you think gives a rat’s behind as to what I think about the subject? I consider it a non-issue. If you want, go shout it from the rooftops. See who is listening. 🤷
 
BlindManWalking said:
This is our future if this is not addressed:
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Then get up a petition to the Congress to investigate the matter. See how they’ll respond to your petition.

Don’t get into bed with the crazies who are pushing this nonsense - please!
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
And who do you think gives a rat’s behind as to what I think about the subject? I consider it a non-issue. If you want, go shout it from the rooftops. See who is listening. 🤷
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I happen to care. you are one of the “regulars” here, Rich. And I value your opinuons. I may totally disagree with them, but I support your right to express them here. I’m sure you sometimes care about what i think, sometimes not, but that’s ok by me. We are just one of many voices here.

Last time I looked here nobody is reporting you to the mods or criticizing you here, Rich.
I’m disappointed you have up your mind and refuse to look at the evidence, but oh, well.
it happens. We’ll see, though, whether no one cares in a few months.

But anyway, that is NOT true that nobody (at least not me) cars about what you think here, Rich. :(🤷
 
BlindManWalking said:
Rich, do you and people like you think that somehow us conservatives WANT Obama to be ineligible when it comes down to it?

Of course, in some ways, yes. It would totally nullify all he has done and who he has appointed. That would be a very, very good thing. He’d also likely see time in prison, another great thing for the man is an outright criminal.

BUT, we also realize that it would absolutely destroy the country. However, that reality of how grievous it is actually necessitates investigation for we are talking about possibly ignoring the complete shredding of the US Constitution. We’re talking about the equivalent of your transatlantic pilot never having gone to Flight School. Or a defense lawyer on a capital murder case who has never gone to law school or even passed the bar. It’s just that serious. Plugging our ears and hoping we make it overseas and not to the bottom of it, or that we are found innocent as we know we are, doesn’t help anything when the plane is plunging or the gavel is struck and “guilty” was rendered.

Further, he is wanting to be put on 2012 ballots which is what the investigation was related to, not 2008.

You actually think some yahoo with a potential for a great pension, a heath care plan that isn’t Obamacare, etc will jump on this grenade? Are you kidding me?

This is something the people must demand en masse and outside of the realm of their representatives because these same reps are in bed, generally, with the status quo.

We’re watching the end of an empire, not some great race into utopia.

This is our future if this is not addressed:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z298/rude_piggiest/obama_fiddle.jpg
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👍👍👍
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Good. Write to your Congressmen and the newspapers and let them know.
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part of me believes that deep inside the reason you refuse to look at these recent findings is that you are afraid there could be truth behind the claims. it is easier to attack the messenger and the conservatives than to admit you might be wrong.
 
ProVobis said:
I’m with you there.

The big problem is when these people who live for these rumors are disproved, their credibility is somewhat tarnished and it makes the object that much stronger. The Donald can give us all a lesson there.

Let’s stick to what we do know.
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what do you mean by “people who live for these rumors”? i certainly don’t sit around 24/7 dwelling on this topic. however, i don’t think it is a topic that should be brushed aside either.
 
7_Sorrows said:
part of me believes that deep inside the reason you refuse to look at these recent findings is that you are afraid there could be truth behind the claims. it is easier to attack the messenger and the conservatives than to admit you might be wrong.
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My problem with the evidence is that I have not yet seen it. I see some YouTube links, but I do not consider social media evidence. If there is real evidence, it will surface and I will see.
 
pnewton said:
My problem with the evidence is that I have not yet seen it. I see some YouTube links, but I do not consider social media evidence. If there is real evidence, it will surface and I will see.
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Those “Youtube” links are from the investigatory committees explanations hosted by third parties.

If the Gospel were on a YT video, would you reject it too because of its place of hosting?

Please. You’re just finding any excuse.

Here is a Youtube video of the actual press conference, and you will not find information which contradicts the other videos.

youtube.com/watch?v=6Qm7Idz3OY8

If the result was a Youtube video of Arpaio saying “Nope, nothing here, all clear!” I bet you’d love linking it all over this thread.
 
BlindManWalking said:
Those “Youtube” links are from the investigatory committees explanations hosted by third parties.

If the Gospel were on a YT video, would you reject it too because of its place of hosting?

Please. You’re just finding any excuse.

Here is a Youtube video of the actual press conference, and you will not find information which contradicts the other videos.

youtube.com/watch?v=6Qm7Idz3OY8

If the result was a Youtube video of Arpaio saying “Nope, nothing here, all clear!” I bet you’d love linking it all over this thread.
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Indeed…👍👍
 
BlindManWalking said:
Those “Youtube” links are from the investigatory committees explanations hosted by third parties.

If the Gospel were on a YT video, would you reject it too because of its place of hosting?

Please. You’re just finding any excuse.

Here is a Youtube video of the actual press conference, and you will not find information which contradicts the other videos.

youtube.com/watch?v=6Qm7Idz3OY8

If the result was a Youtube video of Arpaio saying “Nope, nothing here, all clear!” I bet you’d love linking it all over this thread.
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👍👍 thanks!!!
 
BlindManWalking said:
If the Gospel were on a YT video, would you reject it too because of its place of hosting?
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If the Gospel was only on YouTube, yes that would be dubious. Your last sentence is dead wrong, btw. You aren’t very good at reading me, that’s for sure.

I will await evidence. This Sheriff was embroiled in a battle against the Administration. I will wait and see if any evidence is found that is not so unbiased. This thing doesn’t pass the smell test. I heard they had the guy that was involved in all the swiftboat stuff at the news conference. If this is a forgery, and a bad one (it failed every test). Then why isn’t one reporter in the country making a Pulitzer off it. It should be a cake walk if it really fails every test. I question the validity of any test that is done for the purpose of finding a specific answer.

Here is the website that produced this youtube video
westernjournalism.com/

Do they really look like journalist to you? I think Occam’s razor cuts this mess clean.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
In the near future, anyone who doesn’t know how to barter or have anything to barter with will be dead meat.
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Of course, many will barter by using your/mine/our lives as the price (otherwise known as theft or permanently borrowing).
 
Nec5 said:
Of course, many will barter by using your/mine/our lives as the price (otherwise known as theft or permanently borrowing).
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That is why I own and know how to use firearms.
 
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