Joe Biden’s Claims of Cognitive Tests Unclear as Campaign Hides Results

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Montrose . . .
He (Biden) has more experience than Trump.
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Parenthetical mine for context.

First of all if he is corrupt (the Ukraine deal and the Chinese deals, MAY be dirty) the experience, if BAD experience, is not necessarily a positive here.

Second of all, experience becomes less and less relevant the more and deeper dementia sets in.

Thirdly, Biden has pushed for more abortion protection. If he uses his experience in such ways (and he has made campaign promises that says he will) as to INCREASE MURDER of innocent babies, then Biden’s experience actually becomes a negative.
 
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One good thing about early dementia, he might forget how corrupt he is.
 
Montrose said:
He spent 8 years as a VP and has dealt with foreign leaders. He has more experience than Trump.
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Experience in doing what? Being a globalist and entering the US into terrible foreign agreements like the Iran deal? Or blackmailing Ukraine into firing their prosecutor?

Biden has experience making bad decisions. That’s about it.
Thbolt said:
That’s going to be a winner when compared to the 135000 Americans who died of COVID.
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This argument is about as cogent as one who would say that Trump has saved 2.1 MILLION American lives.
 
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Thbolt said:
That kind of like thanking the thief for only stealing $1000 from you when he could have stole $10000
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All three arguments are pretty dumb, huh! Now, if only someone would wise up and stop making such stupid arguments…
 
Okay, that makes about as much sense as saying Trump is responsible for the 135K deaths caused by a virus.

With that kind of nonsensical post, I’m starting to think we might have Biden himself here posting stuff.
 
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Thbolt said:
When you the President, you’re in charge. If it happens, if it doesn’t happen, you are responsible. Trump is responsible for the American government’s complete failure to protect American lives. Yes, there will be people like you that excuse that, but most of us have some expectations of the President and Trump has failed them.
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So you are agreeing that since he is in charge, he is to be credited since we have not had the $2.1 million deaths the experts said we would have if he did nothing?

No, I didn’t think you were saying that. Because that would be about as stupid as saying he was personally responsible for the 135K deaths.
 
Comparing cultures and nations is like comparing apples and oranges.

Did “the experts” predict up to 2.1 million American deaths if we “did nothing”? Yes. Therefore, using your ridiculous logic, he is responsible for saving 2 million Americans.

Of course, your logic is as wrong as your emotions.
 
And since the United States of America is a collective of independent states with some well defined autonomy and every State has a Chief Executive - Governor … those Governors are responsible for the COVID-19 virus response and the federal government’s role is to provide support and aid …

Each Mayor - especially of major cities and Governor was responsible for their individual action plan

Support and Aid - for example getting manufacturers to stop making car parts or other commodities to manufacturing respirators by request or federal powers if necessary, reducing “red tape” to expedite aid and development of tests and medical supplies and vaccines, providing temporary hospitals and the medical staff to operate them and doing so expeditiously … Trump did so though through Public / Private partnerships, military and government agencies …

The federal government could restrict foreign travel - Trump did so …

Trump did no have the authority to cancel Mardi Gras as the Mayor of New Orleans suggested Trump should have - after they did not cancel it an suffered a surge in COVID-19 cases.

Trump did not order Cuomo to send COVID positive patients to nursing homes.

Trump is blasted for not doing more - the Governors claim their States are the purview of Presidential actions as the Governors say Trump should have stepped in and did this or that …

THEN

When Trump says he will do more the Governors blast Trump for thinking acting the dictator and the Governors exert their Command and Control
 
Thbolt said:
That kind of like thanking the thief for only stealing $1000 from you when he could have stole $10000. USA #7 in the world in death rate from COVID (look out France, here we come).
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On a per capita rate the US has the 4th worst death death rate in the world. See link below. Even if it were 7th worst that is nothing to boast about!

www.statista.com

Infographic: COVID-19 Deaths Per 100,000 Inhabitants: A Comparison

This chart shows COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 of the population in the 10 worst affected countries.
www.statista.com www.statista.com
 
Spot on assessment. Comparing the US to any other country re management of this virus,exposes the lack of understanding of state’s rights. The attempt to fault Trump for this is all politically driven.If God forbid JB should be the next POTUS,just watch how this virus will suddenly be a non issue.
 
If the death rate continues to climb and we have hundred of thousands of covid death in just a few months under Biden, I will bet the republicans will blame him. Tucker and Hannity will devote hours of tv to Biden bashing. Pages of CAF will be filled with Trump had deaths, but at least he was police.

If states rights mean that we tolerate over 130,000 deaths due to incompetence, then really our system is flawed.

How is it that we don’t have enough PPE still? Still. How is it that parts of the country had months to prepare to protect their citizens? And still we have this high level of death.
 
Per Fauci and Brix,their initial projected deaths by this time was between 2 and 3 million.That was if we did things perfectly.
We are way under that number.Additionally,the greatest percentage of those deaths have occurred in nursing homes.
 
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F_Marturana said:
How is it that we don’t have enough PPE still? Still. How is it that parts of the country had months to prepare to protect their citizens? And still we have this high level of death.
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Ask those governors, both democrat and republican.

I honestly don’t think anyone is going to blame Biden if he won and the rates still climbed. Some will out of spite and a “tit for tat” mentality, but fair people will treat it the same way they did under Trump.

To turn your question around, do you see those blaming Trump will jump onboard blaming Biden if things stay the same or worsen under a Biden presidency? Somehow, I doubt that. They’ll still lay it at the feet of Trump, using the same excuses they did for Obama when he inherited a stabilized Iraq (but threw it away with his anti-surge mentality) and inherited a bad economy (which he exacerbated with the slowest “recovery” in history).
 
Did you not watch the daily briefings featuring the experts? I did and early on that was their projection.They did revise their numbers stating the models they were relying on were inaccurate.
Bottom line is the fact that this virus management is ever evolving.The huge uptick in case is due to more testing and it is the young adults who are contacting it.Most of whom have ,on average mild symptoms.Personally,I think it’s good that they are getting out,this will help with the herd immunity aspect.We can’t hide forever,it seems this virus just has to run its course.
 
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So post the quotes.

Trump said doing nothing would cost 2 million deaths. He saved 2 million.

If Fauci said 2 million were projected to die, the quotes should be readily available.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if Biden’s cognitive faculties were declining. Wouldn’t be the first time we had such a president.
 
I’m not able to cut and paste as Ive said numerous times on this forum.Im sure you only need to google and find them for yourself.🤨
I just typed that n Dr Birx’s projections in March for Covid deaths.It came right up,2,2 million
 
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They were getting information from federal sources … sorry - Trump was not preventing federal employees from doing their jobs … and in fact he stressed that hard working employees were working and when the press was politicizing everything as Trump administration failures - they were really denigrating every federal employee …

The got the information that the government had and was updating constantly as new information was obtained.

Drs Brix and Fauci were available and the press was invited … some failed to cover the briefings and many were there to ask the Trump ‘gotcha’ questions rather than ask real questions of the experts assembled.

And out of sight from the cameras - federal employees were working and while there my be some slackers - they were working hard to get information out, move supplies, respond to requests …

And Trump was working with 50 plus governors/leaders [the states plus territories in case you thought I had an Obama 57 states moment] and the various mayors of large cities and the private sector [suppliers, manufactures, pharmaceuticals, etc] to get medical supplies to the locations they were needed. Including hospital ships … I remember Rachel Maddow said it would take months to get the ship to NY … it was there a couple of days after she said that … and NY failed to utilize it … and the conference center was also not used and they turned their noses up at Samaritans Purse Hospital in Central Park - even during a pandemic the anti Christian bias could not take a holiday … instead the State of NY sent COVID patients to nursing homes which resulted in needless deaths…

But Trump - Bad …as a federal employee … I take offense …and since during my career I have worked in the private sector, military, state, county and federal - civilian … I do know what the various roles are, what has to happen before the feds can ‘step in’ … even what has to happen in a county or city before the state can intervene …

We have a complex society … luckily some of the red tape and regulations are being relaxed which has allowed the private sector to respond and help the government be more efficient and effective … and if we are going to have a vaccine before the year is out - it will be because of initiatives like the public/private partnership that are now in place.
 
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