Joesph Smith and the Civil War prophecy

[why_me]

I like the phrase “vain imaginings” A false prophet makes good guesses in order to be recognized. It is an activity of vanity.

I suppose that many people had the same opinion at the time of the Old Testament. I suppose that many were claiming: ‘vain imaginings’ when the OT prophets were being prophets.

I think that we can see this with some of the reactions to the OT prophets.

 

[Elric]

I suppose that many people had the same opinion at the time of the Old Testament. I suppose that many were claiming: ‘vain imaginings’ when the OT prophets were being prophets.

I think that we can see this with some of the reactions to the OT prophets.

That is very likly true.

But Mr Smith wasnt being a prophet, he was telling imaginative stories.

 

[Jerusha]

In my mind, a true prophecy must have a “fork” , or a clause that says “if you do not repent and do [this] then[this] will happen.” People are not helpless to shape human history.

JS’s prophecies only took a lot of imagination, and a light sprinkle of common knowlege. And a predisposition to enslave people to a religion that is addictive as crack cocaine.

 

[majick275]

here is a partial list of failed LDS prophecies:

freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/835357/posts

and here is the LDS apologetics attempting to justify failed prophecies:

jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_prophets.shtml

that should give you both sides of the coin. you decide

 

[Martwen]

here is a partial list of failed LDS prophecies:

freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/835357/posts

and here is the LDS apologetics attempting to justify failed prophecies:

jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_prophets.shtml

that should give you both sides of the coin. you decide

Good websites thank You:thumbsup:

 

[Martwen]

In my mind, a true prophecy must have a “fork” , or a clause that says “if you do not repent and do [this] then[this] will happen.” People are not helpless to shape human history.

JS’s prophecies only took a lot of imagination, and a light sprinkle of common knowlege. And a predisposition to enslave people to a religion that is addictive as crack cocaine.

There are many prophecies about Christ’s coming that did not contain on If then statement

 

[Martwen]

That is very likly true.

But Mr Smith wasnt being a prophet, he was telling imaginative stories.

You and I know this to be true but there are many who believe that Mr. Smith was a profit and sent by God. They also will tell you that the Church fell into Apostasy and does not have authority to teach anymore!

 

[Jerusha]

There are many prophecies about Christ’s coming that did not contain on If then statement

You are right. I am talking about a contemporary definition, then. Again, derived through a study of history and use of some intuition. NOT some kind of ego-building, profit-making shamanism.

And, sometimes, one or the other clause is omitted, being self-evident in the times in which it was written or spoken.

 

[Pa_Pa]

This is no prophecy- it’s what almost anyone taking a look at politics in those days would have forseen. It is obvious that the intent of his passage is to predict that the Southern States will call in help for Britain, and anyone who saw the Civil War unfolding would have forseen the same thing. But you know what? It didn’t happen as predicted.

JS was dead for 15 years and he saw that the “Civil War” would begin in South Carolina…works for me!