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He was just being humble. I think Trump/Kasich (especially in the Rust Belt) would be Hillary Clinton’s worst nightmare. Kasich also is a strong prolife voice, yet appeals to moderates and conservative Dems. He softens Trump’s Dem created ‘racist, sexist, bigot’ straw man quite a bit. Makes it look a little Elizabeth Warren wacko…and of course Kasich adds experience to the ticket.
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Do those include the “Reagan Democrats” we keep hearing about who haven’t voted Democratic in how long? Seems that ship might have sailed long ago. And Barack Obama still won 2 terms in 2 rather easy Electoral College wins.
 
He just doesn’t seem to have “it,” whatever “it” is now, Sy. He’s so bland, and he’s a terrible speaker.
Now I don’t feel bad about saying that he should have dropped out when Jeb Bush did. :cool:
 
He just doesn’t seem to have “it,” whatever “it” is now, Sy. He’s so bland, and he’s a terrible speaker.
Sad that theatrics takes precedence over common sense. But then I doubt most people even listen to what a candidate says.
 
Now I don’t feel bad about saying that he should have dropped out when Jeb Bush did. :cool:
He should have, you are right. Of the two, I actually liked Jeb better. I wasn’t a great fan of George W., but Jeb seems okay. I’m sorry he didn’t get a better shake this election. Too many Bushes in the garden already, I guess. His lineage was against him for one thing, and he never overcame Trump’s criticism that he was “low energy.” I just see him as a calmer person than Trump, and that’s not bad.
 
He should have, you are right. Of the two, I actually liked Jeb better. I wasn’t a great fan of George W., but Jeb seems okay. I’m sorry he didn’t get a better shake this election. Too many Bushes in the garden already, I guess. His lineage was against him for one thing, and he never overcame Trump’s criticism that he was “low energy.” I just see him as a calmer person than Trump, and that’s not bad.
I agree … but I didn’t care for everything he did in the race either: a few months ago it became quite clear that Rubio was the favored moderate. Bush, also moderate, instead of accepting that this wouldn’t be his year, seemed to make it his mission to take Rubio down – presumably allowing him to take his place, but it didn’t work. Instead it turned into a race where no moderate really had a chance.
 
I agree … but I didn’t care for everything he did in the race either: a few months ago it became quite clear that Rubio was the favored moderate. Bush, also moderate, instead of accepting that this wouldn’t be his year, seemed to make it his mission to take Rubio down – presumably allowing him to take his place, but it didn’t work. Instead it turned into a race where no moderate really had a chance.
I think Rubio kind of killed his own chances when he decided to act like Trump, i.e. terribly, foully. The difference is that is who Trump is and people know it. People expected more from Rubio, more dignity. Rubio truly is a man with principles.
 
I think Rubio kind of killed his own chances when he decided to act like Trump, i.e. terribly, foully. The difference is that is who Trump is and people know it. People expected more from Rubio, more dignity. Rubio truly is a man with principles.
Thank you for this. Now it makes sense to me why Rubio took such a hit simply be doing what Trump has been doing all along while Trump only gets more popular. People expect that behavior from Trump. They expected more out of Rubio.
 
I think Rubio kind of killed his own chances when he decided to act like Trump, i.e. terribly, foully. The difference is that is who Trump is and people know it. People expected more from Rubio, more dignity. Rubio truly is a man with principles.
Yeah. Indeed he later regretted how he had acted.

But in a way I can’t really blame him. As I see it our (if you’ll pardon the pronoun) mission was to stop Trump in the primary season, and at the time it was reasonable to think that “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” might work.
 
Thank you for this. Now it makes sense to me why Rubio took such a hit simply be doing what Trump has been doing all along while Trump only gets more popular. People expect that behavior from Trump. They expected more out of Rubio.
As Trump said “Hostility works for some people, it doesn’t work for everybody.”

Probably the best chance of beating Trump would have been if one of the other candidates had been entirely focused on winning the primary, and didn’t care at all about anything else like the good of the Party or winning the General Election.
 
I think Rubio kind of killed his own chances when he decided to act like Trump, i.e. terribly, foully. The difference is that is who Trump is and people know it. People expected more from Rubio, more dignity. Rubio truly is a man with principles.
Yep. He had my vote until that.
 
Yeah. Indeed he later regretted how he had acted.

But in a way I can’t really blame him. As I see it our (if you’ll pardon the pronoun) mission was to stop Trump in the primary season, and at the time it was reasonable to think that “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” might work.
Yes, I can understand it, and I could forgive Rubio for it. I don’t see why most people could not. He was trying to help the country, to save it from Trump.
 
Yes, I can understand it, and I could forgive Rubio for it. I don’t see why most people could not. He was trying to help the country, to save it from Trump.
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Oddly enough, I didn’t agree with the praise that many people heaped on Kaisch for being “the adult in the room”, at least not entirely: I got the impression that he basically didn’t care who the next president is, if it wasn’t him.
 
Btw, there was a lot of talk about how Gov Pence praised both Cruz and Trump in his “endorsement” speech.

I’m curious whether we will hear any politician do the reverse: something along the lines of “A few weeks ago I realized that I wouldn’t be happy with the nominee whoever it is. And I’m not. But I’ll vote for him anyhow.”
 
I think Kasich was too moderate to try to be the GOP nominee. Romney and McCain both got crushed as the nominees and they were moderate.
 
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