Jonah Story Literal or not?

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I’ve heard it from some apologists and biblical scholers too. It’s a prefigurement of Christ’s Passion, death, and ressurection.
 
Nope. Dont you think it will be accepted at all scholarship cycles? Even orthodox Christian do nit believe in that. Even Christian scholars from other denominations dont. Even secular ones dont. So it was proven Jesus existed all believe he was real even secular scholars. This is only the belief of sone catholics who want it sk bad rk be true. You are trying to use a miracle in order to convince me of your view on the passages of the bible? I dont think that is what God wants . I believe in God because my life is meaningless. My religion is orthodox Christian but i dont believe in saints. Its not a salvation issues
in my opinion and i go to liturgy with no problem. I find it dumb to pray to people church cannonzed. For example. Romanov now is a saint. I aint gonna pray to a dude who did cocaine and trusted a lunatic mystic as his right side.
 
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I dont see all scholars accepting jt. Matter of fact i see very few. Soooooo yeah im just gonna back off from this before it gets into a debate which its motives gonna be “feelings” and not “facts”
 
Lol because i refuse to read a book? How about showing me real analysis? Like actual data and not point me to a book. I can write a book and write whatever i want. I can make up scientific theories and false proof them .
 
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The shroud its not legitimate in the scientific cycles. Period. Just as you can try to convince me evolution is not true it is accepted by all of it. You guys had the best priest explaining the big bang way before hawkings but this is just ##$@.
 
Mountie said:
The genre of the Book of Jonah is literary satire. Could there have been a historical prophet Jonah who was swallowed by a whale? Maybe. However, our faith is not dependent on it. The Book of Jonah contains incredibly brilliant theological messages that are absolutely beneficial to our faith. Sometimes, we focus on the historicity of biblical events but lose the important message that is trying to be conveyed.
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mr_silly said:
the facial image on the Shroud has a great congruence with the facial images of Christ on these sixth century gold coins, so much so that the only possible conclusion is that the engravers must have been able to view the Shroud of Turin
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That is not the only possible conclusion. And the Shroud’s existence dating to the time of Christ has not been definitively proven by any means.
 
If I had a nickel for every time someone said “just read this and you’ll see!”, I’d have me a whooooooole lotta nickels…
 
mr_silly said:
Prof. Fanti and Malfi have dated the Shroud’s linen to 35 B.C.
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Using what process?
mr_silly said:
The theory that the Shroud’s 1988 carbon fourteen evidence indicated any kind of a date at all has been debunked.
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No. Disputed and some inserting fanciful suppositions as to how it has been “proven” to be the result of radiation caused by Jesus’ body disappearing into another dimension, but not “debunked”.
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congruences between the Shroud’s facial image and the face of Christ that is on 6th century gold coins
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Congruence doesn’t really mean anything by itself.
 
mr_silly said:
The legitimacy of the Shroud of Turin is a very important subject.
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Why? My faith doesn’t depend on this artifact being what is claimed. My faith doesn’t depend on any relic being what is claimed.
 
Nickos said:
Jesus used parables to get across a message and i absolutely love it. So im asking if this is a similar case
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I see the passage as a type of parable but i wasn’t there and haven’t got the ancient language skills to interpret any possible nuance in the writing.
 
mr_silly said:
Some people just have their minds made up for whatever reason and will not take a dispassionate look at the actual scientific evidence.
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Yes, interesting how that happens. Not looking at real evidence, and buying into poor evidence both. But the real issue is trying to use this particular object as absolute proof of Christianity being factual. A real dispassionate look at all of the evidence fails to show that it is contemporary with the events surrounding the Passion. But that does not disprove any of those events either.
mr_silly said:
May I have a copy of Fanti and Malfi’s book sent to you ?
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Only if you can figure out where and to whom to send it on your own.
 
mr_silly said:
It is a gift to us which was purchased at the cost of great pain and suffering.
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The gift was redemption, not a piece of cloth. The sign was the Resurrection itself, not a piece of cloth. My faith is in Jesus, not a piece of cloth.
 
Surely you’re not against reading and such…
Reading helps one understand the topic under discussion. If you don’t understand the topic you are discussing how can you have a substantial discussion? (wink icon here)
 
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Surely you’re not against reading and such…
Reading helps one understand the topic under discussion. If you don’t understand the topic you are discussing how can you have a substantial discussion? (wink icon here)
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We may not know HOW it happened but it did happened, maybe is an expression used to represent an idea, take Noah’s story, the flood did happened and his family did in fact kept the human race going on, there are some studies on the matter of DNA that shows that we are technically all cosins, becuse after all there was a first man and a first woman and we came from them, i like to think Adam as a 2 meters tall man with very thick skin, black or white.
 
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