JPII Movie on CBS Tonight

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I didn’t see the ABC version, but it sounds as if I chose the right one (CBS) from the previous posters. I saw the Hallmark channel version a couple of months ago and found a lot of deja vu watching the CBS version. A number of the scenes just seemed to be very similar to the verison on the Hallmark channel. Did anyone else sense this?
 
Does anyone have the Hallmark channel one on tape? I haven’t seen it.

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I’m just bummed that I’ll miss the second half (we have Mass this Wed evening…).
 
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kaymart:
Very well done, can not wait till Wed! ABC was good but it can not hold a candle to CBS’s version.
I missed the ABC version and am taping the CBS one. Glad to hear I’m not wasting tapes!
 
mark a:
Not to put a damper on this thread or anything, but did anyone else catch the backwards sign of the cross?
Hi Mark,

I missed the “backward” Sign of the Cross. I’ll be sure to look for it in part two. Just a though, maybe the scene was authentic after all. I know that our Eastern Brothers and Sisters pray the Sign of the Cross this way. Perhaps some Roman Poles also pray it this way. I know we have man Poles and North Americans of Polish ancestry on the CA Forums, a little help here please.
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ABC didn’t spend alot of time and money on making the movie about JPII. I thought it was too speedy going thru the life of JPII in 2 hours, including commercials! Anyone who missed this has nothing to regret. I felt the JPII portrayed by ABC was not like the JPII we all knew. You wouldn’t know exaclty who JPII was if you watch ABC. I guess that’s way it wasn’t screened by the Vatican! They probably thumb their nose at it!

CBS was excellent so far! I bet CBS was confident that their version will be acceptable. They had it screened by the Vatican and Vatican liked it! 👍
 
I so enjoyed the first part of this movie! I felt that it got ‘under the skin’ of what it must have been like for people of faith to live during such a frightening time, and how people made the choices they made in terms of how to fight the Nazis. Later, as it showed our beloved JPII really bring the fight to the communist regime that was in Poland, it highlighted the differences that existed between the harsh realities that *he *faced and the harsh realities later faced by the dedicated Archbishop Romero. I came to understand, a little bit better, why JPII felt so terribly guilty after the murder of Romero - it is as though there was an unwritten law in Poland, that they knew they could only go so far, or that the horrific abuses and murders that were carried out during that time had to be done in secret. Now, if that is true (because I am still frightfully uninformed as to the nature of things during that era - I was born in 1955 and grew up during the Cold War, so I was a child during that time) it gives us some insight as to the differences between the two regimes and how they viewed the Church.

For instance, did anyone notice how - at the confrontation at the midnight Mass - a few of the soldiers made the Sign of the Cross?
 
The CBS version is ALOT better than the ABC version.John Paul II used to always say’Do not be afraid"after everything that he went through and survived those words I take to heart because he was living proof that having faith will get you through the WORST of times…and he seen the soviets defeated-talk about poetic justice.
 
Pleasant surprise to see the great Christopher Lee playing a cardinal.
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kevb:
Pleasant surprise to see the great Christopher Lee playing a cardinal.
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YES! that’s who that was!!! I just couldn’t figure it out…BTW, I loved this airing of JPII’s life far better than ABC feeble attempt…
 
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GordonBOPS:
What were your impressions of the scene of Mass being said in the forest with oars serving as a makeshift cross? I sort of had a reaction like - “the traditionalists won’t like that!” I am more traditionalist leaning myself, but I really didn’t know what to think at the time. I’ve concluded though, that you do what you have to do when your faith is being oppressed by the government!
That’s the way the Boy Scouts do it when they are out camping. It’s kind of a traditional custom and you’ll sometimes see old pictures posted of a priest doing that (pre-VII) to draw a reaction from traditionalists. I did find it interesting that they included a line something about one of the students questioning him concerning this sort of thing being forbidden, and he basically saying that sometimes you have to do what you have to do.
 
Overall, I think that they are doing a very good and respectable job with this film. I like how they started it out with the assasination attempt and then made the rest of the first part basically a flashback of his life passing before him while in surgery. Nice job at connecting it all up very well and providing the opportunity to place things in a context to which people can relate. I really do appreciate them taking so much time on his early life. Something which is so critical to appreciating who he is. That said, I also found what they are doing to be a little disjointed. It seems that they are trying to squeeze a lot of things into the picture, higlights essentially, but this somewhat makes the overall flow of a storyline more difficult as they are basically jumping from vinette to vinette, while trying to piece everything together somehow. As such, there is a certain depth in plot and perhaps character development which I find wanting. Some things, therefore, come off as a bit khitchy. I also wonder of they are not in some ways painting him as overly naive as a young man or, on the other hand, making him out to be too easy of a hero absent very real personal struggles more than what they show. Yes, they touch on difficult times, but it is almost like he just passs over these things and moves onto the next, without any real hard human toil. Somebody tells him, “Get it together,” and he magically does. Perhaps this is the price we have to pay for keeping the story moving. Artistic license. But, all things considered, I’ll definietly take it. The film isn’t exactly the height of good scriptwriting and filmmaking, but it is a well done tribute and sketch biography to one of the most signifigant people of our time.

Speaking of time, I got a chuckle out of his apparent “running late” which they implied was a regular trait of his. “Wotyja Standard Time” he joked, pointing to his watch. True? Interesting, if so, and possibly a worthwhile lesson for us in our exacting culture. I was also impressed by the mention of his “Theology of the Body” in those early moments.
 
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chicago:
That’s the way the Boy Scouts do it when they are out camping. It’s kind of a traditional custom and you’ll sometimes see old pictures posted of a priest doing that (pre-VII) to draw a reaction from traditionalists. I did find it interesting that they included a line something about one of the students questioning him concerning this sort of thing being forbidden, and he basically saying that sometimes you have to do what you have to do.
He did in fact celebrate Mass like that when he was on his kayaking trips with his students. I think he considered these trips pastoral opportunties as well as recreation.

A priest taking a group of young people on a trip would have been considered by the Communist government as an act against the state. Wojtyla would have been in very deep trouble if the authorities had found out.
 
I missed it unfortunately…does anyone happen to know when it will be back on again?
 
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Heather07:
I missed it unfortunately…does anyone happen to know when it will be back on again?
Part Two will be on CBS on Wednesday night, 8pm EST
 
I don’t review what’s scheduled to be on TV, catching a few shows I like or seeing a commercial of something new, and I guess I didn’t happen to run across any commercials of this. I’m sorry I missed it, although I did catch the ABC show. I kind of liked the ABC version, although I admit it wasn’t the deepest piece of motion picture genius out there. 🙂 But it was at least respectful of the man.

Perhaps I went in with fairly jaded expectations, so I wasn’t disappointed with what I got.

I hope they’ll rebroadcast the first part. I’ll try to have the second half taped on Wednesday, as I’ve got 2 other commitments that night.

December is such a busy month!

CARose
 
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kaymart:
Very well done, can not wait till Wed! ABC was good but it can not hold a candle to CBS’s version.
These are my thoughts exactly kaymart. ABC’s version was so sanitized and skipped over many important events in the Holy Father’s life. I almost didn’t watch the CBS version, but am so glad I did!!!
 
You can’t compare the ABC version with the CBS one,it’s like night and day…the CBS one is much better!I’m actually surprised ANYBODY liked the ABC version…I thought it was AWFUL!
 
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alekzander:
You can’t compare the ABC version with the CBS one,it’s like night and day…the CBS one is much better!I’m actually surprised ANYBODY liked the ABC version…I thought it was AWFUL!
I actually thought the ABC version was good…until I saw the CBS version! CBS is excellent by comparison.
 
Bud Stewart:
I missed the “backward” Sign of the Cross. I’ll be sure to look for it in part two. Just a though, maybe the scene was authentic after all.** I know that our Eastern Brothers and Sisters pray the Sign of the Cross this way.** Perhaps some Roman Poles also pray it this way. I know we have man Poles and North Americans of Polish ancestry on the CA Forums, a little help here please.
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Well I’ll be dipped!!!
 
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