Judgemental Protestants

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rcwitness said:
I think this just goes to show how deep the wounds to unity are. And men from both sides of the reformation were to blame. Now, the children born into and through these communities ARE not culpable for never receiving His Eucharist.

It’s like St James said, “Whoever knows what is right to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.”

If one does not understand that it’s the Lord and not merely “His Church”, that calls us to His Catholic Eucharist, then they are not AT ALL culpable. Those who heard Him say this in John 6, heard it directly from Him. Or those who believe every Communion is the same and constitutes obedience to His command, they are not (fully)culpable of this sin.
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Thanks rc, I have changed the wording in your statement above to make it totally understandable for me. What does it do for you?
 
Michael68 said:
A passage in Rev. about scarlet and purple is being attributed to the clergy as wearing the colors of the whore of Babylon. Are we a gang with colors now? Lol
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Do we have any viable ideas of what does constitute the whore etc etc?
 
Wannano said:
Thanks rc, I have changed the wording in your statement above to make it totally understandable for me. What does it do for you?
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Perhaps. But I was specific with the way I said “may or may not” and “fully”

This knowledge is reserved for Christ who knows and judges the heart. And even if one is not fully culpable of establishing this division and departure from Communion (or receiving unworthily, for those who still partake but live opposed to Him), there are still consequences in separation.

John 6 (my flesh and blood) has relationship to the Lord’s Supper. I can’t deny that. But we must keep culpability and awareness/ignorance in mind when trying to discern what it all means.
 
rcwitness said:
Perhaps. But I was specific with the way I said “may or may not” and “fully”

This knowledge is reserved for Christ who knows and judges the heart. And even if one is not fully culpable of establishing this division and departure from Communion (or receiving unworthily, for those who still partake but live opposed to Him), there are still consequences in separation.

John 6 (my flesh and blood) has relationship to the Lord’s Supper. I can’t deny that. But we must keep culpability and awareness/ignorance in mind when trying to discern what it all means.
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I know when Protestants have “communion” they have a solemn, reverent attitude. I have wondered why they dont have it more often.
 
Peter_J said:
FWIW, I have many times considered switching to a Protestant forum, but I don’t because I don’t believe that things would be better there – just turned around, so to speak. (Oddly enough, so far no Protestant I know, either through CAF or otherwise, has attempted to persuade me that there’s a Protestant forum that *would *be better for me to be on. :hmmm:)
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That could very well be true, and I don’t disagree.

The distain isn’t something that I learned until I started going to Mass, so I came here. I came here to read. Read and learn a little more about Catholicism and see if this feeling was something that was only IRL, or if he same feeling is more widespread. A little surprising.

As Christians I thought this could be a good place for respectful discussion, especially as an “outsider” to better learn and understand Catholicism.
 
Michael68 said:
I know when Protestants have “communion” they have a solemn, reverent attitude. I have wondered why they dont have it more often.
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I’ve wondered that too. I have never been a member at a church that didn’t have weekly communion.
 
TC3033 said:
I’ve wondered that too. I have never been a member at a church that didn’t have weekly communion.
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Right. Mainline Protestant denominations do celebrate Communion at least on every Sunday. Non-denom/Evangelical Free and maybe Baptists are once a month typically.

Can you imagine if we only read Scripture once a month!!! :eek:
 
rcwitness said:
If one does not understand that it’s the Lord and not merely “His Church”, that calls us to His Catholic Eucharist, then they are not entirely culpable.
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Wannano said:
Thanks rc, I have changed the wording in your statement above to make it totally understandable for me. What does it do for you?
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rcwitness said:
Perhaps. But I was specific with the way I said “may or may not” and “fully”
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TBH, I’m having trouble understanding either version of your statement. If the person believes that the Catholic Church is His Church, how could he/she not be culpable?
 
TC3033 said:
That could very well be true, and I don’t disagree.

The distain isn’t something that I learned until I started going to Mass, so I came here. I came here to read. Read and learn a little more about Catholicism and see if this feeling was something that was only IRL, or if he same feeling is more widespread.
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Heh. 😊

I’ve known for a while what your local RC parish is like (and regretted, of course, that it is) … but the highlighted was still a bit of a culture shock to me. I’m more accustomed to people saying “Is it this way only on-forum (or on-blog, whichever the case may be), or in the wider world as well?”
 
rcwitness said:
Right. Mainline Protestant denominations do celebrate Communion at least on every Sunday. Non-denom/Evangelical Free and maybe Baptists are once a month typically.

Can you imagine if we only read Scripture once a month!!! :eek:
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😃

A little off-topic, but it strikes me that that still wouldn’t be as bad as a clergyman described in Screwtape Letters:

In order to spare the laity all “difficulties” he has deserted both the lectionary and the appointed psalms and now, without noticing it, revolves endlessly round the little treadmill of his fifteen favourite psalms and twenty favourite lessons.
 
Peter_J said:
TBH, I’m having trouble understanding either version of your statement. If the person believes that the Catholic Church is His Church, how could he/she not be culpable?
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Because Protestantism believes that sometimes the Church declare something which the Lord does not. They may believe it is the Church of God, but only Scripture Speaks for Christ, while the Church is hit and miss. The Church may be right, or may not be right.
 
Peter_J said:
😃

A little off-topic, but it strikes me that that still wouldn’t be as bad as a clergyman described in Screwtape Letters:

In order to spare the laity all “difficulties” he has deserted both the lectionary and the appointed psalms and now, without noticing it, revolves endlessly round the little treadmill of his fifteen favourite psalms and twenty favourite lessons.
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Possibly my favorite book of all time! I may read again… it’s been soon long! I was even Screwtape for a Halloween!
 
rcwitness said:
Right. Mainline Protestant denominations do celebrate Communion at least on every Sunday. Non-denom/Evangelical Free and maybe Baptists are once a month typically.

Can you imagine if we only read Scripture once a month!!! :eek:
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I’m non-denom and find that the once a month is more typical than every week is a little bit of a culture shock to me as well. I had no idea that was even a thing until I was in my mid 20’s.
 
Forums are always a place for stronger opinions than would normally be considered polite in real life. It’s like honestly with an edge. We tend to express ourselves in stronger ways than we really feel because it saves wear and tear on the keyboard. Real feelings are somewhat subdued compared to what we express online. It’s the anonymity.

The best place to understand Catholicism is mass. This is not mass. Only imperfect people with very strong opinions (myself included) that do not necessarily reflect the Church. Most of us would be better off spending more time at mass or in prayer than online. 😃
 
Catholic_farmer said:
Forums are always a place for stronger opinions than would normally be considered polite in real life. It’s like honestly with an edge. We tend to express ourselves in stronger ways than we really feel because it saves wear and tear on the keyboard. Real feelings are somewhat subdued compared to what we express online. It’s the anonymity.

The best place to understand Catholicism is mass. This is not mass. Only imperfect people with very strong opinions (myself included) that do not necessarily reflect the Church. Most of us would be better off spending more time at mass or in prayer than online. 😃
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That’s kind of the deal. I was met with a large amount of distain at the church IRL. I tripped on this place when trying to learn more about it.
 
I think it can be good fellowship when done with respect and charity. It’s a place to ask, answer, read, and learn about others.
 
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