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EasterJoy
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She was plainly invited to discard what she did not find helpful.I’m trying to find a place in the bible where Jesus took someone down who had just opened up to Him. While some posters might think they’re being “truthful” by speaking out in a straightforward manner, the truth is that, if such statements do not come from a place of love or compassion, they are more harmful than helpful. While the “truth” can set many a person free, it is Jesus’ truth, not our version of the truth, that lifts a person and breaks their chains of bondage. So, even well meaning attempts to help others, if not motivated by empthy or compassion, are fruitless.
“Venting” is often misunderstood. Sometimes the person in question just wants “free expression” of their feelings without judgment. This is difficult for many people because most feel they have to “fix” the person, but it is in acknowledging and and hearing the person out where real change and transformation can begin to take place.
While I understand this forum is a place of “open dialogue” and communication, I hope we can continue to discuss our diverse issues without the need to “take others” prisoner.
Jesus Rocks
As for the general topic of “venting” being misunderstood, go back and read what she wrote. She opened both barrels on essentially the whole human race, including her own mother. Even towards those humans she found admirable, she did not express any gratitude. They were only brought into her “vent” as examples with which to put down someone else. Since when is “venting” carte blanche to spew bile on the whole human race? Who does that ever help? Are you truly arguing that this kind of “venting” is freeing, and not itself a bondage? Since when? Excuse me, but I’m not going to apologize for saying that it isn’t the kind of talk that made me think a long heart-to-heart was going to help much.
If venting is so healing and listening to venting without correction is such a fine form of compassion, explain why there is no sacrament or liturgy or advanced spiritual practice in which we catalog the sins of others? I don’t just mean in Christianity, or even in the West. I mean in any religion at all. Why don’t they sit around and vent and compassionately listen to venting at monasteries–Christian or Buddhist, either one!–where they all want to be saints and filled with compassion, but instead take a vow of silence? Why is it that we call the sacrament healing when all we are allowed to do in it is catalog our own sins only? If Jesus thought so much of compassion being extended to the opening up of the “venter”, it seems odd that he’d set things up that way, don’t you think?
Try to find a place in the Bible where Jesus didn’t tell people the hard truth, even when they did not want to hear it: the rich young man, the man who wanted help getting his inheritance, Peter expressing a wish that Jesus not have to go to Jerusalem and be killed, and even Martha, who was after all only asking for some help with the household chores.
Then when you find that, find somewhere that he listened to someone “vent”, or suggested that his disciples do so for each other. You’ll not find that concept in the whole New Testament. Like hitting a punch bag to “get your aggressions out” it is a modern concept, and not one that’s been shown to work very well, either. It’s like a sugar high. It feels good at the time, but in the long run it is detrimental.