Just came back from Tridentine Mass

JRJ26 · Nov 4, 2004

krazykatlady:

I finally made it to a Tridentine Mass also and it happened to be the Solemn High Mass at St. Mary’s in Washington,DC. It was awesome with Gregorian chant, incense, bells and kneeling for Communion at the altar rail. The Mass was very well attended, with many college age kids, young families. The church was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. Many of the women wore veils. After Mass just about everyone knelt down and stayed for private prayer. Too bad this church is six hours from my home(but only an hour by air).

hi! That’s awesome. I’ll be going to the Solemn High Mass next Sunday at St. Mary’s. When did you go to this mass(just wondering, b/c the schedule says it’s offered on the 2nd Sunday of each month, so I’d just like to know if they offer it any other times).
Yeah, when I went(it was a Low Mass on All Saints), it was pretty packed, and there were all types of people. Some women had head coverings, some didn’t. It was a great experience, and I wish it was closer to Georgetown, but it still is accessible(just $2.70 for a round trip on the metro). I definitely want to hear the Gregorian chant, so I’ll definitely be going next Sunday.

smn · Nov 5, 2004

DominvsVobiscvm:

Absolutely, 100% positive. See Father’s post. Again, I’m a former postulant of Chicago’s Cantian Society. Their Masses were so high they burned! I learned so much about the rubrics of the Mass, and I still know so little!

That’s interesting; I was sure that I had heard the opposite. Thanks for setting me straight!

Scott

DominvsVobiscvm · Nov 5, 2004

Tridentiners are a weird bunch, that’s for sure! Te kinds of guys I used to meet at Cantius . . .

(The parishioners, I mean. The priests and brothers were cool, off the chain!)

I like to joke around about how, when you go to a Tridentine parish, it’s always fun, and depressing, to take a look at all the congregants. They almost all have some kind of “tick” about them. They either have some kind of physical or mental deformity, they twitch a certain way, or they have weird looks in their eyes. It’s like going to an orphanage peopled by abused children!

It’s funny, but sad.

Anyone but me notice this?

Then again, look who I’m asking . . .

dumspirospero · Nov 5, 2004

Sorry…all the people at the Parish I attend look normal…actually they are dressed a whole lot better, i.e. no cut offs or tank tops, and they all seem very kind.

DominvsVobiscvm:

Tridentiners are a weird bunch, that’s for sure! Te kinds of guys I used to meet at Cantius . . .

(The parishioners, I mean. The priests and brothers were cool, off the chain!)

I like to joke around about how, when you go to a Tridentine aprish, it’s always fun, and depressing, to take a look at all the congregants. They almost all have some kind of “tick” about them. They either have some kind of physical or mental deformity, they twitch a certain way, or they have weird looks in their eyes. It’s like going to an orphanage peopled by abused children!

It’s funny, but sad.

Anyone but me notice this?

Then again, look who I’m asking . . .

katolik · Nov 5, 2004

Fr. JLT:

All correct thus far from DominusVobiscum (as opposed to Dominic, go frisk 'em) but Solemn Mass also requires an EmCee.

In terms of the vernacular hymns, look into your old hand Missal and you will probably see English renditions of Latin Hymns (unfortunately abysmally translated so they will fit the melody line of the Latin hymn). This is what usually constituted “Vernacular Hymnody.” It’s not like they were singing Go Tell it on the Mountain or something like that. )) There are some exceptions to that, however. For example, “Holy God, We Praise Thy Name” s actually the official English rendering of the Te Deum.

– Fr. L.

Father, I think you mean American Vernacular Hymnody… I have looked at old Polish missals which have about 400-500 pages of all vernacular hymns.[that’s about 700 hymns]

katolik · Nov 5, 2004

DominvsVobiscvm:

Tridentiners are a weird bunch, that’s for sure! Te kinds of guys I used to meet at Cantius . . .

(The parishioners, I mean. The priests and brothers were cool, off the chain!)

I like to joke around about how, when you go to a Tridentine parish, it’s always fun, and depressing, to take a look at all the congregants. They almost all have some kind of “tick” about them. They either have some kind of physical or mental deformity, they twitch a certain way, or they have weird looks in their eyes. It’s like going to an orphanage peopled by abused children!

It’s funny, but sad.

Anyone but me notice this?

Then again, look who I’m asking . . .

Well the people who know more about freemasonry than the priest knows about theology? Or the ones who love to poke at ancient apparitions[like the prophecy of St.Nilus]and tell us that it shall happen now? Or the ones who love the Mass? Or the ones who kiss Jesus’s feet on the crucifix*? Or the ones outside of the choir who sing[what nerve

?] On my part I love to sing…

What do you mean by weird physical appearances? Most of the people look normal, its just some ideas they have…*

IrenkaJMJ · Nov 5, 2004

DominvsVobiscvm:

Tridentiners are a weird bunch, that’s for sure! Te kinds of guys I used to meet at Cantius . . .

(The parishioners, I mean. The priests and brothers were cool, off the chain!)

I like to joke around about how, when you go to a Tridentine parish, it’s always fun, and depressing, to take a look at all the congregants. They almost all have some kind of “tick” about them. They either have some kind of physical or mental deformity, they twitch a certain way, or they have weird looks in their eyes. It’s like going to an orphanage peopled by abused children!

It’s funny, but sad.

Anyone but me notice this?

Then again, look who I’m asking . . .

Is this one particular group you’re talking about or are you being rude to everyone who attends the Tridentine Mass?

krazykatlady · Nov 5, 2004

JRJ26:

hi! That’s awesome. I’ll be going to the Solemn High Mass next Sunday at St. Mary’s. When did you go to this mass(just wondering, b/c the schedule says it’s offered on the 2nd Sunday of each month, so I’d just like to know if they offer it any other times).
Yeah, when I went(it was a Low Mass on All Saints), it was pretty packed, and there were all types of people. Some women had head coverings, some didn’t. It was a great experience, and I wish it was closer to Georgetown, but it still is accessible(just $2.70 for a round trip on the metro). I definitely want to hear the Gregorian chant, so I’ll definitely be going next Sunday.

I went to the Solemn High Mass the second Sunday in October. I think the only time they have Solemn High Mass is the second Sunday of the month, at 5:00 PM. I’m going to try to go next Sunday. Depends if I can work out the details and if I can afford the airline ticket.

krazykatlady · Nov 5, 2004

DominvsVobiscvm:

Tridentiners are a weird bunch, that’s for sure! Te kinds of guys I used to meet at Cantius . . .

(The parishioners, I mean. The priests and brothers were cool, off the chain!)

I like to joke around about how, when you go to a Tridentine parish, it’s always fun, and depressing, to take a look at all the congregants. They almost all have some kind of “tick” about them. They either have some kind of physical or mental deformity, they twitch a certain way, or they have weird looks in their eyes. It’s like going to an orphanage peopled by abused children!

It’s funny, but sad.

Anyone but me notice this?

Then again, look who I’m asking . . .

I don’t know where you go to Tridentine Masses, but at St. Mary’s there was quite a number of very attractive college age kids, and nice looking young families. Besides, I’m sure God loves these dear people you refer to so cruelly. How old are you anyway?

Minas_Ithil · Nov 5, 2004

I would have to say that im rather surprsed with your description of those members of Tridentine Rite paishes. I have been a member of two. One being an SSPX group, and i admit there are some rather strange people that take part in parishes of that variety. I have also been a member of an Ecclesia Dei group run by a Jesuit, which was the complete opposite, no wierdoes at all. I suspect that it is more those parishes that subscribe to slightly more heterodox doctrine that one might find more “wierdoes.”

I tend to meet wierder people at Novus Ordo masses here.

God bless,
John

Anne_Carmel · Nov 6, 2004

Back to the original topic, please. I don’t believe that anything was mentioned in the first post about the oddities of any particular groups at Mass.

DominvsVobiscvm · Nov 6, 2004

My post was meant somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

For my part, I’m 20 years old, and I serve the True–I mean, Tridentine!–Mass down in Miami.

All othorod “Tridentiners” I know have made similar (yet tongue-and-cheek) observations about the more radical amongst us. Just wanted to see if anyone here’s noticed it.

Just thought I’d clarigy.

Now, back to the original topic . . .

MaggieSCDJ · Nov 6, 2004

Hello,

I am in Massachusetts. Does anyone know where in MA the Tridentine Mass is offered?

Thanks.

jimmy · Nov 6, 2004

MaggieSCDJ:

Hello,

I am in Massachusetts. Does anyone know where in MA the Tridentine Mass is offered?

Thanks.

I don’t know if this is a complete list. H means holy Day, W means weekly mass, and D means Daily mass.

ecclesiadei.org/region01.htm

These are all approved by the church.

MaggieSCDJ · Nov 7, 2004

Thanks!!

Maggie

Nettie · Nov 10, 2004

Ella said:
“The Priest does not have his back to the congregation to exclude them, but rather because he leads the people in offering the sacrifice of the Mass. He faces the same direction as the people: towards God, truly present on the altar and in the tabernacle and depicted on the crucifix.”

I understand this; however, the fact remains that their backs are to the congregation, and the congregation does not say the responses or even hear the Eucharistic prayer. I believe the Novus Ordo changed this for the same reasons I myself experienced. I love the Latin…

Well, actually the priest is not facing the altar/tabernacle, but is facing liturgical East, along with the people. This is because, according to Scripture, Jesus will return coming “from the East”, and that is the direction we and the priest face, i.e., we are all looking for Jesus’ return. So, we should not be offended, or think of the priest as “with his back to the people” than we should be offended that the person in the pew in front of us has his back to us. We are all facing the same way, awaiting Christ’s return.

FrmrTrad · Dec 1, 2004

Fr. JLT:

I even had people say to me, “Finally, a VALID Mass.” I barred them from Holy Communion.

Did they realize the seriousness of their error and repent?

misericordie · Dec 1, 2004

Fr. JLT:

Unfortunate, but true. The Tridentine Mass seems to attract Kooks, heretics and lunatics. However, there is a very good argument that the Novus Ordo does as well, but they are more blended in by the sheer volume of attendees.

In my case, when we began the 1962 Mass . . . hmmm . … want to say about 8 years ago . . . it was FULL of Feeny-ites, Baysiders, etc etc. Fortuantely,t hrough preaching, we got the heretics out. It’s unfortuante but true that many of those who claim to be Orthodox are heretics to the Nth degree. I even had people say to me, “Finally, a VALID Mass.” I barred them from Holy Communion.

But again, they are everywhere and they are Legion, but blend in more by the simple law of “volume versus concentration.”

– Fr. L.

Fr. the state of Mass?? I thought it was a liberal state ways around.
I do think you went overboard by refusing communion: was that person/persons EXCOMMUNICATED, or did YOUR Bishop decree that? Or did you personally take your OWN personal agenda?? If I were the person, I would write a respectful and nice letter to your Bishop AND TO ROME: the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. I would actually consult a friend- priest of mine who is a doctor in canon law and works for a MAJOR Archdiocese in the USA, if we would be able to start a CANONICAL process against the priest who denied me communion.
Well, but, that’s ME: And as regards lunatics, that we have much of already running some very liberal parishes, and who are ordained. smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_17_3.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_17_7.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_28_1.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_9_1.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_116.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_122.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_120.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_118.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_5_138.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1055.gif

RSiscoe · Dec 3, 2004

DominosVobisum:

I 'm a former postulant of Chicago’s Cantian Society. Their Masses were so high they burned!

St. John Cantius is a wonderful church. We used to drive up there from Kentucky from the first Fridays and first Saturdays devotions.

*If anyone lives in the Chicago area, you ought to attend the Latin Mass at St. John Cantius. *

RSiscoe · Dec 3, 2004

misericordie:

Fr. the state of Mass?? I thought it was a liberal state ways around.
I do think you went overboard by refusing communion: was that person/persons EXCOMMUNICATED, or did YOUR Bishop decree that? Or did you personally take your OWN personal agenda?? If I were the person, I would write a respectful and nice letter to your Bishop AND TO ROME: the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. I would actually consult a friend- priest of mine who is a doctor in canon law and works for a MAJOR Archdiocese in the USA, if we would be able to start a CANONICAL process against the priest who denied me communion.
Well, but, that’s ME: And as regards lunatics, that we have much of already running some very liberal parishes, and who are ordained. smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_17_3.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_17_7.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_28_1.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_9_1.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_116.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_122.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_120.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_118.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_5_138.gif smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1055.gif

For a minute there I thought I was viewing a video of the Papal Mass at “world youth day 2004”

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