Just Say No To C-Sections!

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Christian4life:
However, you are SERIOUSLY wrong when you say the decision should be left up to the doctor!!!
And just precisely WHO is more qualified to make that decision? You? What are your credentials? If you have chosen a doctor you can’t/don’t/won’t trust, the error is yours. It is a medical decision, and there is nobody more qualified than your physician to give you adequate advice.
 
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rayne89:
I had a c-section and was out of the hospital in 2 days. The only pain med I took was regular tylonal and I cared for and nurtured my baby just fine thank you very much.
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After 27 hours of Pit induced (read, hard from the beginning) labor with my older daughter, I was practically begging for a C with my second. When the nurse was dropping my leg as I tried to push, walking away, all my mind said was that my baby’s heartrate was dropping (not true, she was taking notes). I got enough breath to tell my hubby to get me a C-Section now. This was after 11 hours of labor and another hour and a half of pushing, with my baby not moving at all.

I had PIH with both children. If I had been blessed with another pregnancy, I would schedule a C-Section.
 
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Christian4life:
And when 1 in 4 birthing women are told they need them, I don’t know how anyone can think that is anything other than a flat out lie.
Please cite the source of your statistics. I hope you’re using medical literature and not newspaper clippings. Precisely where is this great C-section conspiracy coming from? Again, please give us citations of sources. I don’t care to be told what “they” say. I want to know who “they” is and where they said it, and where it was published. I’m talking about evidence based medicine.
I hate injustice, and I hate it when people are being lied to. Also, it makes me mad because I am Pro-life and people always say how dangerous giving birth is and never actually look at WHY it is so dangerous. We’d like to think of ourselves as a DEVELOPED country, and yet even 3rd world Cuba has safer maternity rates than us! That just is NOT fair.
Again, sources, please. What has convinced you that all OB docs are lying perpetrators of a conspiracy to make everybody get un-needed C-sections? You’re making some very serious accusations and I hope they’re made out of facts and not anger or fanaticism.
When women PLAN unecessary c-sections (yes, it is legal, and they are doing it, because somehow they think it’s safer and less painful, all LIES) and end up dying or having stillborns, then I have a huge problem with that.
Sources for your knowledge that this is “all LIES” if you please.

From what you go on to tell of your own experience, it sounds as if things that happened to you that you didn’t want to happen have convinced you all people involved in OB care are out to force women to have unnecessary sections. It just isn’t so. I can’t comment on the validity or invalidity of what happened in your specific case, because I don’t have all the details. But it sounds as if you, as a layperson, have a serious problem trusting medical professionals. Healthy skepticism is just that - healthy.

But it’s a dangerous game when and if you start substituting your own medical judgement, based on internet or similar “research”, for that of people who do actually have the training and experience. If you don’t trust your phsycian, find one you can trust, and then act like you trust him/her. But until and unless you’ve had the same training and experience, your medical judgement (note I did not say your rights - I said your medical judgement) is inferior to that of the trained physician.
 
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leaner:
As for the “too small” thing, that just doesn’t make sense to me – why would this perfect God create in me a life only to kill one or both of us because he created me “wrong” for birthing??? What about all the itsy bitsy aisan women (not a slight, but aisan women tend to be smaller in general) who squat and give birth to normal babies? And there are COUNTLESS stories of women who have had a first c-section because she was “too small” to deliver her 7lb baby – guess what, they go on to a second vaginal birth and deliver a 9lb baby!

Think smart, do your research, pray for guidance and demand to be treated as a thinking adult, not as a “patient who’s taking up too much space in l&d”
The “too small ‘thing’”??? You think that doesn’t happen? Why would GOD do this? Itsy bitsy Asian women have itsy bitsy Asian fetuses. It’s a matter of proportion. God doesn’t sit there and intervene in every aspect of the genetics that make a woman’s pelvis suitable or unsuitable for childbirth. It is an absolute FACT (medical fact) that some women have bone structures too small for the safe felivery of the fetus that is within their uterus. It doesn’t matter about what happened with the first baby or the thirteenth baby. The ONLY thing that matters regarding that decision at that time is the relationship of the size of THAT fetus to the structure of the pelvic girdle at THAT time. And that relationship can change over time. So a vaginally delivered subsequent baby does NOT necessarily mean that, “Oh well, she should have or could have had the first baby vaginally.”
 
Precisely where is this great C-section conspiracy coming from? Again, please give us citations of sources
The simple fact that our country has over 25% csections gives the 1 in four. that isn’t rocket science. and obviously 1 out of 4 women don’t need them. for more see my first post on this matter i think it was #91
 
And just precisely WHO is more qualified to make that decision? You? What are your credentials? If you have chosen a doctor you can’t/don’t/won’t trust, the error is yours. It is a medical decision, and there is nobody more qualified than your physician to give you adequate advice.
This is where common sense comes in. It is important to pick a doctor that you can trust won’t tell you you need a csection for bogus reasons. If more people did what my husband and I did , extensive education, relaxation practice for 3 months, and labor rehearsals, and ate proper nutrition, and didn’t go to the hospital too early they wouldn’t even be in the position.

Here is a recent example of why you can’t trust most doctors:
a friend had a csection for her first delivery-reason ‘times up’ which is a bogus reason. Her second birth was a natural VBAC with the same practice. Third delivery planned csection for no reason other than the same practice she’s been with the whole time doen’t do VBACs anymore. Why? Malpractice Insurance and Lawsuits.
 
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renee1258:
C-section aren’t bad things, but a c-section shouldn’t be planned base solely on the woman’s want to avoid a vaginal birth. You really can’t plan birth, the unexpected happens. I almost gave birth in the elevator going up to the labor room. I am planning a home birth, but also I am speaking closely with a doctor in case I have to change plans.
I think this is a good point and probably the point Christian4life was trying to get across. I read an article last month, I think in American Baby, about how the number of elective c-sections is rapidly increasing. I think people forget that c-sections are major surgery. BUT, THEY SAVE A LOT OF LIVES. They shouldn’t be used just so you don’t miss your nail appointment or so you can pick you baby’s birthday. Although, mine is due early January, and it would be nice to have that 2005 tax deduction. Hmmm…:rolleyes:
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turboEDvo:
No C-sections = No me. My head was just too darn big! So, I must say, my prospects look rather grim if my mother had decided not to have a c-section.

Eamon
Eamon, this made me laugh. I’m almost 6 weeks pregnant and a little scared…my husband’s head is HUGE!! I’m not kidding! It’s like a basketball! (sorry Steve :o ). I just hope junior doesn’t have a head like daddy. 😉
 
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Christian4life:
What they don’t tell you about c-sections can kill you. It is NOT safer than natural births, it’s 4 times more deadly! Your recovery time will be longer, your risks of complications will be worse, and chances are YOU DIDN’T EVEN NEED IT.

Yep, they’ve fooled us all, even me. What they don’t tell you is, if something goes wrong while you are in labor, you CAN sue them for NOT giving you a cesarean. However, you CAN NOT sue them for giving you a c-section. Because when you get one, they make you sign paperwork saying that “since it’s such a dangerous procedure” they can’t be held responsible for what happens to you.

A whopping 1 in 4 births are c-sections here in America! Now that is just rediculous. Some of them happen for reasons that are NOT necessary. Like, the baby is in the wrong position - Lie on your side and she may turn. Labor is taking too long - take a walk! Get a good nurse-midwife and forget the hospital. Your chances of dying, having your baby die, or getting infections is LESS at home!!! Look it up women, and don’t be another c-section statistic!!!
While your warning seems well-intentioned, I have to say that unless something phenomenal is discovered about my bone structure, I’m still going to have a C-section when I deliver in four months. Why? Because my firstborn almost died because the doctor refused a C-section. She couldn’t fit through the birth canal (at only seven pounds) and had to be pulled with forceps. She lost a lot of oxygen and circulation while I was attempting to push her out for an hour and a half, and to this day she has brain damage and a learning delay.

C-sections may be riskier in general (so is any operation), but for the life of my child, that’s what I’m doing.
 
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Servant1:
And just precisely WHO is more qualified to make that decision? … It is a medical decision, and there is nobody more qualified than your physician to give you adequate advice.
This is what I do not understand. Why are some giving medical advice and encouraging distrust in those trained in the field? I am afraid it will cause unnecessary anxiety to those approaching C-sections. I would encourage people not to bite at every hyped-up article you see in a magazine and put even less faith in anecdotal evidence offered by friends and relatives (or strangeres).

If you have reason to doubt, seek a second opinion. Then base decisions on informed professinal advice.
 
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