Justified by Faith Alone cf. James 2:24

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No. But when you interpret scripture using scripture (which is a far better source wouldn’t you agree) we know God will forgive the backslider. I John 1:9, Hebrews 7:25, Luke 15, Hosea 14:4, and many other passages.
The backslider has to “slide forward” and repent. The father didn’t welcome the prodigal son into his home until he saw him come back
Of course all the Bible matters. But does the Nazarite vow have an impact on our Christian life today. No. Just like what God told Ezekiel doesn’t impact our walk with Christ since we are now under Grace and not the Law.
So the Commandments don’t impact our lives today because they are of the Old Law? ALL Scripture is inspired by God, BOTH New AND Old Testaments. Paul could very well say in Romans that we are under Grace, and quote the OT Scripture “Do not muzzle the ox.” There’s a distinction between ceremonial and moral. We don’t have to circumcise our kids or eat pork, but we still can’t kill, steal, or commit adultery.
Then one was never a Christian to begin.
Any Biblical support for that?
And do you believe you can lose your sonship, gain in back again, lose it again, gain it back again, etc…?
I can lose my sonship if I follow Balaam’s error or take part in Korah’s rebellion.
 
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will…(Eph 1:4,5)

And I am certain that God, who began the good work within you, will continue his work until it is finally finished on the day when Christ Jesus returns. (Phil 1:6)

And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. (Rom 8:30)

So you can see that when God chose us, He did it before Jesus created the world, He will continue the good work He started in us, and we will eventually be glorified. These are truths of the destiny of the authentic born-again Christian. Proof enough? 😉
And the Bible is pretty clear that God preserves those who walk His way. A person can be drawn to God one second and leave Him the next.

In 1 Corinthians 9:24-27, Paul says:
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for man imperishable crown. Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

And in Hebrews 10:23-31, Paul says:
Let us hold fast to the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who has promised is faithful. And let us consider how to provoke one another to love and good deeds, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
For if we willfully persist in sin after having received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has violated the law of Moses dies without mercy “on the testimony of two or three witnesses.” How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by those who have spurned the Son of God, profaned the blood of the covenant by which they were sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace? For we know the one who said, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

God is willing to give the Holy Spirit to him who asks. Pray to Him that you might receive the Spirit and thus gain the grace of final perseverance.
 
And the Bible is pretty clear that God preserves those who walk His way. A person can be drawn to God one second and leave Him the next.

In 1 Corinthians 9:24-27, Paul says:
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for man imperishable crown. Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

And in Hebrews 10:23-31, Paul says:
Let us hold fast to the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who has promised is faithful.
And let us consider how to provoke one another to love and good deeds, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
For if we willfully persist in sin after having received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has violated the law of Moses dies without mercy “on the testimony of two or three witnesses.” How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by those who have spurned the Son of God, profaned the blood of the covenant by which they were sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace? For we know the one who said, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

God is willing to give the Holy Spirit to him who asks. Pray to Him that you might receive the Spirit and thus gain the grace of final perseverance.
I like to imagine Paul had what God told Ezekiel in mind when he wrote Hebrews 10:23-31.

Ezekiel 18

**But if the wicked turn away from all their sins that they have committed and keep all my statutes and do what is lawful and right, they shall surely live; they shall not die. None of the transgressions that they have committed shall be remembered against them; for the righteousness that they have done they shall live. ** Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that they should turn from their ways and live? But when the righteous turn away from their righteousness and commit iniquity and do the same abominable things that the wicked do, shall they live? None of the righteous deeds that they have done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which they are guilty and the sin they have committed, they shall die. Yet you say, “The way of the Lord is unfair.” Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way unfair? Is it not your ways that are unfair? When the righteous turn away from their righteousness and commit iniquity, they shall die for it; for the iniquity that they have committed, they shall die. Again, when the wicked turn away from the wickedness they have committed and do what is lawful and right, they shall save their life. Because they considered and turned away from all the transgressions that they had committed, they shall surely live; they shall not die. Yet the house of Israel says, “The way of the Lord is unfair.” O house of Israel, are my ways unfair? Is it not your ways that are unfair?

So what God says in Ezekiel 10 is exactly what He’s saying through Paul in Romans 11 and Hebrews 10: God grafts on those who repent and turn to Him in faith, but He cuts off those who stray from His path and follow the error of the lawless.
 
The backslider has to “slide forward” and repent. The father didn’t welcome the prodigal son into his home until he saw him come back

So the Commandments don’t impact our lives today because they are of the Old Law? ALL Scripture is inspired by God, BOTH New AND Old Testaments. Paul could very well say in Romans that we are under Grace, and quote the OT Scripture “Do not muzzle the ox.” There’s a distinction between ceremonial and moral. We don’t have to circumcise our kids or eat pork, but we still can’t kill, steal, or commit adultery.
Agreed. I’ve never said we aren’t supposed to obey the 10 (well 9) Commandments. All along, I have said what we do matters in the Kingdom of God.
Any Biblical support for that?
See post #727
I can lose my sonship if I follow Balaam’s error or take part in Korah’s rebellion.
Please answer my question fully. Can you go in and out and in of sonship? Let me be more specific. Can you pass from death to life to death to life? Are you sealed with the Holy Spirit and then unsealed, and then sealed again? Does God adopt us then unadopt us, then adopt us again? Is God in Heaven changing our status as we live our lives?

Your assertion regarding the Hebrews 10:26 would mean that Jesus was wrong about the one and only unforgivable sin. I think you would agree that God doesn’t contradict Himself. But all of sudden, a Christians willful sins become unforgivable. If that’s the case, then Hebrews 10:26 now contracts Jesus in Matthew 12:31,32.

I do admit that Hebrew 10 is a difficult passage. Sound interpretation in these difficult situation is to use clear simple passages to help interpret more difficult verses like Heb.10:26.
 
I like to imagine Paul had what God told Ezekiel in mind when he wrote Hebrews 10:23-31.

Ezekiel 18

**But if the wicked turn away from all their sins that they have committed and keep all my statutes and do what is lawful and right, they shall surely live; they shall not die. None of the transgressions that they have committed shall be remembered against them; for the righteousness that they have done they shall live. ** Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that they should turn from their ways and live? But when the righteous turn away from their righteousness and commit iniquity and do the same abominable things that the wicked do, shall they live? None of the righteous deeds that they have done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which they are guilty and the sin they have committed, they shall die. Yet you say, “The way of the Lord is unfair.” Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way unfair? Is it not your ways that are unfair? When the righteous turn away from their righteousness and commit iniquity, they shall die for it; for the iniquity that they have committed, they shall die. Again, when the wicked turn away from the wickedness they have committed and do what is lawful and right, they shall save their life. Because they considered and turned away from all the transgressions that they had committed, they shall surely live; they shall not die. Yet the house of Israel says, “The way of the Lord is unfair.” O house of Israel, are my ways unfair? Is it not your ways that are unfair?

So what God says in Ezekiel 10 is exactly what He’s saying through Paul in Romans 11 and Hebrews 10: God grafts on those who repent and turn to Him in faith, but He cuts off those who stray from His path and follow the error of the lawless.
Just one clarification: Romans 11 is focused on Israel’s rejection of Jesus and how we are to treat them. A Christian understands the Jews are God’s chosen people and we treat them with respect and honor for that. The end of the chapter is a prophesy on how Israel with turn to Jesus in the end. That is the gist of Romans 11.

Ezekiel - under the Law.
Romans - covered by Grace.

See post #727. An authentic child of God would not turn to evil. Evil and disobedience are two different things. And the “path” you mention is what? Not performance but faith.
 
And the Bible is pretty clear that God preserves those who walk His way. A person can be drawn to God one second and leave Him the next.

In 1 Corinthians 9:24-27, Paul says:
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for man imperishable crown. Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
Here, Paul is writing about the crowns/rewards we will receive at the White Throne judgement. In the end, we throw these crowns at the feet of Jesus. That will be a glorious day, right!!! 🙂

What is Paul’s worry regarding disqualification? The clue is this: “when I have preached to others”. Not loss of salvation but of creditably and service.
 
Just one clarification: Romans 11 is focused on Israel’s rejection of Jesus and how we are to treat them. A Christian understands the Jews are God’s chosen people and we treat them with respect and honor for that. The end of the chapter is a prophesy on how Israel with turn to Jesus in the end. That is the gist of Romans 11.

Ezekiel - under the Law.
Romans - covered by Grace.

See post #727. An authentic child of God would not turn to evil. Evil and disobedience are two different things. And the “path” you mention is what? Not performance but faith.
It is totally irrelevant whether God speaks under the Law or under grace. God is UNCHANGING. Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So if a righteous man turns from good to evil, God’s still gonna forget his righteous deeds. We MUST continue in His kindness.
 
This horse ain’t movin’ its dead !

Can we boil the situation down to the Catholic states that works are part of justification, the Protestant states that works are a result of justification, hence works are important in both equations?

We all would say amen to “Saved by grace, through faith for good works” I presume?
 
Please answer my question fully. Can you go in and out and in of sonship? Let me be more specific. Can you pass from death to life to death to life? Are you sealed with the Holy Spirit and then unsealed, and then sealed again? Does God adopt us then unadopt us, then adopt us again? Is God in Heaven changing our status as we live our lives?
BUT… I have to chime in on this. I don’t think you can lose sonship. Did Adam? Is original sin the absence of sonship? I’m not totally clear on this as justification transfers up from children of wrath to children of God. I think you can can be a “fallen son”.

Now under Catholic theology you can move in and out of grace which is a foreign concept to Protestants. We participate in the sacrament of penance to restore lost justification/righteousness/grace. An earlier poster said it best, Protestant theology is binary (saved/not saved). Catholic theology is not so delineated, hence we will probably hit 1,000 posts in this discussion when we probably all agree that faith without works is dead, that’s apparently not good enough, we have to argue why its so.
 
Here, Paul is writing about the crowns/rewards we will receive at the White Throne judgement. In the end, we throw these crowns at the feet of Jesus. That will be a glorious day, right!!! 🙂

What is Paul’s worry regarding disqualification? The clue is this: “when I have preached to others”. Not loss of salvation but of creditably and service.
Any interpretation must have proof in history. Paul’s saying “If I don’t practice what I preach, I can’t eat of the tree of life.”
 
Agreed. I’ve never said we aren’t supposed to obey the 10 (well 9) Commandments. All along, I have said what we do matters in the Kingdom of God.

See post #727

Please answer my question fully. Can you go in and out and in of sonship? Let me be more specific. Can you pass from death to life to death to life? Are you sealed with the Holy Spirit and then unsealed, and then sealed again? Does God adopt us then unadopt us, then adopt us again? Is God in Heaven changing our status as we live our lives?

Your assertion regarding the Hebrews 10:26 would mean that Jesus was wrong about the one and only unforgivable sin. I think you would agree that God doesn’t contradict Himself. But all of sudden, a Christians willful sins become unforgivable. If that’s the case, then Hebrews 10:26 now contracts Jesus in Matthew 12:31,32.

I do admit that Hebrew 10 is a difficult passage. Sound interpretation in these difficult situation is to use clear simple passages to help interpret more difficult verses like Heb.10:26.
If you don’t repent you have sinned against the Spirit. If you fall into despair you have sinned against the Spirit. If you resist God you have sinned against the Spirit.
 
I would like to chime in with this thought, In the Gospel jesus told a parable about the sower and the seeds falling in rocks thorns good dirt etc. In explaining it to the Apostles Jesus said that some heard the Word and responded but fell away, some were choked after hearing the Word etc. but some heard the Word and adhered to it.
it would seem to me that those who hear but somehow fall away with help can come back. The sower could very well remove the rocks, thorns etc. so that the seeds could grow.. some might be hard to get at which would mean that those seeds could not be saved. So too with us some will be saved with God's help while other will refuse. The world is full of illusions and distractions that can keep one from walking in the way of God, but also like the Progical Son returns to the Father. Since none of us is perfect and anyone of us can fall into sin, we can still be forgiven when we turn back to God. Just look at Adam and Eve, they sinned but God forgave them. Even cain who murdered his brother was forgiven So too David who sinned. To be forgiven we must repent; repent so to me to be a verb so its a action word meaning we must do something to be forgiven. faith alone i think does not work by itself one have need to do something more than just have faith. otherwise how can God justify us?
 
If you don’t repent you have sinned against the Spirit. If you fall into despair you have sinned against the Spirit. If you resist God you have sinned against the Spirit.
If you lie and don’t repent of it for a couple of days, you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit. You are a Christian who has to deal with your sin.

Every sin is against God and thus against Jesus as well as the Spirit. Sin against the Spirit is not blasphemy. The sin Jesus spoke of is to deny Him as Savior which as long as that is maintained can never be forgiven. Here the Pharisees were accusing Jesus of being in league with satan. They were accusing the Holy Spirit’s work of being that of satan’s. That is blasphemy.
 
If you lie and don’t repent of it for a couple of days, you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit. You are a Christian who has to deal with your sin.

Every sin is against God and thus against Jesus as well as the Spirit. Sin against the Spirit is not blasphemy. The sin Jesus spoke of is to deny Him as Savior which as long as that is maintained can never be forgiven. Here the Pharisees were accusing Jesus of being in league with satan. They were accusing the Holy Spirit’s work of being that of satan’s. That is blasphemy.
Despair is also a sin against the Spirit.
 
**It’s been said over and over: God doesn’t predestine ANYONE to Hell.

A person who is baptized can fall away.**

Read this link.
ewtn.com/library/answers/tulip.htm

If one is talking about predestination to final salvation, then a predestined person will stay with God, but this does not mean the predestined are the only ones who experience initial salvation. Some might genuinely come to God (because they were predestined to initial salvation) and then genuinely leave (because they were not predestined to final salvation). [39] Either way, predestination to initial salvation does not entail predestination to final salvation. [40] There is no reason why a person cannot be predestined to “believe for a while” but “in time of temptation fall away” (Luke 8:13). [41]
**God bless James and every readers of the CAF.

You said James:
It’s been said over and over: God doesn’t predestine ANYONE to Hell.**

Let’s see what the Catholic Church has to say about it:

**The Catholic Church affirms predestination as a *DE FIDE *Dogma (the highest level of binding theological certainty).

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA PREDESTINATION **

God’s unerring foreknowledge and foreordaining is designated in the Bible by the beautiful

figure of the “Book of Life” (liber vitæ, to biblion tes zoes). This book of life is a list which

contains the names of ALL THE ELECT and admits NEITHER ADDITIONS NO ERASURES.

Considering that not all men reach their supernatural end in heaven, but that many are eternally lost through their own fault, there MUST EXIST a twofold predestination:

(a) one to heaven …

(b) one to the pains of hell …

However, according to present usages to which we shall adhere in the course of the article, it is better to call the latter decree the Divine “reprobation”, so that the term predestination is reserved for the Divine decree of the happiness of the elect.

The COUNTERPART of the predestination of the good is the reprobation of the wicked.

This plan of Divine reprobation may be conceived either as absolute and unconditional or conditional.

The conceptual difference between the two kinds of reprobation lies in this:


(a) **NEGATIVE REPROBATION **merely implies the absolute will not to grant the bliss of heaven, though not positively predestined to hell, yet they are absolutely predestined not to go to heaven (cf. above, I, B).

(b) **POSITIVE REPROBATION **means the absolute will to condemn to hell. End quote. Emphasis added.

As you see James, the catholic Church very much teach predestination to hell, only call it “Decree the Divine reprobation", which means; negative predestination to hell.

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**About the theory of the “Predestination to Grace.”

Did you ever considered James what is in reality, Predestination to Grace is?**

Predestination to Grace is a positive predestination, the destination of the predestined is hell, I’m sure James you know that.

Would you James consider,
God is a just God if He would predestined you to grace with zero possibility that you could ever die in the state of grace and as the result, you are practically predestined to hell?

In my opinion: It makes no difference from which angle we look at it; “Predestination to Grace” is a positive predestination, the destination of the predestination is hell.

When I read first time; A Tiptoe Through TULIP By James Akin I loved the article, since then I probably read it 10 times and I still love it.

I also believe James Akin is one of the best apologist in our time.

I believe everything James written in his article except: “Predestination to Grace,” and** I still don’t believe it.** – If you James you prove it to me it is correct, I promise I will believe it.

When I read “Predestination to Grace” at the first time,
at that time I had no theological knowledge at all, even without any theological knowledge in Predestination, Salvation,** I said to myself:** wait a minute, this predestination is a positive predestination, and the destination of the predestined is hell.

**This is NOT the God I believe in, **positively predestine a group of people to grace and mercilessly denies the possibility from them that they could EVER die in the state of grace and all must end up in hell. – In reality, they are predestined to hell and call it “Predestination to Grace.”

Now I know Catholic teachings on Predestination and Salvation and the related THEOLOGICAL FATCS according to Catholic teachings.

A positive “Predestination to Grace in reality is (Predestination to Hell)” it is totally contradict with the JUSTICE and the MERCY of God and with the related THEOLOGICAL FACTS.

There are only two groups of people in Catholic theology; God’s chosen sons and daughters/elect who are all Predestined to Heaven, they CAN NOT lose their salvation and the reprobates who are all Predestined to Hell and they can never reach heaven. – DE FIDE Dogma.

As there is NO third group, which one of the above groups the “Predestined to Grace” belong to?

The phrase “Predestination to Grace” suggest, they belong to the elect, but as they all must end up in hell, they belong to the reprobates.

THEOLOGICAL FACTS


If they belong to the elect, they cannot end up in hell!!! – Theological facts.

If they belong to the reprobates, they CAN NOT reach heaven, they CAN NOT have a valid baptism and they cannot be in the state of grace even one second in their entire life!!! – Theological facts, DE FIDE Dogma.

In my opinion; the members of the so called “Predestination to Grace” are members of the predestined to hell from all eternity.

The reprobates for their vehement rejection of God and His grace, they predestined themselves to hell from all eternity and their names taken out from the Book of Life from all eternity.

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The theory of the so called “Predestination to Grace” stands or falls on the related THEOLOGICAL FACTS.

The following questions based on the related theological facts of salvation and predestination.

By answering the following questions in HARMONY WITH THE RELATED THEOLOGICAL FACTS you have a chance James to prove to me/us reprobates can go up to heaven, they can be built into God’s Holy Temple, they can sitting together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus as the NECESSITY and the RESULTS that they would have a valid baptism and they are initially justified?

**QUESTIONS FOR YOU JAMES TO ANSWER **
  1. Can a reprobate go up to heaven, can he have been built into God’s Holy Temple, can he sitting together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus as the NECESSITY and the RESULTS that he would have a valid baptism and initially justified?
  2. If you believe James, a reprobate could have valid baptism and initial justification without God taken them up to heaven, please explain it to us how it is possible without violating the related theological facts.
  3. Can the reprobates have life as their names taken out from the Book of Life from all eternity?
  4. Can be a baptism a valid baptism, who would die one second after his baptism and would go instantly to hell?
5.** If a reprobate can be validly baptized and initially justified and as the result being in the state of grace: **
How God make sure a reprobate could never die in the state of grace? – Very important question!!!

So, James, What is your theory, what is the reason that not even one reprobate ever die in the state of grace in all Christian history?

I have my theory, because not even one reprobate ever is in the state of grace even one second in all Christian history.

**DISCLAIMER

IF ANYONE ABLE TO PROVE TO ME:**
A reprobate can go up to heaven, he can be built into God’s Holy Temple, he can sitting together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus as the NECESSITY and the RESULTS that he would have a valid baptism and initially justified, then I give up my above theory and I believe, a reprobate can be saved and can be in the state of grace.

God bless James and every readers of the CAF.

Latin Right
 
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The theory of the so called “Predestination to Grace” stands or falls on the related THEOLOGICAL FACTS.

The following questions based on the related theological facts of salvation and predestination.

By answering the following questions in HARMONY WITH THE RELATED THEOLOGICAL FACTS you have a chance James to prove to me/us reprobates can go up to heaven, they can be built into God’s Holy Temple, they can sitting together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus as the NECESSITY and the RESULTS that they would have a valid baptism and they are initially justified?

**QUESTIONS FOR YOU JAMES TO ANSWER **
  1. Can a reprobate go up to heaven, can he have been built into God’s Holy Temple, can he sitting together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus as the NECESSITY and the RESULTS that he would have a valid baptism and initially justified?
  2. If you believe James, a reprobate could have valid baptism and initial justification without God taken them up to heaven, please explain it to us how it is possible without violating the related theological facts.
  3. Can the reprobates have life as their names taken out from the Book of Life from all eternity?
  4. Can be a baptism a valid baptism, who would die one second after his baptism and would go instantly to hell?
5.** If a reprobate can be validly baptized and initially justified and as the result being in the state of grace: **
How God make sure a reprobate could never die in the state of grace? – Very important question!!!

So, James, What is your theory, what is the reason that not even one reprobate ever die in the state of grace in all Christian history?

I have my theory, because not even one reprobate ever is in the state of grace even one second in all Christian history.

**DISCLAIMER

IF ANYONE ABLE TO PROVE TO ME:**
A reprobate can go up to heaven, he can be built into God’s Holy Temple, he can sitting together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus as the NECESSITY and the RESULTS that he would have a valid baptism and initially justified, then I give up my above theory and I believe, a reprobate can be saved and can be in the state of grace.

God bless James and every readers of the CAF.

Latin Right
You’re not speaking facts. You’re speaking Calvinism.
 
Would you James consider, God is a just God if He would predestined you to grace with zero possibility that you could ever die in the state of grace and as the result, you are practically predestined to hell?
You got no business asking that question. You are NOT my Creator.:mad:
 
You’re not speaking facts.
**God bless James and every readers of the CAF.

You said James:
You’re not speaking facts. I show you James I speaking facts:

The Catholic Church affirms predestination as a *DE FIDE *Dogma (the highest level of binding theological certainty).

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA

THE CATHOLIC DOGMA. – The predestination of the elect.**

Consequently, the whole future membership of heaven, down to its minutest details, has

been IRREVOCABLY FIXED FROM ALL ETERNITY. Nor could it be otherwise. For if it

were possible that a predestined individual should after all be CAST INTO HELL or that

one not predestined should in the end REACH HEAVEN, then God would have been

MISTAKEN in his foreknowledge of future events; He would NO LONGER be omniscient.

God’s unerring foreknowledge and foreordaining is designated in the Bible by the beautiful

figure of the “Book of Life” (liber vitæ, to biblion tes zoes). This book of life is a list which

contains the names of ALL THE ELECT and admits NEITHER ADDITIONS NO ERASURES.

(2) The second quality of predestination, the DEFINITENESS of the number of the elect,

follows NATURALLY from the first. For if the eternal counsel of God regarding the

predestined is UNCHANGEABLE, then the number of the predestined must likewise be

UNCHANGEABLE and DEFINITE, subject NEITHER to ADDITIONS nor to

CANCELLATIONS. Anything indefinite in the number would eo ipso imply a lack of

certitude in God’s knowledge and would DESTROY His omniscience.

**THE THEORY OF PREDESTINATION prævisa merita

THIS THEORY, CHAMPIONED BY all Thomists and a few Molinists (as Bellarmine, Francisco Suárez, Francis de Lugo):**

Asserts that God, by an absolute decree and without regard to any future supernatural merits, predestined from all eternity certain men to the glory of heaven, and then, in consequence of this decree, decided to give them all the graces necessary for its accomplishment. End quote.

**THE FOLLOWING TEACHINGS CONFIRMS THE ABOVE THEORY OF PREDESTINATION
**

John 15:16; “You did not chose Me, but I chose you …”

2 Tim.1:9; “God who saved us and called us with holy calling, NOT ACCORDING TO OUR WORKS, but ACCORDING TO HIS OWN PURPOSE …”

Eph.1:11; “… being predestined ACCORDING TO THE PURPOSE of Him …”

John 6:44 … NO ONE can come to Me unless the Father DRAWS him.

In other words, when God commands, He capacitates the hearer to respond.

Yet the ability to respond is also His gift.

Aquinas said, “God changes the will without forcing it.
But he can change the will from the fact that He himself operates in the will as He does in nature,” De Veritatis 22:9.

Similarly, the Council of Orange says that “in every good work, we do not begin.” (#329.2)

ST. AUGUSTINE ON GRACE AND PREDESTINATION

De gratia Christi 25, 26:

“For not only has God given us our ability and helps it, but He even works [brings about] willing and acting in us; not that we do not will or that we do not act, but that without His help we neither will anything good nor do it.”

De gratia et libero arbitrio 16, 32:
“It is certain that we will when we will; but He brings it about that we will good. . . . It is certain that we act when we act, but He brings it about that we act, PROVIDING MOST EFFECTIVE POWERS TO THE WILL.”

Phil.2:13; “For it is God who works in you BOTH TO WILL and TO ACT for His good pleasure.”

CCC 2022; “The divine initiative in the work of grace PRECEDES,PREPARES, and ELICITS the free response of man. …”

The salvation of God’s children/elect always based on God’s initiative.

God bless James and every readers of the CAF.

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