Kamala Harris announces $100B plan for black homeownership, tackling racial wealth gap

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Hmm, maybe she ought to remind him of the black slave masters in Africa who sold slaves to the trade.
 
This is a very sad post. In this age where so much information is at one’s fingertips, misinformation seems to be more rampant than ever. When I first joined fb I was amazed at how quickly I could get in touch with people all over the world. Now I’m being exposed to too much information. I had to turn my SIL off because of her constant pontification on political and social ideals, and denigration of those not of the same persuasion as intolerant.
 
In recent years my parish has has many priests from Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda, Burma, Sri Lanka, India, and even one from Ireland. They are first assigned to our parish because it is close the the chancery office which helps them get all their work permits, driver’s licenses, and other legal paperwork done. They have been a great blessing to us in reminding us what “catholic” means. Then they take advanced classes in theology and canon law at the University of Notre Dame. The Burmese priest is with us more or less permanently because our diocese sponsored a whole boatload of refugees and many of them are now members of our parish.

One of the Nigerian priests told us that his country has around 5000 dialects spoken even today, and that until recently people from one village often could not communicate with a neighboring village. One of our alumni became a bishop after returning to Nigeria and had a price put on his head by Muslim terrorists. The idea that Africans live in peace with each other is absurd. Idi Amin, the Rwandan genocide, South Sudan, and many other conflicts going on today are not secrets.
 
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Wait…Blacks in Britain blame whites in Britain for American slavery?
 
Sounds like an American generalization or it could be a prelude to the book “The Ugly American”…and it couldn’t be farther from the truth.

I’m an old gal now. I often wonder if I was thought of in my teen years as a shoddy character with my long hair, bone straight parted down the middle, bell bottoms and tank tops as I went out to dock on the St. Clair river to hide my smoke from my parents. But the neighbors just off the break wall, they could see it all. What did they think?

Every generation has their hippies, rebels without a clue, and tyrants.

Some of them grow up to be a 360 turn around, who’d a thunk???

I’m not buying what you’re peddling. The topic was retribution in the form of home ownership or the possibility of making loans available to African Americans backed by the Federal Government.

Regarding federal backing our federally insured loans have been taken advantage of Americans who literally cannot pay them back, OR they will be looking at paying them back forever.

Our country needs to stop making the 3rd party the party that holds all the wealth, and that party is corporate America that thinks of nothing other than greed, the stock market or million dollar homes they can no longer sell. Too big, and we feed them like a communistic welfare groupee. WE feed them in the form of health insurance which most Americans don’t want to use because of the costs associated with high deductible, all hail junk insurance.

Mind you, hahahaha the above is a critique of what is the normal of our “white culture”…now use that same imagination you used in your stereo-type depiction above, and imagine you’re a minority in the culture I described.

Cuz relative (in Irish sense) that’s what making America great again looks like in 2019.

Fun, eh?
 
dvdjs said:
But a key point of the thread is that the program that Harris proposed is for some reason being incorrectly portrayed as targeted to blacks.
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One person used the word targeted to describe the program, and we have had all these posts discussing the word.

If I say the ad for Sugar-Sweet targets children, does that mean I refuse to sell the product to adults? No, it’s that I think the higher proportion of users will be children.

Now, if someone had described the program as a race-based program, that would have been stronger and more deserving of all this discussion, but the fact that one person used the word target has caused you to think what you wrote above, that the “targeting” is a key point of the thread, when the only reason it has received so much mention is that you are for some unknown reason upset that it was used to describe what Harris is doing.
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There seems to be a problem in accepting the proposal of a program that would predominantly help blacks
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Most of the people on this thread have been fine with the idea, if it helps. Some did not know the problem existed, and others have questioned the methods of Harris’s program, but I think all of us would agree that if people in the past were harmed by being excluded from benefitting from a government program, that, if they have not yet been helped, ought to be compensated in some way, regardless of the fact that those so helped might be predominantly African-American.
 
Annie said:
One person used the word targeted to describe the program, and we have had all these posts discussing the word.

If I say the ad for Sugar-Sweet targets children, does that mean I refuse to sell the product to adults? No, it’s that I think the higher proportion of users will be children.
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Don’t blame me for the fact that we have had all of these posts. If this were a simple miscommunication, or a simple misunderstanding of the posters message, that could have been handled in one quick follow up to clarify. That would have opened the door to a serious discussion of the merits and feasibility of the proposal rather than the dismissive remarks that made the proposal our as just a program to give a hand out to blacks.
 
Yet you are the one perpetuating this thread by not being able to let it go.Arguing over a word ,really?
 
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While KH does mention those in redline areas which quite possibly could include those other than black,the fact remains she said blacks several times in her statement .If she wasn’t targeting them specifically,then why mention them at all? There wasn’t that easy?
 
dvdjs said:
If this were a simple miscommunication, or a simple misunderstanding of the posters message, that could have been handled in one quick follow up to clarify.
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There was a very clear post thoroughly explaining his meaning. The fact is that you are unwilling to let go of the idea that there is a difference between a program “targeting black people” and “being only for black people.”

Kamala Harris said that black people had been disproportionately affected by the problem she was trying to address, and so they would be disproportionately benefited by the program she would like to institute.

No one has complained about the aim of the program or that its primary beneficiaries would be black people. People have questioned whether the program is well-designed or, given the number of other programs helping people to become homeowners, whether it is necessary. These are not comments against black people, black people benefiting, or the idea that black people were hurt by the previous situation.
 
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Jeanne_S said:
If she wasn’t targeting them specifically,then why mention them at all? There wasn’t that easy?
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Was it easy to acknowledge, at long last, the program targeting the effects of redlining?
She addressed her audience. She was speaking at at Essence’s Global Black Economic Forum, and tweeted about her address there.

Is there something wrong addressing blacks about issues facing them?
 
Annie said:
There was a very clear post thoroughly explaining his meaning.
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I don’t agree with you. It was misleading the way that “quoted” was used, and in presenting the program not as a program to remediate effects of redlining, which are well-documented, but about giving stuff to black people. And instead of any clarification the thread, has largely been about supporting the distortion, and talking as though there is something wrong with talking to a black audience about programs that will help black people.
 
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Maybe I missed a post or two, but the one poster who had problems like those you mention read the article and posted that he had changed his mind…
 
Theo520 said:
That need for self-reflection seems to keep coming up for you,
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Is that meant meant to be ironic?
Jeanne_S said:
So finally you agree she WAS targeting blacks! Whoo hoo
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Huh? I made no such statement. Where on earth do you get that idea?
She was speaking at an event to a black audience. Her preogram targets the effects of re-lining. Again:
dvdjs said:
Is there something wrong in addressing in blacks about issues facing them?
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