Kans. ed board OKs evolution-centered science

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Kans. ed board OKs evolution-centered science

TOPEKA, Kan. - The Kansas state Board of Education on Tuesday repealed science guidelines questioning evolution that had made the state an object of ridicule.

The new guidelines reflect mainstream scientific views of evolution and represent a political defeat for advocates of “intelligent design,” who had helped write the standards that are being jettisoned.

The intelligent design concept holds that life is so complex that it must have been created by a higher authority.

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Thekla said:
Sweet. I’m scoring this as a win for Catholicism.
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Too bad we cannot score it as a win for the children as now they will be primed for secularism. I sure hope those Catholic families practice their faith and pass it on and then their children will be insulated from the itinerant hodgepodge of poorly drawn atheistic conclusions that follow in the wake of physical evolution.

As for the non-Catholic Christians, we should pray for them and their conversion. They will face as children a real difficult and painful bind as authority figures pump secular atheism in on one side and creationism on the other.
 
👍 Excellent, I believe things were most likely created through evolution. I do not believe humans came about from evolution alone, but God did evolve the Great Apes until they were “in his image,” at which point he “breathed life unto them,” thus giving them a soul.
 
Having grown up in Kansas, and being a bit of a science nerd (life sciences), I can tell yout hat the way evolution was presented was truely wonderful. It was never presented as absolute truth, couldn’t of been, not enough evidence for absolutes. I was always taught that it was a theory that had strong support but had yet to be fully demonstrated. And this came from a strongly atheist biology instructor.
 
chotock said:
Having grown up in Kansas, and being a bit of a science nerd (life sciences), I can tell yout hat the way evolution was presented was truely wonderful. It was never presented as absolute truth, couldn’t of been, not enough evidence for absolutes. I was always taught that it was a theory that had strong support but had yet to be fully demonstrated. And this came from a strongly atheist biology instructor.
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That’s interesting. Was germ theory presented the same way?

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Tim
 
Score one of reality! I pray for those who are still accepting the falls science of creationism, that they will find truth.
 
chotock said:
Having grown up in Kansas, and being a bit of a science nerd (life sciences), I can tell yout hat the way evolution was presented was truely wonderful. It was never presented as absolute truth, couldn’t of been, not enough evidence for absolutes. I was always taught that it was a theory that had strong support but had yet to be fully demonstrated. And this came from a strongly atheist biology instructor.
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that is truely a shame

How did they treat other science topics?
 
Orogeny said:
That’s interesting. Was germ theory presented the same way?

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Tim
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I assume you are being facetious with that question.

Steveanderson…what do you mean its a shame? Having a teacher admit that evolution, while possible and perhaps partially true, may not be the whole answer should be a good thing. How often do we hear that something is the absolute be all end all of an arguement only to find out later that it was only the beginning (string theory, M-theory, branes etc)?

I was taught in this manner (with sciences)…“this is what we know now, it may change tomorrow, but for now this is how it works”. It allowed us students to yearn for more by leaving the door of exploration and creativity open and available.

We Catholics should identify with this method quite easily since this is what a fair amount of philosophy and theology is comprised of, working of what has been knows in order to know more.

I think the debacle in Kansas did a lot of good for us all, it showed that the story of where we came from biologically is not wholly known and that there is room for discussion.
 
Orogeny said:
Don’t assume. I am completely serious. Did he teach the same thing about germ theory?

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Tim
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Germ theory has much more demostrative proof behind it than evolution theory, i.e. hygiene and immunizations. Biology is a fun science, there seems to always be at least 1 rule breaker someplace in Creation, another reason to believe in God, only an intelligence could have a sense of humour.
 
chotock said:
Germ theory has much more demostrative proof behind it than evolution theory, i.e. hygiene and immunizations. Biology is a fun science, there seems to always be at least 1 rule breaker someplace in Creation, another reason to believe in God, only an intelligence could have a sense of humour.
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Did he qualify germ theory the same way as the threoretical side of evolution? Yes or no.

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Tim
 
Maranatha said:
Kans. ed board OKs evolution-centered science

TOPEKA, Kan. - The Kansas state Board of Education on Tuesday repealed science guidelines questioning evolution that had made the state an object of ridicule.

The new guidelines reflect mainstream scientific views of evolution and represent a political defeat for advocates of “intelligent design,” who had helped write the standards that are being jettisoned.

The intelligent design concept holds that life is so complex that it must have been created by a higher authority.

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Victory for the flying spaghetti monster!
 
Orogeny said:
Did he qualify germ theory the same way as the threoretical side of evolution? Yes or no.

Peace

Tim
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ok maybe I am not getting what you want here. I was taught Germ Theory as having been overwhelmingly demonstraive but not fully understood, i.e. some cancers may or may not have an extra-organism causation (think cervicle cancer).

I was taught science not theology and if something at the time was theory, I was taught that it was a theory.
 
I think he’s asking you if you included a line about the factuality of evolution in your recitation of the Nicene creed yet. :rolleyes: :cool:
 
chotock said:
ok maybe I am not getting what you want here. I was taught Germ Theory as having been overwhelmingly demonstraive but not fully understood, i.e. some cancers may or may not have an extra-organism causation (think cervicle cancer).

I was taught science not theology and if something at the time was theory, I was taught that it was a theory.
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Is gravity a theory?

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Tim
 
chotock said:
…….Steveanderson…what do you mean its a shame? Having a teacher admit that evolution, while possible and perhaps partially true, may not be the whole answer should be a good thing. How often do we hear that something is the absolute be all end all of an arguement only to find out later that it was only the beginning (string theory, M-theory, branes etc)?

I was taught in this manner (with sciences)…“this is what we know now, it may change tomorrow, but for now this is how it works”. It allowed us students to yearn for more by leaving the door of exploration and creativity open and available…
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Your very words indicate that the science teacher failed to teach the difference between the observable facts of evolution and the theory of evolution.

And that is, especially from you a self-confessed science nerd, what I meant by it’s a shame.

He basically put one of the most thoroughly demonstrated principles we know on the same plane as string theory or branes?
 
steveandersen said:
Your very words indicate that the science teacher failed to teach the difference between the observable facts of evolution and the theory of evolution.

And that is, especially from you a self-confessed science nerd, what I meant by it’s a shame.

He basically put one of the most thoroughly demonstrated principles we know on the same plane as string theory or branes?
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You know all I was trying to say is that Evolution theory, is only that, a theory. Yes there are some things that point to it being truth, or at least partially so, but not 100% accurate as of yet. Theories are not randomly generated, they are the product of research and study, usually on some other issue.

Now how that amounts to being taught incorrectly I have no idea. Not to mention this was a freshman biology class in the early 90’s. I apologize that I am not as well versed in all the facts and knowledge in Evolutionary Biology as you assume you must be.
 
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