Kasich Thread

  • Thread starter Thread starter Robert_Bay
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Btw it’s clear that Trump got Arizona’s 58 delegates and Cruz got Utah’s 40. But it’s strange that we still haven’t heard a result from Samoa. Potentially that could mean that Kasich did in fact receive some delegates this week.
 
Peter_J said:
Btw it’s clear that Trump got Arizona’s 58 delegates and Cruz got Utah’s 40. But it’s strange that we still haven’t heard a result from Samoa. Potentially that could mean that Kasich did in fact receive some delegates this week.
Click to expand...
I was impressed by Kasich’s showing in Utah actually. I would really like to see a serious contest between Cruz and Kasich play out between now and June. Kasich as nominee is more personable and his policies have much broader appeal, but there is the thorny issue of where the Trump/Cruz supporters would go (and I am assuming here Kasich wins a decent number of delegates). In any event, hopefully he and Cruz can unify and compromise with each other in some way - create a ticket, cabinet, etc. that a vast majority of Republicans (including Trumpers) will go for as workable.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
I was impressed by Kasich’s showing in Utah actually. I would really like to see a serious contest between Cruz and Kasich play out between now and June. Kasich as nominee is more personable and his policies have much broader appeal, but there is the thorny issue of where the Trump/Cruz supporters would go (and I am assuming here Kasich wins a decent number of delegates). In any event, hopefully he and Cruz can unify and compromise with each other in some way - create a ticket, cabinet, etc. that a vast majority of Republicans (including Trumpers) will go for as workable.
Click to expand...
And yet, in the latest polls, Kasich is the only one who could beat Hillary, and by a wide margin. The others poll below her.
 
mary_bobo said:
And yet, in the latest polls, Kasich is the only one who could beat Hillary, and by a wide margin. The others poll below her.
Click to expand...
I totally agree. But do you think Kasich could win the general election against Hillary if the GOP put him up as nominee on a second ballot, over Cruz and Trump?
 
Article:

How Kasich’s Religion Is Hurting Him With Conservatives

From the article:

For example, a cornerstone of Kasich’s governorship has been his expansion of Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act. Expanding Medicaid wasn’t a politically savvy move for an aspiring presidential candidate of a party almost single-mindedly dedicated to repealing Obamacare. But, as Kasich told the Christian Broadcasting Network, “I’m playing for a bigger game.” He cited as his motivation a passage from the Gospel of Matthew, in which Jesus speaks about the importance of kindness: “Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine,” Jesus tells his disciples, “you did for me.”

That Kasich would link the expansion of health care benefits so explicitly to the Bible upset the conservative establishment, and it wasn’t long before columnists began criticizing Kasich’s betrayal of conservative ideals. Some of his 2016 rivals chimed in too, saying the Medicaid expansion would make “more and more people dependent upon government” (Jeb Bush) and would add to the federal debt (Rick Perry). Kasich, for his part, has brushed aside his critics, and continues to cite his faith as the reason.“When you die and get to the meeting with St. Peter, he’s probably not going to ask you much about what you did about keeping government small,” he said in 2013. “But he is going to ask you what you did for the poor. You better have a good answer.”
 
FollowChrist34 said:
I totally agree. But do you think Kasich could win the general election against Hillary if the GOP put him up as nominee on a second ballot, over Cruz and Trump?
Click to expand...
How would he convince enough Cruz delegates and Trump delegates to vote for him? (I’ll grant you that he’d have a somewhat easier time convincing Rubio delegates to votes for him, but that’s less than 200.)
 
mary_bobo said:
And yet, in the latest polls, Kasich is the only one who could beat Hillary, and by a wide margin. The others poll below her.
Click to expand...
Al_Moritz said:
Article:

How Kasich’s Religion Is Hurting Him With Conservatives
Click to expand...
There’s the rub: despite predictions of what would happen in the general election, the fact is that we aren’t in the general election at this point, but in the primaries. (Not that you would know it from the way the media is pushing a Clinton-Trump duopoly narrative.)
 
FollowChrist34 said:
I totally agree. But do you think Kasich could win the general election against Hillary if the GOP put him up as nominee on a second ballot, over Cruz and Trump?
Click to expand...
Sure: I don’t see why that would make a difference.

If no one wins on the first ballot I think that would be perfectly legitimate to elect him on the second ballot.

Kasich is electable, which I think is a perfectly legitimate criterion for choosing a candidate.
 
signit said:
Sure: I don’t see why that would make a difference.

If no one wins on the first ballot I think that would be perfectly legitimate to elect him on the second ballot.

Kasich is electable, which I think is a perfectly legitimate criterion for choosing a candidate.
Click to expand...
I don’t want to put words in your mouth, of course, but I assume you’re mostly counting on Rubio delegates and Cruz delegates to vote for him? I doubt that Trump delegates would, no matter how many ballots they go through.
 
Peter_J said:
I don’t want to put words in your mouth, of course, but I assume you’re mostly counting on Rubio delegates and Cruz delegates to vote for him? I doubt that Trump delegates would, no matter how many ballots they go through.
Click to expand...
Right.

Assuming Trump does not get a majority on the first ballot, as I believe he will not, the Kasich/Cruz/Rubio contingent should be enough to give the win to Kasich, or in any event anyone but Trump.
 
Alright. I had to ask because I’ve heard many speak as though the delegates are chosen by the RNC and their only connection to their respective candidate is the binding.
 
signit said:
Sure: I don’t see why that would make a difference.

If no one wins on the first ballot I think that would be perfectly legitimate to elect him on the second ballot.

Kasich is electable, which I think is a perfectly legitimate criterion for choosing a candidate.
Click to expand...
If I had my choice, he would win the primary and the general. But I don’t have a lot of hope for the first.
 
Here’s an opinion piece from two days ago:

injo.com/2016/03/567478-4-reasons-nevertrump-stop-telling-john-kasich-drop-out/

The person disagrees with the belief that Kasich should get out of the race to help Cruz stop Trump.

Neither Cruz nor Kasich can win on the first ballot at this point. The best either one can hope for is to deny Trump a majority. And if either one drops out some of that person’s support will drift to Trump getting him that much closer to a majority. this happened when Rubio dropped out.

Kasich risks taking vote away from Cruz and helping Trump in some states (Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico), bit it seems that would be offset in states totaling 264 delegates (New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Pennsylvania) where he would take vote away from Trump.
 
signit said:
Here’s an opinion piece from two days ago:

injo.com/2016/03/567478-4-reasons-nevertrump-stop-telling-john-kasich-drop-out/

The person disagrees with the belief that Kasich should get out of the race to help Cruz stop Trump.

Neither Cruz nor Kasich can win on the first ballot at this point. The best either one can hope for is to deny Trump a majority. And if either one drops out some of that person’s support will drift to Trump getting him that much closer to a majority. this happened when Rubio dropped out.
Click to expand...
Trump supporters constantly peddle this line that he is being hurt by the fact that he has multiple opponents in this race. They don’t want you to recall that he got 32.5% of the vote in SC but 100% of the delegates.
 
Kasich is running neck-and-neck with Trump in Pennsylvania now. To me, at least, that’s a surprise. It looks like Trump really won’t receive the needed delegates by convention time.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
Kasich is running neck-and-neck with Trump in Pennsylvania now. To me, at least, that’s a surprise. It looks like Trump really won’t receive the needed delegates by convention time.
Click to expand...
As a moderate Republican myself I’m happy for Kasich. But I wish he would say more about his plan for this race than just “I’m going to get my message out.”
 
Out of the bunch, Mr. Kasich is the only one with shine. The rest of the bunch makes me want to pull my hair out and cry.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
Kasich is running neck-and-neck with Trump in Pennsylvania now. To me, at least, that’s a surprise. It looks like Trump really won’t receive the needed delegates by convention time.
Click to expand...
Please God … Please brothers and sisters in Christ … Please brothers and sisters in nationhood … Please open eyes and vote for the least destructive - Kasich!!! Please don’t let Sander, Hilary, or Trump make it … Please God — have mercy on us.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top