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randomuser said:
Somehow, I doubt it’s raising as many eyebrows (is that opinion, or news?) as a supposedly “pro-life” candidate who thinks Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization – except for abortion. Kasich is the true champion of the unborn – he has the track record to prove it.
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:confused: is correct.

The most pro-life candidate - with a track record to prove it, and who has never praised Planned Parenthood – except for abortion – and never will – and he barely won Ohio.

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randomuser said:
he barely won Ohio.
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Barely won anything and with corrupt radicals supporters as Soros whose groups are rioting across America and suppressing free speech he won’t win anything else either. All done imo.
As “moderate” Ohio Governor John Kasich continues to remain in the Republican race, his PAC “New Day for America” just received a major donation that’s raising eyebrows among conservatives.
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Soros fund managers Scott Bessent and Stanley Druckenmiller donated $488,375 to the Governor’s so-called “soft money” fund, according to records provided by the Federal Elections Commission (FEC).
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George Soros, who has spent billions of dollars creating and funding far-left organizations such as MoveOn.org, ACORN, and countless pro-amnesty organizations. After donating countless amounts of money to Congressional Democrats, Soros just handed a pro-Hillary Clinton PAC $8 million.
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Yes he’s pro life all the GOP candidate are its required to be on their ticket. Whats confusing is your odd connection of the two points. And this thread is about John K. I’m sure you noticed?
 
randomuser said:
and he barely won Ohio.
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I wouldn’t call this “barely won”: realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/oh/ohio_republican_presidential_primary-4077.html

Very interesting results, actually: Trump’s percentage was almost exactly as predicted by the polls, but many Rubio and Cruz supporters apparently switched their support to Kasich. Maybe I’m just showing my bias (because this is exactly how I would have voted if I lived in Ohio) but it looks to me like they were influenced by make-your-vote-count messages like:

“John Kasich is the only one who can beat Donald Trump in Ohio. If a voter in Ohio is motivated by stopping Donald Trump, I suspect that’s the only choice they can make.”
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It took the Ohio Governor 29 tries, but he finally won his first state in the GOP primaries with the help as Ted says of the Washington cartel. Even though its a mathematical impossibility for Kasich to reach the necessary 1,237 votes he continues backed by the cartel and Soros. What an advocate for “we the people” and free speech.

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randomuser said:
Somehow, I doubt it’s raising as many eyebrows …
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Maybe not causing eyebrows to be raised, but I’m guessing that heads are being scratched: keep Kasich in the race is a good way to hurt Ted Cruz’s chances, but news of a donation from Soros would hurt Kasich, right?

So maybe Soros is really trying to help Cruz. Or at least make us all *think *he is, and then – hold on, I think the scratch on my head is bleeding.

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Ted just stated John K needs to get out of the race he is if fact hurting the race and process and intentionally. All who believe in “we the people” a “core conservative principle” agree.

Free speech and we the people are not on the table for debate. Soros and John are confused and mistaken. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are intimately interconnected. Believing in pro-life and not in liberty is a non starter. Without life there is no liberty, and without liberty there is no pursuit of happiness. Each right builds upon the other including the right of the second amendment to protect life.
 
Peter_J said:
Maybe not causing eyebrows to be raised, but I’m guessing that heads are being scratched: keep Kasich in the race is a good way to hurt Ted Cruz’s chances, but news of a donation from Soros would hurt Kasich, right?

So maybe Soros is really trying to help Cruz. Or at least make us all *think *he is, and then – hold on, I think the scratch on my head is bleeding.

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Not to make the scratch on your head bleed any more but…

Maybe Soros is trying to make it seem like the they want Kasich to run against Hilary, seeing as no one has any faith that he stands a chance against her, so as to try and throw the sent off the fact that Kasich is the only one who has the potential to beat her. You know, throw enough toward his campaign to stir the pot by adding more confusion…😦
 
GaryTaylor said:
Ted just stated John K needs to get out of the race he is if fact hurting the race and process and intentionally. All who believe in “we the people” a “core conservative principle” agree.

Free speech and we the people are not on the table for debate. Soros and John are confused and mistaken. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are intimately interconnected. Believing in pro-life and not in liberty is a non starter. Without life there is no liberty, and without liberty there is no pursuit of happiness. Each right builds upon the other including the right of the second amendment to protect life.
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I finally realized this morning why Cruz does not have the support that Trump has. They were both trying to tap into the same group of people. Trump was able to do it better. 😦

If you don’t understand I’ll try to explain.
They are both just trying to tap into the anger, fear, and resentment that has been building up for years. Cruz tries to hide it behind eloquent speachs about free speach and first amendment rights. Trump just states his contempt. But they both are angry and are banking on and trying to drum up support from the GOP base that is fed up and angry. Trump’s style is winning which in a way could be a good thing in the long run…
 
simple_soul said:
I finally realized this morning why Cruz does not have the support that Trump has. They were both trying to tap into the same group of people. Trump was able to do it better. 😦

If you don’t understand I’ll try to explain.
They are both just trying to tap into the anger, fear, and resentment that has been building up for years. Cruz tries to hide it behind eloquent speachs about free speach and first amendment rights. Trump just states his contempt. But they both are angry and are banking on and trying to drum up support from the GOP base that is fed up and angry. Trump’s style is winning which in a way could be a good thing in the long run…
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SS, no one trusts Washington DC and thats the issue and the concern. They lost all credibility imho. Which is also why these same people find the GOP est mildly disturbing, they would propose to now circumvent the will of we the people which most feel is on-going in DC anyway and the issue. They go to DC and its the hell with the people and all about their agenda. Now its the hell with the people in even the elections. This party is done if they don’t understand the we the people aspect and clearly. And soon too.

But yes Ted walks both sides of the fence but I find that disturbing also and especially in the latest area of free-speech. Its political gaming and frankly insulting to people who thought better of Ted like myself.

The GOP in the realm of Cruz or Trump is a concern in the final unification of the party. I register Independent and don’t really believe in either of these agenda driven bought and sold parties. But thats what I read out of it.
 
You know, what I believe this country needs and does not even realiz it needs, is a candidate who can take it the good from the Democratic side and the good from the Republican side and find a way to show or explain to the people/voters it in a conprehensible way and also toss out what is wrong or bad about both parties and again show or explain why it is in a conprehensible way. The candidate may not even have to dwell on what is wrong. By just focusing on what is good and right about both parties, what is wrong will be left in the dust to let it die. If any one had the chance to listen to Mitt Romney’s speach at the Clinton Global address four years ago they would have heard the beginning of this kind of balanced approach. And I do believe if this approach had been started from the beginning of his campaign he would have been our next president. But politics and people being who they are changed it after the natural disaster that hit us right after.
The reason I bring this up is because from what I know of him, I do believe Kasich is the one candidate who has the most potential to have this balanced approach.
 
dixieagle said:
Isn’t it sad that so many people are willing to make their anger override common sense? As a result, the likely Republican nominee won’t even share many of the values they purportedly hold - unless, of course, they are fine with someone who is an (admitted) adulterer and clear misogynist, a narcissistic bully with little regard for law, and an outsize ego that makes him singularly dangerous in a position that would give him final say over the use of nuclear weapons.

I, for one, will support any effort to keep him from being the nominee. I can’t think of another candidate who has ever scared me the way he does. This inclination of much of the populace towards authoritarianism is horrifying.
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If scarier is what you want - think Hilary!
 
GaryTaylor said:
SS, no one trusts Washington DC and thats the issue and the concern. They lost all credibility imho. Which is also why these same people find the GOP est mildly disturbing, they would propose to now circumvent the will of we the people which most feel is on-going in DC anyway and the issue. They go to DC and its the hell with the people and all about their agenda. Now its the hell with the people in even the elections. This party is done if they don’t understand the we the people aspect and clearly. And soon too.

But yes Ted walks both sides of the fence but I find that disturbing also and especially in the latest area of free-speech. Its political gaming and frankly insulting to people who thought better of Ted like myself.

The GOP in the realm of Cruz or Trump is a concern in the final unification of the party. I register Independent and don’t really believe in either of these agenda driven bought and sold parties. But thats what I read out of it.
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I am a registered independent as well. My reasons used to be the same as yours. I used to believe both sides were out to enslave us all. But like you mentioned in a post in a different thread a while back is that these people are good people. I beleive some of them really are. And the ones who are, I believe, are on both sides trying to work through all the self interest greed, and egoes trying to work for the good of all mankind. But to sit here and try to sort out who is who in all the players coupled with how savey people have become at playing others is I believe what is creating this call to have a candidate step forward to start making scense of it all by speaking candidly about it and with truth and explaining it in a way that people can comprehend it regardless if they win the nomination or not.
 
I am a registered independent too. My reasons used to be the same as yours. I used to believe both sides were out to enslave us all. But like you mentioned in a post in a different thread anwhile back is that these people are good people. I beleive some of them really are. And the ones who are, I believe, are on both sides trying to work through all the self interest greed, and egoes trying to work for the good of all mankind. But to sit here and try to sort out who is who in all the players coupled with how savey people have become at playing others is I believe what is cr aging this call to have a candidate step forward to start making scense of it all by speaking candidly about it and with truth and explaining it in a way that people can comprehend it regardless if they win the nomination of not.
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You think thats John K? Fair enough, I disagree for reasons mentioned but I accept your take on things. 🙂
 
simple_soul said:
I finally realized this morning why Cruz does not have the support that Trump has. They were both trying to tap into the same group of people. Trump was able to do it better. 😦

If you don’t understand I’ll try to explain.
They are both just trying to tap into the anger, fear, and resentment that has been building up for years. Cruz tries to hide it behind eloquent speachs about free speach and first amendment rights. Trump just states his contempt. But they both are angry and are banking on and trying to drum up support from the GOP base that is fed up and angry. Trump’s style is winning which in a way could be a good thing in the long run…
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To some extent, yes. I think the Tea Party has long had a subset that might be called “the Spite Party”.

In a recent post (quoted below) I mentioned an SNL skit from 8 years ago. I’ll be interested to see if it gets replayed this year, because looking back now it almost seems prophetic: not that anyone has done the crazy things that “McCain” mentions in that skit; but somewhere along the way McCain’s message of I’m-not-bound-by-what-the-GOP-establishment-wants got replaced with opposing-what-the-GOP-establishment-wants as an end in itself. 😦
Peter_J said:
That just made me think of SNL spoofing John McCain’s reputation as a “Maverick”:

That just made me think of SNL spoofing John McCain’s reputation as a “Maverick”:

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I don’t mind upsetting members of my own party. Elizabeth Dole will tell you. I once got a hold of one of her checkbooks, and kited checks all over Washington! I ruined her credit rating! She’d be the first to agree, I’m no slave to Republican orthodoxy.
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I would first reach out for the support of Senate Democrats. And if that bothers my fellow Republicans, frankly, I don’t care. Ask Lindsay Graham. I once flushed three cherry bombs down the toilet of his Senate office. Absolutely destroyed the plumbing. I’m willing to buck members of my own party.
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You know, my friends, I’m not the most popular guy in my own party. Just ask Senator Trent Lott. I took his car one time without asking, and totaled it. Just drove it into a wall, and walked away! I’m not going to win any popularity contests among Republicans.

Now don’t get me wrong, I think Cruz is like the *real *McCain, not SNL’s McCain. But I’m just wondering, have some voters gotten to the point where they just want their candidate to be hated by “Washington” and don’t even care the reasons for that hatred? :o
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if George Soros is throwing his money around trying to make the chances of his candidate to have a better chance to win-how can this be an election by the people. It seems money determines who the winner will be.
 
I’d call it discontent and dissatisfaction with Washington; what some call the Uniparty.
 
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