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Lily_Bernans said:
Kasich is running neck-and-neck with Trump in Pennsylvania now. To me, at least, that’s a surprise. It looks like Trump really won’t receive the needed delegates by convention time.
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Wow, that is the first I have heard of that - how fantastic! (Cruz is neck and neck with Trump in California.)

This is what I would like to see - a big surge in the delegate count for both Kasich and Cruz going into the convention. We work it out at that point, on the floor of the convention. Remember Rubio can still give his delegates away. It really is walking on eggshells though - we must avoid grudges, hurt feelings in picking the nominee, dare I say it: ‘time to make great deals.’ 😃 The only way that I can see is to compromise, either Cruz goes more moderate (for real) or Kasich goes more conservative (for real). Cruz voters have to get on board with Kasich or vice versa. And what of the Trump people.

But again, all along, I have defended Kasich in the race. Cruz can beat him fair and square if he wants to - he keeps saying that is how he wants to beat Trump. The GOP is waking up - spring is here.

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FollowChrist34 said:
Wow, that is the first I have heard of that - how fantastic! (Cruz is neck and neck with Trump in California.)

This is what I would like to see - a big surge in the delegate count for both Kasich and Cruz going into the convention. We work it out at that point, on the floor of the convention. Remember Rubio can still give his delegates away. It really is walking on eggshells though - we must avoid grudges, hurt feelings in picking the nominee, dare I say it: ‘time to make great deals.’ 😃 The only way that I can see is to compromise, either Cruz goes more moderate (for real) or Kasich goes more conservative (for real). Cruz voters have to get on board with Kasich or vice versa. And what of the Trump people.

But again, all along, I have defended Kasich in the race. Cruz can beat him fair and square if he wants to - he keeps saying that is how he wants to beat Trump. The GOP is waking up - spring is here.

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You have to keep in mind that 54 of Pennsylvania’s 71 GOP delegates can vote for anyone they choose at the convention no matter who “wins” the state. So, those 54 delegates could really change the complexion of the convention.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
You have to keep in mind that 54 of Pennsylvania’s 71 GOP delegates can vote for anyone they choose at the convention no matter who “wins” the state. So, those 54 delegates could really change the complexion of the convention.
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Good point.

As a matter of fact, PA has the most unbound delegates, followed by ND with 28 and Samoa with 9 (which is all of Samoa’s delegates – which may partially explain why we never heard the results of its primary last week).

Would be nice if we had super delegates. 😉
 
Peter_J said:
Good point.

As a matter of fact, PA has the most unbound delegates, followed by ND with 28 and Samoa with 9 (which is all of Samoa’s delegates – which may partially explain why we never heard the results of its primary last week).

Would be nice if we had super delegates. 😉
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Clinton won four of American Samoa’s delegates, Sanders won two. I can’t find anything for the Republicans. Maybe they haven’t voted yet? I don’t know. I just can’t find any information about the GOP side at all, with regard to American Samoa.
 
Peter_J said:
Good point.

As a matter of fact, PA has the most unbound delegates, followed by ND with 28 and Samoa with 9 (which is all of Samoa’s delegates – which may partially explain why we never heard the results of its primary last week).

Would be nice if we had super delegates. 😉
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Would it?

They might parachute in Romney or Ryan to run.

Short of Clinton going to prison, which she won’t (she’ll plead out at the very worst), she was getting this nomination long before it started.
 
SuperLuigi said:
Would be nice if we had super delegates.
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Well that was somewhat tongue in cheek. But seriously, what ever happened to What’s good for the goose is good for the gander? Think about how many Dems are protesting on Trump’s behalf, about the fact that GOP delegates will have a chance to change their vote if nobody receives a majority on the first ballot (thus thwarting :rolleyes: the will of “the people” = the 37% that voted for Trump), all the while the Democratic Party has over 700 superdelegates. You can’t make this stuff up!
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I am quite concerned as Kasich has implied he wants to raid Social Security benefits of some Americans.

This is to allegedly pay the debt.

Yet Kasich is ALSO suggesting he wants to invent new Federal Government programs.

This suggests to me he is willing to use his power to take SS monies away from recipients, AND essentially use these dollars to start NEW PROGRAMS.

He is nebulous about it all, but implies this.

I am surprised nobody in the media is following up on these things!

Put me down in the “quite concerned” category.
 
Cathoholic said:
I am quite concerned as Kasich has implied he wants to raid Social Security benefits of some Americans.

This is to allegedly pay the debt.

Yet Kasich is ALSO suggesting he wants to invent new Federal Government programs.

This suggests to me he is willing to use his power to take SS monies away from recipients, AND essentially use these dollars to start NEW PROGRAMS.

He is nebulous about it all, but implies this.

I am surprised nobody in the media is following up on these things!

Put me down in the “quite concerned” category.
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They’re not following up because there seems little chance he’ll get to put any of his ideas into practice. :o
 
Joe_5859 said:
… there seems little chance he’ll get to put any of his ideas into practice. :o
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Something that he dances around a bit too much in my opinion.

Sometimes he seems to have a “White House or bust” attitude.
 
Kasich in last night’s Town Hall:

‘Ohio Gov. John Kasich told CNN host Anderson Cooper he was still optimistic that he could get the Republican presidential nomination at a town hall event Tuesday in Milwaukee. “At some point, the people that go to a convention are going to be concerned about who actually could run the country,” Kasich said. “And I have more experience, really, than all of them put together, except Mrs. Clinton.”’

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Joe 5859… You said with parenthesis mine . .

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They’re not following up because there seems little chance he’ll (Kasich) get to put any of his ideas into practice.

And I think that is accurate concerning the presidency.

But it appears to me at least, that Kasich is running for VP (despite denying this vehemently to many media people who I think have came to the same conclusion because they keep asking him about it).

If he gets a VP slot, Kasich could have disastrous effects on foreign policy.

Kasick is a BIG Government Globalist. Just the other day he was asserting we should add “police functions” to NATO, and internationl spy functions too.

Then Kasich insisted upon putting US intelligence prizes our agents and technologists have obtained (possibly even many deaths that we will never know of from our spys), and SHARE thesee intelligence pieces with the WORLD!

This is the kind of Globalist thinking that I expect from "Jimmy give-the-Panama-Canal-away-to-the-Chinese-Carter, or Bill Clinton helping North Korea obtain nukes.

We need to learn from such stupid mistakes.

Disastrous foreign policy ideas from Kasich.

And the media person let him get away with that without further details.

Kasich in a White House authoritative position, COULD be a proverbial “Globalist Wormtongue” if he had the ear of a president.
 
Cathoholic said:
Joe 5859… You said with parenthesis mine . .

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They’re not following up because there seems little chance he’ll (Kasich) get to put any of his ideas into practice.

And I think that is accurate concerning the presidency.

But it appears to me at least, that Kasich is running for VP (despite denying this vehemently to many media people who I think have came to the same conclusion because they keep asking him about it).

If he gets a VP slot, Kasich could have disastrous effects on foreign policy.

Kasick is a BIG Government Globalist. Just the other day he was asserting we should add “police functions” to NATO, and internationl spy functions too.

Then Kasich insisted upon putting US intelligence prizes our agents and technologists have obtained (possibly even many deaths that we will never know of from our spys), and SHARE thesee intelligence pieces with the WORLD!

This is the kind of Globalist thinking that I expect from "Jimmy give-the-Panama-Canal-away-to-the-Chinese-Carter, or Bill Clinton helping North Korea obtain nukes.

We need to learn from such stupid mistakes.

Disastrous foreign policy ideas from Kasich.

And the media person let him get away with that without further details.

Kasich in a White House authoritative position, COULD be a proverbial “Globalist Wormtongue” if he had the ear of a president.
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Fair enough. I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. If someone is in the race for the presidency, we should be able to evaluate his or her policy proposals, even if they are a long shot.
 
Little_Sheep said:
Kasich in last night’s Town Hall:

‘Ohio Gov. John Kasich told CNN host Anderson Cooper he was still optimistic that he could get the Republican presidential nomination at a town hall event Tuesday in Milwaukee. “At some point, the people that go to a convention are going to be concerned about who actually could run the country,” Kasich said. “And I have more experience, really, than all of them put together, except Mrs. Clinton.”’

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Exactly! No one can “trump” Hillary on experience! 🙂

Did you notice that every time Kasich did not agree with something he said, “Are you kidding me?” It got tiresome! LOL
 
Cathoholic said:
I am quite concerned as Kasich has implied he wants to raid Social Security benefits of some Americans.

This is to allegedly pay the debt.

Yet Kasich is ALSO suggesting he wants to invent new Federal Government programs.

This suggests to me he is willing to use his power to take SS monies away from recipients, AND essentially use these dollars to start NEW PROGRAMS.

He is nebulous about it all, but implies this.

I am surprised nobody in the media is following up on these things!

Put me down in the “quite concerned” category.
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I agree with this. His foreign policy almost makes him a bookend with Lindsey Graham. I find less and less to like about Kasich with each passing day.
 
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