Kavanaugh Drama Risks Driving Moderates, Women Away From GOP

[dvdjs]

Sure, you are making the assessment of his suitability based upon your judgement of his guilt, by presumption, in the assault.

Nope. You apparently are not following my posts.

 

[Ridgerunner]

What would the percentage be if there were no discrimination?

You have not yet demonstrated there is gender discrimination in admission to colleges or professional schools at all. When there does not seem to be any as indicated by the numbers, there is no reason why I should assume there is.

What about your teaching career? Have you been discriminated against in the teaching profession and if so, how and what is your proof that you were?

 

[pnewton]

The “FBI should investigate” is a total misunderstanding of the role of the FBI and proper legal jurisdiction.

This is from a deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Policy.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/25/fbi-kavanaugh-allegations-220621

I served as a deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Policy. In the role, I supervised the vetting of about 300 judicial nominees and reviewed the FBI’s background investigation report for each nominee.

Ironic that an administration that has promoted extreme vetting of every immigrant that steps foot on American soil would not want it done for the most powerful office in the country.

 

[HarryStotle]

Ridgerunner:

Nonsense. When the majority of people in professional schools are women, for that matter when the majority in colleges are women, you can’t credibly claim that women are blocked from advancement by gender discrimination.

Why not?

1. What would the percentage be if there were no discrimination?

One would assume 50%. Since it is already much higher than that, are we to presume reverse discrimination?

In fact, we might invoke some kind of appeal to “women’s privilege” – instead of white privilege – since women basically control the entire education system up to college. The evidence for a kind of institutional sexism preventing boys from doing well in school up to high school is even stronger than the supposed institutional racism benefiting whites.

Let’s do look at success and failure rates comparing boys and girls through primary and secondary institutions, it might be revelatory.

 

[MikeInVA]

Ironic that an administration that has promoted extreme vetting of every immigrant that steps foot on American soil would not want it done for the most powerful office in the country.

It has been done. Six times already.

 

[HarryStotle]

dvdjs:

Ridgerunner:

Nonsense. When the majority of people in professional schools are women, for that matter when the majority in colleges are women, you can’t credibly claim that women are blocked from advancement by gender discrimination.

Why not?

1. What would the percentage be if there were no discrimination?

One would assume 50%. Since it is already much higher than that, are we to presume reverse discrimination?

In fact, we might invoke some kind of appeal to “women’s privilege” – instead of white privilege – since women basically control the entire education system up to college. The evidence for a kind of institutional sexism preventing boys from doing well in school up to high school is even stronger than the supposed institutional racism benefiting whites.

Let’s do look at success and failure rates comparing boys and girls through primary and secondary institutions, it might be revelatory.

According to stats from the NCES, only about 37.8% of males go on to attend post-secondary institutions while 43.2% of women do.

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d16/tables/dt16_302.60.asp

So, to turn your question back to you…
What would the percentage be if there were no discrimination?

What should the percentage of men and women going on to college be, if there were no discrimination?

Given that female success is higher among whites, blacks and Hispanics, there seems to be a pattern of discrimination, no?

 

[pnewton]

It has been done. Six times already.

This allegation? If new evidence comes forth, you think there should be no further investigation. In light of his denial, there might even be perjury involved. I would think this would warrant further investigation.

That said, I think requiring here to go on the record first by testifying is a reasonable request. I just hope no one thinks these senators are capable of investigating anything beyond a lunch menu.

 

[dvdjs]

You have not yet demonstrated there is gender discrimination in admission to colleges or professional schools at all.

1. When did that become the issue?
   Your claim:

If I didn’t know women who became ambassadors, partners in law firms, multi-millionaires, elected officials to national and statewide office, research physicians, publishing professors, your article might make a person think the patriarchy tales are true.

was about “ambassadors, partners in law firms, multi-millionaires, elected officials to national and statewide office, research physicians, publishing professors”.

1. My point was to response to your claim of “nonsense”. I think it clear that the argument you made to suggest that my comment was nonsense was anything but compelling.

What about your teaching career? Have you been discriminated against in the teaching profession and if so, how and what is your proof that you were?

What on earth are you talking about?

 

[Ridgerunner]

The “testimony” will contain zero actual evidence. It will be an emotional smear of an innocent man by a woman who remembers nothing of it that her psych didn’t “elicit” from her “repressed memory”.

 

[MikeInVA]

This allegation?

If this event didn’t come up in the last six investigations I’d be inclined to believe that it didn’t happen, or didn’t happen as described by the accuser.

 

[Ridgerunner]

You claim there is gender discrimination. But you haven’t proved it or presented anything to defend it.

If you’re not a teacher, then never mind. But if you are, then have you been discriminated against in your profession and if so, how?

 

[pnewton]

The “testimony” will contain zero actual evidence.

Testimony, by its very nature, is evidence.

 

[Ridgerunner]

You’re right. But her testimony will contain no evidence other than her own statement. Her “testimony” is going to be an emotionally-charged smear of an innocent man.

 

[dvdjs]

According to stats from the NCES

What are you propagating the pivot from career advancement to college attendance?

Given that female success is higher among whites, blacks and Hispanics,

What is success?

there seems to be a pattern of discrimination, no?

Possibly - in the widest sense of individual choice.
Young men and women are discriminating in their choices about career paths. It may be the case that more women choose post-secondarty education than men. Do you have evidence that men are discriminted aginst in admissions?

 

[dvdjs]

You claim there is gender discrimination.

Actually I haven’t made such a claim.

But you haven’t proved it or presented anything to defend it.

I haven’t attempted to do so. I am busy dispelling irrelevant arguments against the proposition

If you’re not a teacher, then never mind. But if you are, then have you been discriminated against in your profession and if so, how?

Why is my personal life of any interest in this conversation?

 

[pnewton]

We might all be surprised. Her own testimony, under oath, might reveal some serious contradiction in the narrative that undermines the whole allegation.

 

[ProVobis]

But her testimony will contain no evidence other than her own statement.

Well, that’s what was agreed upon.

 

[Ridgerunner]

"dvdjs:

Why is my personal life of any interest in this conversation?

Since you have not supported your argument in any other way, I thought perhaps that would give you the opportunity to speak to it. But you don’t want to, so fine.

I realize you like to express yourself in a way you think allows you to disavow your statements when you’re challenged, but I think it’s pretty plain you were asserting that there is gender discrimination.

 

[dvdjs]

I realize you like to express yourself in a way you think allows you to disavow your statements when you’re challenged,

I posted an interesting article with an interesting viewpoint. Rather than disagreeing with the article, you disagreed with me. Then you made your questions about my personal life. That is inappropriate.

 

[ucfengr]

This allegation? If new evidence comes forth, you think there should be no further investigation.

If the FBI missed Kavanaugh’s involvement in an organized rape ring during 6 separate investigations, they should change the name to the Federal Bureau of Incompetence and completely abolish the agency.