Kavanaugh Drama Risks Driving Moderates, Women Away From GOP

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Ah yes, people must be stupid or ill informed because they don’t agree with you.
 
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niceatheist said:
Ah yes, people must be stupid or ill informed because they don’t agree with you
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Hey, I’m not the one going into a religious forum claiming to be an atheist or for that matter, nice, and claiming people are entertaining fantasies. Who said that? We all should take a look in the mirror, so read your words.
 
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I don’t think I’ve said anything about anyone entertaining fantasies, nor does your post have anything to do with the topic.
 
niceatheist said:
Ah yes, people must be stupid or ill informed because they don’t agree with you.
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Are you denying that the mainstream media ill-informs the people? Even the vast majority of the people says they do.

The poll isn’t as damning as you might think.
More voters believe Ford’s claims than Kavanaugh’s denials by a 6-point margin, 36 vs. 30 percent. However, about one-third, 34 percent, are unsure who is telling the truth.
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So the “wouldn’t vote for Kavanaugh” segment are not so much ill-informed but are more a function of the 34% who are unsure about the charges and not yet willing to express a vote for Kananaugh without assurance. That would seem to represent a good number who just wish to be completely fair.

Now if Kavanaugh can clear himself or Smith shown to be a fraud those numbers who would vote for him could shoot to 64% very quickly.

It is interesting that the least popular judge before Kavanaugh was Gorsuch, and given the quality of his character and work, the poll regarding Kavanaugh’s favorability just proves that the country is politically polarized along party lines more so than saying anything about Kavanaugh.

If these allegations are shown to be completely bogus it could mean a mass exodus away from the Dem party that would make the #walkaway movement just blip. The Dems are taking a huge credibility gamble that they may not have fully considered. The truth has a way of winning out in the end.
 
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Theo520 said:
Now they are being used to discredit a man with a pattern of good performance and no pattern of abuse.
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But you don’t know that, and neither do I. This is why investigations are so important because the FBI has the resources to possibly find out. If there’s no there there, he’ll likely be confirmed.
 
Metis1 said:
But you don’t know that, and neither do I. This is why investigations are so important because the FBI has the resources to possibly find out. If there’s no there there, he’ll likely be confirmed.
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Yes we do, we have testimony from numerous female colleagues who worked both with and FOR him daily. Of high importance is that none of clerks over which he held power have suggested he was improper in his attitude or actions. We are talking about literally many thousands of hours of personal observation of his behavior.
 
Theo520 said:
Yes we do, we have testimony from numerous female colleagues who worked both with and FOR him daily. Of high importance is that none of clerks over which he held power have suggested he was improper in his attitude or actions. We are talking about literally many thousands of hours of personal observation of his behavior.
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Hypothetically, just because a sexual assaulter might not do any assaulting to most doesn’t mean he didn’t do it to any. How many times do we hear in the t.v. news something like “I can’t believe he could do such a thing, as he seemed so nice”.

Again, what’s the problem with letting the FBI investigate, which normally takes about 2-3 days on such matters. Even if it took a week, what’s the problem. [notice the absence of a question mark as there simply is no problem if one really wants to seek out the truth]
 
HarryStotle said:
This is a watershed moment in American politics.

Either the electorate will accede to political assassination being an acceptable strategy or the electorate will reject it completely.

If the Dems win in the mid-terms, clearly voters are fully on board with “whatever it takes to win.” If the Dems lose big time, malicious politics will have been soundly rejected.

I pray for the latter.

Americans will get what they ask for. They can incentivize this kind of hooliganism by rewarding it, or they will dis-incentivize it by throwing out the worst proponents of it, including the mainstream media and the entertainment, so-called, elites.
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I’ve been wondering (from Australia) how American’s are reacting to this nonsense.

To me, it should have been dismissed as soon as it was raised. Thirty six years ago is just too long to bring up anything other than a serious crime, especially if the alleged perpetrator was just 17 - too young to vote, too young to drink, a “minor” in many jurisdictions. Kavanaughs apparent innocence is secondary - this should never have been an issue.

It could also happen here. Although we don’t have your process for judicial nominations, we do have an aggressive left and media who indulge in similar tactics to what yours are doing with the Kavanaugh nomination.

I’m watching the outcome with great interest. As you say, “This is a watershed moment in American politics. Either the electorate will accede to political assassination being an acceptable strategy or the electorate will reject it completely.”. I’m hoping for a resounding rebuff, both in the courts and the electorate, which will be felt in Australia.
 
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Thirty six years ago is just too long to bring up anything other than a serious crime, especially if the alleged perpetrator was just 17 - too young to vote, too young to drink, a “minor” in many jurisdictions.
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I think you mean to young to drink legally.
The crime alleged was serious. His guilt or innocence of it is of paramount importance; if guilty of that crimes he is also guilty of lying about it even now.

Why are people so interested in sending a message to young boys that assault while shy of 18 years should be without consequences?
 
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Edmundus1581:
Thirty six years ago is just too long to bring up anything other than a serious crime, especially if the alleged perpetrator was just 17 - too young to vote, too young to drink, a “minor” in many jurisdictions.
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I think you mean to young to drink legally.
The crime alleged was serious. His guilt or innocence of it is of paramount importance; if guilty of that crimes he is also guilty of lying about it even now.

Why are people so interested in sending a message to young boys that assault while shy of 18 years should be without consequences?
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And she was 15. If he’s old enough to be responsible for the “crime” then she’s old enough to report it.

And she’s had another 36 years since then to report it.

Are you sending a message to girls (and women) that they are less responsible for their actions than boys are?
 
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I think both sides will be motivated if Kavenaugh goes down.I just pray there are more of us then there are of them and justice prevails.
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Edmundus1581 said:
Are you sending a message to girls (and women) that they are less responsible for their actions than boys are?
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Are you seriously imagining some equivalence between perpetrators and victims?
Please read #whyIdidn’treport.
 
Metis1 said:
Hypothetically, just because a sexual assaulter might not do any assaulting to most doesn’t mean he didn’t do it to any. How many times do we hear in the t.v. news something like “I can’t believe he could do such a thing, as he seemed so nice”.

Again, what’s the problem with letting the FBI investigate, which normally takes about 2-3 days on such matters. Even if it took a week, what’s the problem. [notice the absence of a question mark as there simply is no problem if one really wants to seek out the truth]
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what’s with your labels? Am I still a bed wetter, because I may have done it once as a child? I’ve said that his pattern of behavior as an adult is what matters for this position. Why do dems feel a non-adult transgression that contrasts years of adult behavior is of any relevance?

The harm is obvious, it is being thrown out at the last minute to delay the hearings and a vote. DF could have submitted this to the FBI months ago.
 
Theo520 said:
I could understand the push back against Moore, since allegations against him were when he was an adult and there seemed to be a pattern of his undesirable behavior.
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Sorry, but I think Judge Moore was just smeared. I find it incredulous to believe that the behavior he was accused of would be tolerated in small-town America or so long.
 
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