Kavanaugh Drama Risks Driving Moderates, Women Away From GOP

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

No hint of your own bias there.

I have my “biases” because I have my opinions. I left that on the front doorstep as I did with my last post, but I have to admit that it left the door open for you to create a strawman for you to skew.

A bias is inherently an opinion without sufficient justification, or an opinion that is held with justification that a person wrongly assumes is sufficient.

Your admission of bias, I assume, since you call it bias, is simply an admission that you believe things without proper justification. No straw man is necessary to debunk your claims since you admit you hold them without sufficient justification. You aren’t even trying to make your case, apparently, since you admit you don’t have one to make.

You are free to function that way. I have qualms as to whether that is a reasonable way to go forward.

Now if you were under the impression that you had sufficient justification, but in fact did not, you wouldn’t go around admitting bias, would you?

Of course, your next step is to claim, quite falsely, that everyone is biased because no one has sufficient warrant to believe what they do. That WOULD BE a straw man, unless you want to make a case for that.

 

[dvdjs]

it relies totally on the impressions of some or isolated incidents which have nothing to do with the case in question. The presumption of guilt is brazen …

Kavanaugh has opted to be in groups whose record of misogyny is not constructed from isolated incidents but is documented and pervasive. To me, it would be great to hear him disavow the bad conduct, rather than try to deny it, or simply deny his own participation in specific events.

 

[MonteRCMS]

Bar room talk.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

it relies totally on the impressions of some or isolated incidents which have nothing to do with the case in question. The presumption of guilt is brazen …

Kavanaugh has opted to be in groups whose record of misogyny is not constructed from isolated incidents but is documented and pervasive. To me, it would be great to hear him disavow the bad conduct, rather than try to deny it, or simply deny his own participation in specific events.

Documented and pervasive, according to who? You are begging the question by accepting as “documentation” what his accusers claim, not what has been determined.

He has disavowed the bad conduct, many times. Watch his interview.

It appears that you are setting a somewhat frivolous standard for finding him credible – i.e., if he merely denies, he is not credible; if he denies his own participation, then he is kind of credible; but if he disavows bad conduct, then he is credible.

Yeah, like that would make any difference, in reality.

 

[dvdjs]

Documented and pervasive, according to who?

Read about DKE at Yale. Read about T&C at Yale.

It appears that you are setting a somewhat frivolous standard for finding him credible – i.e., if he merely denies, he is not credible; if he denies his own participation, then he is kind of credible; but if he disavows bad conduct, then he is credible.

You may think it frivolous, but I think it virtuous.

 

[HarryStotle]

You may think it frivolous, but I think it virtuous.

No, actually, you are judging Kavanaugh’s guilt or innocence based upon his agreement with you on what you consider to be “bad conduct,” and all that without any clear knowledge of what Kavanaugh does think.

In fact, it isn’t so much a case of his disavowing “bad conduct” that is the problem, it’s the fact that you merely assume his agreement with bad conduct by his loose association with some group at Yale or other. It isn’t as if you have any specific evidence about Kavanaugh’s bad conduct but you are looking to smear him by finding some association somewhere that might show he could be guilty of something. Nothing specific, nothing credible, just smear broadly and wildly, hoping that something sticks, and even if nothing does, you hope to influence as many people as possible to have a negative opinion of him.

It certainly doesn’t sound like anything Jesus taught or that the Church teaches, does it?

In fact, it sounds like and looks like and smells like calumny.

calumny​

noun

cal·um·ny | \ ˈka-ləm-nē also ˈkal-yəm- \

Definition of Calumny​

1 : a misrepresentation intended to harm another’s reputation

2 : the act of uttering false charges or misrepresentations maliciously calculated to harm another’s reputation

More like you’ve caught whatever it is that Hirono has and is actively trying to pass on to everyone around her by spewing spittle and sputum.

Not everyone thinks as fatuously, or as maliciously, as that.

Congratulations.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

Documented and pervasive, according to who?

Read about DKE at Yale.

Okay…

Presidents who were DKE:
https://dke.org/presidents

Businessmen:

https://dke.org/businessmen

Adventurers:

https://dke.org/adventurers

 

[HarryStotle]

Read about T&C at Yale.

Okay…

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www.yaleclubtc.org

Oh…

… you just want me to read whatever mud and slime someone somewhere dug up on those organizations?

I see.

 

[Theo520]

Kavanaugh has opted to be in groups whose record of misogyny is not constructed from isolated incidents but is documented and pervasive.

YUP, he opted to be an Ivy league student.
You got him there.

 

[HarryStotle]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...omen-away-from-gop/ar-BBNAysq?ocid=spartanntp

Here’s the long term goal.

I am wondering, if Kavanaugh knows he is completely innocent of the accusations, has he thought about bringing a huge lawsuit, for damages to his reputation and career, against his accusers, in the event that the requisite number of votes fail to materialize because of their allegations? Why wouldn’t he? Especially if there are provable links between the accusers and the DNC showing collusion and fabrication of testimony, and if he can prove beyond doubt he is being falsely accused.

It should happen, purely to hold those accountable for their smear tactics, and to dissuade this kind of campaign in the future.

 

[MonteRCMS]

There is an excellent photo on Facebook with one of the women posing with George Soros.

 

[Ridgerunner]

This is really far out. If I didn’t know women who became ambassadors, partners in law firms, multi-millionaires, elected officials to national and statewide office, research physicians, publishing professors, your article might make a person think the patriarchy tales are true.

And the “Georgetown prep” folks are not the “ruling class”. They often aspire to it, and some make it. But they’re absolutely not the “ruling class”.

But it takes very serious dedication for both men and women to get anywhere near the top. They give up a lot to get there.

 

[dvdjs]

No, actually, you are judging Kavanaugh’s guilt or innocence

I am not judging his guilt or innocence in the assault. But I am making an assessment of his suitability for the SCOTUS.

“bad conduct,” and all that without any clear knowledge of what Kavanaugh does think.

He has had ample opportunities to let us know. I hope he speaks out clearly and specifically today.

 

[dvdjs]

If I didn’t know women who became ambassadors, partners in law firms, multi-millionaires, elected officials to national and statewide office, research physicians, publishing professors, your article might make a person think the patriarchy tales are true.

That is like the argument that the election of Obama as President shows that there is no racism in the country.
Really far out.

 

[Metis1]

Your admission of bias, I assume, since you call it bias , is simply an admission that you believe things without proper justification.

Since I have been the one who insists that the FBI needs to investigate rather then just leave it to the two parties, I would suggest that this is an area whereas I’m not biased. I also have repeatedly not drawn any judgment on who’s telling the truth and who’s not because I simply don’t know.

BTW, everyone has biases in one area or another, but only some are willing to actually admit that.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Nonsense. When the majority of people in professional schools are women, for that matter when the majority in colleges are women, you can’t credibly claim that women are blocked from advancement by gender discrimination.

I believe you have said you are a college professor. Do you think you have experienced gender discrimination in your career, and if so, what?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Since I have been the one who insists that the FBI needs to investigate rather then just leave it to the two parties, I would suggest that this is an area whereas I’m not biased. I also have repeatedly not drawn any judgment on who’s telling the truth and who’s not because I simply don’t know.

BTW, everyone has biases in one area or another, but only some are willing to actually admit that.

What do you want the FBI to do differently from what they did six times previously?

Diane Feinstein obviously didn’t have sufficient interest in another investigation for two months. Why should anyone else?

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

Your admission of bias, I assume, since you call it bias , is simply an admission that you believe things without proper justification.

Since I have been the one who insists that the FBI needs to investigate rather then just leave it to the two parties, I would suggest that this is an area whereas I’m not biased. I also have repeatedly not drawn any judgment on who’s telling the truth and who’s not because I simply don’t know.

BTW, everyone has biases in one area or another, but only some are willing to actually admit that.

Why is your opinion on whether the FBI needs to investigate, the opinion that should count? Isn’t an FBI investigation up to the FBI to call? Why are you dictating to the FBI what ought to be their role?

The FBI have already stated they are not interested in investigating the claim.

Again, if there should be an investigation, the proper channel is that Ford should contact the local authorities where the crime occurred and let that be the way Kavanaugh’s guilt or innocence is established.

She hasn’t done that, though. Why would that be?

Perhaps because she is attempting to get political mileage out of her allegations in the hope of derailing his appointment to the Supreme Court?

The “FBI should investigate” is a total misunderstanding of the role of the FBI and proper legal jurisdiction.

The fact that you are promoting it, assuming you know better, reveals your bias.

 

[dvdjs]

Nonsense. When the majority of people in professional schools are women, for that matter when the majority in colleges are women, you can’t credibly claim that women are blocked from advancement by gender discrimination.

Why not?

1. What would the percentage be if there were no discrimination?
2. You are looking at students not women in various stages of their careers. Show me data on the latter, who have been up for various stages of advancement.
3. What are the data for major career leadership positions?

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

No, actually, you are judging Kavanaugh’s guilt or innocence

I am not judging his guilt or innocence in the assault. But I am making an assessment of his suitability for the SCOTUS.

Sure, you are making the assessment of his suitability based upon your judgement of his guilt, by presumption, in the assault.

Shell game – don’t look here, look over there.

Uh huh.