Kavanaugh Drama Risks Driving Moderates, Women Away From GOP

[Victoria33]

So you consider Bloomberg bias but you don’t consider Rush bias? Wow! No words. Just wow.

Did someone make the assertion you say? All I said is that Conservatism in a broad way supported Kavanaugh.

Bloomberg would seem to lean liberal.

 

[ProVobis]

Bloomberg would seem to lean liberal.

What’s liberal about business and the free markets? Oh I get it. Now they have to report on effects of tariffs. Very liberal because they oppose Trump, the ultimate micromanager of commerce.

 

[niceatheist]

And here comes the white nationalism. “Oh my, the poor white guy.”

 

[Metis1]

And you all are buying into it.

And you are “bearing false witness” with the above because you are assigning a motive to me that I simply don’t have, especially since I’m pro-life.

It is people like you why so many victims of sexual abuse are afraid to come out and become victims again. It is people like you who would rather play politics than actually seek the Truth, regardless of what it may be. It’'s people like you who jump to unwarranted conclusions and use stereotyping to create strawnen and then condemn the strawman they’ve created. All you have established is that basic empathy and honesty mean so little to you, sorry to say.

I don’t know if Kavanaugh or Ford is telling the Truth, so I’m willing to wait for the FBI to do what it does seven days a week. I’m willing to wait and see what the FBI may find out-- too bad it’s not you who is willing to put partisan politics aside to try and find out what the Truth may be.

e-nuff

 

[MikeInVA]

Let the FBI do its work and then let’s see. If they find nothing, then I certainly have no objections to Kavanaugh being confirmed as I’m not a partisan hack.

The FBI has done 6 background investigations on him, over the course of more than 20 years and found nothing derogatory. How many bogus accusations need to be investigated before you would actually be satisfied?

 

[Metis1]

By asking the witness who came forth and said he didn’t see such activity and who’s now in hiding. Why nor subpoena him as they now know where he’s at?

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

Or maybe it is because Gorsuch did not get drunk and attempt to rape a girl in high school

See, you found him guilty just because he was accused of it.

This is an error in logic on your part. I proposed a reason why Gorsuch was not accused of sexual misconduct. That fact does not take a position one way or the other on Kavanaugh.

They’ve convinced you without your having ever seen any evidence at all, not even Ford’s testimony.

By the way, not that it matters, but I watched every minute of Ford’s testimony on TV.

They’re not smearing Kavanaugh because of Ford. They brought Ford out to smear Kavanaugh because of Kavanaugh’s possibly being prolife.

Not that boogeyman again!

 

[Metis1]

How many bogus accusations need to be investigated before you would actually be satisfied?

You are prejudicing the case by claiming they’re “bogus accusations”, so it’s clear you have no desire to seek the truth, whatever that may be.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Why do you want to sweep this under the rug? Are you so calloused as to be so willing to ignore the women who’ve came out? Do you know how difficult it is for a possible victim of sexual assault to come out or don’t you really care?

Let the FBI do its work and then let’s see. If they find nothing, then I certainly have no objections to Kavanaugh being confirmed as I’m not a partisan hack.

No rug. Kavanaugh was ambushed by this thing; a story told by a woman who didn’t actually remember it herself, but only “remembered” it when a shrink persuaded her that “repressed memory” is anything other than the hoax it truly is. No proof. Nothing but others saying it didn’t happen.

And so then that crook Avenatti comes up with two more women whose stories are even more preposterous and don’t match up with anything real or realistic.

I’m with Geraldo Rivera on this one. He’s “pro choice” but admits the opposition to Kavanaugh is about abortion. Other pundits have said the same thing. Ford is an abortion activist herself. But we’re supposed to believe her “repressed memories” instead of a man who has led an honorable life and has dozens of people, including women, who will vouch for him.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

There plenty of other reasonable conclusions. The Dems could be expected to oppose him because of this position on environmental protection, on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, on privacy vs. national security (database of phone calls), gun control, net neutrality, and many more. Now you may see all of these positions as pluses, and that is fine for you. But you have to admit that the Democrats’ position on these issues is very different from Kavanaugh’s and these issues have nothing to do with abortion or religious rights or anything that could be called anti-Catholic. There is no omni-present boogeyman. (Try sleeping with a night light. It might help.)

Seems like weak tea as a justification for shredding a man’s reputation via paper-thin allegations and hearsay.

This was not meant to be justification for the accusations themselves. It was meant to show an incentive to want to bring the accusations forth.

 

[Ridgerunner]

This is an error in logic on your part. I proposed a reason why Gorsuch was not accused of sexual misconduct. That fact does not take a position one way or the other on Kavanaugh.

You said the distinction between Gorsuch and Kavanaugh was that Gorsuch didn’t get drunk and attempted to rape a girl in high school. If that’s a distinction, you’re saying Kavanaugh did. Live with it.

 

[Sarcelle]

The whole thing is a three ring circus. In spite of the title of the thing, the whole thing is making me glad I am no longer a Democrat.

I think Kavanaugh is a victim of a witch hunt.

 

[MikeInVA]

told by a woman who didn’t actually remember it herself, but only “remembered” it when a shrink persuaded her

You forgot to add that she’s been sitting on this new memory since 2012.

 

[Metis1]

And so then that crook Avenatti comes up with two more women whose stories are even more preposterous and don’t match up with anything real or realistic.

I’m with Geraldo Rivera on this one. He’s “pro choice” but admits the opposition to Kavanaugh is about abortion.

“So said” that you stoop so low as to call another person a “crook” even though it’s been established that it was he who was correct on the Stormy" situation. I’m not an Avenatti fan, nor a Rivera fan, but at least I don’t use name-calling nor am willing to jump to conclusions and make false accusations through prejudging.

This is a Catholic website, but what you are all too often doing is to ignore what the Church teaches in regards to both empathy and fairness. Please stop it.

 

[tomarin]

And here comes the white nationalism. “Oh my, the poor white guy.”

There were a number of posts on these threads yesterday asserting he must be guilty of something because of his background - no substantive evidence required - this is what I was alluding to. I’m in no way, shape or form a white nationalist or white supremacist - it feels quite bizarre and off-base that anyone would accuse me of that.

 

[Ridgerunner]

You are prejudicing the case by claiming they’re “bogus accusations”, so it’s clear you have no desire to seek the truth, whatever that may be.

I think it’s fairly well recognized now that “repressed memories” elicited by shrinks are bogus.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...04/we-dont-repress-painful-childhood-memories.

Repressed Memory | Harvard Magazine

Are some experiences so horrific that the human brain seals them away, only to recall them years later? The concept of “repressed...

www.harvardmagazine.com

This attack against Kavanaugh is totally based on the “repressed memories” of Ms. Ford. And it amazes me that anyone believes a word of it. I doubt the Dems believe it, but they just want to keep a possibly observant Catholic off the Court because he might vote against abortion.

 

[Victoria33]

What’s liberal about business and the free markets? Oh I get it. Now they have to report on effects of tariffs. Very liberal because they oppose Trump, the ultimate micromanager of commerce.

An editorial was posted. All I said was they would seem to lean left.

New York Times still has some good articles but editorials for NYT are definitely left-leaning though, they may have some “Conservative” columnists.

So, this only speaks to editorials.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

This is an error in logic on your part. I proposed a reason why Gorsuch was not accused of sexual misconduct. That fact does not take a position one way or the other on Kavanaugh.

You said the distinction between Gorsuch and Kavanaugh was that Gorsuch didn’t get drunk and attempted to rape a girl in high school. If that’s a distinction, you’re saying Kavanaugh did. Live with it.

No, I never presented it as a distinction between the two. I presented as reason other than being a Catholic that Democrats did not present someone with charges of sexual misconduct. There was simply no one making the charge. In the case of Kavanaugh, there is someone making the charge. That explains the Democrats actions. It says nothing about whether the charges are true.

 

[dvdjs]

I believe you once announced yourself a professor. If that was someone else, I apologize for calling you one.

Whatever my profession, which I have not announced, why do you ask about my personal experience with gender discrimination?

 

[HarryStotle]

ucfengr:

If the FBI missed Kavanaugh’s involvement in an organized rape ring during 6 separate investigations

I do not think anyone has claimed he was part of an organized rape ring. Have I missed that on the news?

When you spectate at a three ring circus someone should have warned you that you need to be ready to focus on more than one ring at a time.