Kavanaugh Drama Risks Driving Moderates, Women Away From GOP

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Dueling was legal when this country was founded, until not too long ago, you could challenge another man to step outside with you. Before spilling the blood of thousands of British soldiers, the Founding Fathers pledged their sacred honor. It seems they had a very different concept of male honor and rule of law than you do.
 
starshiptrooper said:
When talking about what Jesus would do, always remember that becoming righteously angry and driving out those who act dishonorably is a legitimate answer
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That has to be one of tritest of answers. He did that twice. He did that because of the holiness of God, of which he was in a unique position to understand. He did not do that over political ideology, or because he got his precious little feelings hurt. To us, he commanded:
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies​

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
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Until we understand the primacy of humility, emulating the mind of Christ as we read in Philippians 2, we are in no position to turn over tables, denounce the Pharisees of the day, or cry woe upon anyone. A man who is not first humble, is not much of a man.
 
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Both George Washington and Benjamin Franklin viewed dueling with great disdain, so no, there was no universal love of the duel. In Britain at the time, if Seldon enforced, was the law that one could be charged with murder if one killed one’s opponent in a duel.
 
dvdjs said:
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HarryStotle:
2+2 has no chance of ever being 5
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Google the statement to better understand it’s meaning.
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To quote Caiphas in Jesus Christ Superstar…

THAT is NOT an ANSWER!

Besides Google is unreliable, they would throw up pages that claim 2+2 does indeed equal 5 to push their leftist narrative.
 
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My aunt hasn’t stopped texting me over this… She was so angry to what they’ve done to Kavanaugh. I just can’t believe the general population though believes he actually assaulted Ford, the only evidence provided was Kavanaugh’s calendars from back then. I have no idea how he would have even kept those for decades. It’s ridiculous when one can simply claim something with no evidence and then completely ruin someone’s career and reputation. I thought you were innocent until proven guilty? Since when did the court of public opinion determine who’s guilty or not? Do facts don’t matter? If this can happen to Kavanaugh, then this can happen to any other man. Scary world. Sad how politics is always divide and conquer.
 
pnewton said:
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,…
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Given that both Ford and Kavanaugh are Catholic, which of the two have actually done this and have taught their children to do the same?

And which of the two have persecuted their “enemy” instead?
 
starshiptrooper said:
Dueling was legal when this country was founded, until not too long ago, you could challenge another man to step outside with you. Before spilling the blood of thousands of British soldiers, the Founding Fathers pledged their sacred honor. It seems they had a very different concept of male honor and rule of law than you do.
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@pnewton

I am in between the two of you. I think that people have a right to try to their good names, and a right to not be sinned against by slander and calumny.

But I must draw the line at dueling.
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It’s ridiculous when one can simply claim something with no evidence and then completely ruin someone’s career and reputation. I thought you were innocent until proven guilty? Since when did the court of public opinion determine who’s guilty or not? Do facts don’t matter? If this can happen to Kavanaugh, then this can happen to any other man. Scary world. Sad how politics is always divide and conquer.
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You are so right! This is precisely why so many are so concerned about this.

But politics does not have to be divide and conquer.
 
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jtwp5 said:
the only evidence provided was Kavanaugh’s calendars from back then.
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Since she can’t narrow it down more than the early to mid 80’s, his calendar is of no consequence.

Evidence would be if one of them kept a diary of the event itself.
 
You are not an American and so you are probably unaware of this point. I picked the phrase ‘sacred honor’ deliberately because it was used in the Declaration of Independence at end when the Founding Fathers pledged it in support of their new nation along with their lives and fortunes.

The Founding Fathers discussed these matters according to parliamentary procedure, voted, and then signed a document which they knew would result in more bloodshed. Truth is stranger than fiction.
 
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And then there are those who think that we should emulate Christ in all areas but these two.
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Christ spoke directly about his singular role in judging.
Nothing about ours, IIRC.
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Not so…

He explicitly denied that it was his role.
I do not judge anyone who hears my words and does not keep them, for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. (John 12:47)
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And just as explicitly put the onus on us to judge ”what is right."
54 He also said to the crowds, “When you see a cloud rising in the west, you immediately say, ‘It is going to rain’; and so it happens. 55 And when you see the south wind blowing, you say, ‘There will be scorching heat’; and it happens. 56 You hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of earth and sky, but why do you not know how to interpret the present time?

57 “And why do you not judge for yourselves what is right? 58 Thus, when you go with your accuser before a magistrate, on the way make an effort to settle the case, or you may be dragged before the judge, and the judge hand you over to the officer, and the officer throw you in prison. 59 I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the very last penny.” (Luke 12:54-59)
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And, ironically, we seem unable to judge what is right regarding a judge, so it seems we ought to make every effort to “settle this case” judiciously and not falsely lest we get “dragged before the judge” ourselves for making feckless judgements.
 
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They were hard men in a hard time. They tired of the dishonorable and evil treatment they endured, and so they fought to end it, doing whatever was necessary for that end.

Right now, we have a professor from Georgetown University openly wishing to kill white men, mutilate their bodies, and then feed them to pigs. People like that would gladly kill white men en masse because we are “nahtzees”. There are no pacts between lions and men.

In contrast my reference to Conan the Barbarian was mild, especially since the only cause feminists needed to lament was a refusal to act against an innocent man on the basis of slanderous accusations.

The Republicans need to set an example here by putting Ford in jail, swearing in Kavanaugh, and discussing the censure of certain senators. The Democrats need to know that their behavior is incompatible with a civilized society and will subject them to retaliation.
 
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starshiptrooper said:
The Republicans need to set an example here by putting Ford in jail, swearing in Kavanaugh, and discussing the censure of certain senators.
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The United States is not (yet) a totalitarian state that can put people in jail without evidence, ignore the rule of law, or punish political dissidents. I have to say though, I have seen in the last couple of years how such a state can arise.
 
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No we are far more civilized. We just slander people in public, wish to commit genocide against white men and try individuals we have political disagreements with in the court of public opinion.
 
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starshiptrooper said:
Dueling was legal when this country was founded, until not too long ago, you could challenge another man to step outside with you. Before spilling the blood of thousands of British soldiers, the Founding Fathers pledged their sacred honor. It seems they had a very different concept of male honor and rule of law than you do.
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Murder tends to be frowned upon by many, no matter how they define manhood.
 
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