Keep them at home

[Dale_M]

And what does ‘day of silence’ got to do with school ?

Have you even read the article?

the article:

GLSEN says its purpose in the Day of Silence and other activities it sponsors is to ensure safe schools for all students. It “envisions a world in which every child learns to respect and accept all people, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression.” A 2005 National School Climate Survey sponsored by the group claims that “4 out of 5 LGBT students report verbal, sexual or physical harassment at school and more than 30% report missing at least a day of school in the past month out of fear for their personal safety.”

 

[cathgal]

Kindly explain how a consensual act between adults equates to non-consensual acts between adults and/or minors unable to consent.

Fight?

I believe you’re losing the focal point and it is THE ACT. Immoral act.

Don’t prevent someone from ‘stoning’ if the the act is unrepented, or else, it’d be “I’m OK, you’re OK” kinda ****.

 

[Catholic90]

They have this at my kids’ Catholic high school. My kids are planning on going to school, but then talking all day! One of my son’s teachers is extremely liberal and I’m sure this is a cause that she is championing. He loves to stick it to her! I am sure he will be chatting away any chance he gets tomorrow! (Then he grins, so you CAN’T be mad at him! )

 

[cathgal]

GLSEN says its purpose in the Day of Silence and other activities it sponsors is to ensure safe schools for all students. It “envisions a world in which every child learns to respect and accept all people, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression.” A 2005 National School Climate Survey sponsored by the group claims that “4 out of 5 LGBT students report verbal, sexual or physical harassment at school and more than 30% report missing at least a day of school in the past month out of fear for their personal safety.”

*Oh I’m sure schools will be safe and every child will learn to respect after THEY have permeate all schools with their ‘King & king’ stuff. *
As if this is not enough, now they want a ‘day of silence’?

Respect and safe, I don’t deny, but exalting the abuse of LGBT (an immoral act really) as a ‘day of silence’ ??

Who they kidding ?

I can change that article to say something like…

*… its purpose in the Day of Silence and other activities it sponsors is to ensure safe environment for the unborn in a womb. It “envisions a world in which every child is a person, regardless if a child is yet to be born.” A 2005 National School Survey sponsored by the group claims that “4 out of 5 students believe that abortion is a right, especially a woman’s right to choose to kill a thing in her womb.”
*

 

[Mirdath]

I believe you’re losing the focal point and it is THE ACT. Immoral act.

I’m quite aware of it.

Don’t prevent someone from ‘stoning’ if the the act is unrepented, or else, it’d be “I’m OK, you’re OK” kinda ****.

Isn’t that the whole idea of Jesus stopping the rock-throwers? You do not get to stone people for their sins. Let God take care of it. By all means, speak your mind on the morality of the act – but to call people evil (which is, if you’ll recall, what got me started in this thread) is offensive, wrong, and decidedly un-Christian.

 

[Swan]

I’m quite aware of it.

Isn’t that the whole idea of Jesus stopping the rock-throwers? You do not get to stone people for their sins. Let God take care of it. By all means, speak your mind on the morality of the act – but to call people evil (which is, if you’ll recall, what got me started in this thread) is offensive, wrong, and decidedly un-Christian.

Thank you for this and your other posts on this thread.

 

[Humanum_Genus]

I’m quite aware of it.

Isn’t that the whole idea of Jesus stopping the rock-throwers? You do not get to stone people for their sins. Let God take care of it. By all means, speak your mind on the morality of the act – but to call people evil (which is, if you’ll recall, what got me started in this thread) is offensive, wrong, and decidedly un-Christian.

Oh, ok so we can call terrorists murderers and pedophiles evil, but we can’t call sodomites and sodomy promoters evil, i get it now.

Kindly explain how a consensual act between adults equates to non-consensual acts between adults and/or minors unable to consent.

Who said anything about consent, we’re talking about immorality, consent or not, if we can call terrorists murderers and pedophiles immoral, because they are, then we can also call sodomites immoral, because here is a news flash for you, they are.

You try to quote our Lord, you imply we shouldn’t judge sinners, but its seems to you its ok to judge pedophiles murderers and terrorists, but not sodomites.

So much for trying to quote our Lord.

Judge the act all you like. What I took exception to was Humanum Genus’ calling an entire class of people innately evil.

Why not? they are a class of people who define themselves by their sins.

If we can call an entire class of people( who are defined by their sins) like terrorists murderers and pedophiles evil, then we can do the same with other classes of people( who are also defined by their sins) like sodomites.

Its seems you want to give special treatment to sodomites, special treatment you refuse to give terrorists murderers and pedophiles.

Well, i don’t want to give any evil person special treatment, whether sodomite pedophile terrorist or murderer.

BTW, not all pedophiles rape children, some don’t. But make no mistake they are still pedophiles, they prefer to draw “cartoons”( often called hentai) of “naked children”. Others make stories or “novels” of pedophilia.

 

[Humanum_Genus]

Parents warned of ‘hate speech’ during ‘gay’ promo

Principal says support for homosexuality approved, but ‘condemnation’ banned

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Posted: April 25, 2008

Mass Resistance says hundreds of these pro-“gay” shirts have been distributed free to students in Massachusetts schools on the “Day of Silence”

A principal in a Massachusetts school district with a well-established reputation of promoting homosexuality to students has written to parents to tell them distributing “religious materials” during the school’s annual observance of the pro-homosexual “Day of Silence” is not appropriate.

The letter from Michael Jones of Lexington, Mass., High School also confirms “hate speech” is “subject to legal constraints” and messages communicated through slogan T-shirts, buttons or stickers that express “condemnation” are “discouraged.” Students with such a message will be counseled by school officials to meet the guidelines of the school handbook, he wrote

wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62485

And don’t forget about the day of purity

Tell all parents you know about it!!

dayofpurity.org/

Catholic90, you should complain to the school administration about your problem, this day of silence nonsense, shouldn’t be allowed in all schools, much less a Catholic school.

Tell your kids to keep up the good work, maybe they can quote some Scripture verses or some teachings from the Cathechism about sodomism while they’re talking to each other, that ought to get his teachers goat.

 

[cathgal]

I’m quite aware of it.

Isn’t that the whole idea of Jesus stopping the rock-throwers? You do not get to stone people for their sins. Let God take care of it. By all means, speak your mind on the morality of the act – but to call people evil (which is, if you’ll recall, what got me started in this thread) is offensive, wrong, and decidedly un-Christian.

You mean physically throwing stones at them?

Who does. I don’t think any poster in this forum means it that way, geez.

But you do realize that murderers, thieves, rapists, etc. do get persecuted for their crimes. Now are they stoned for their sins?

Why not let God take care of it.

What Jesus meant is that one does not go around physically stoning people for their sins, but he also said repent . People always seem to forget that last and important part of His message. This implies that we can chastise sins. How else will the sinner knows that he needs to repent.

 

[The_Barbarian]

Its seems you want to give special treatment to sodomites, special treatment you refuse to give terrorists murderers and pedophiles.

If you don’t see the difference between homosexual acts and murder or pedophilia, I’d have to say your moral compass is badly out of alignment.

The law is to protect people from other people, not to protect people from being evil.

 

[Humanum_Genus]

If you don’t see the difference between homosexual acts and murder or pedophilia, I’d have to say your moral compass is badly out of alignment.

The law is to protect people from other people, not to protect people from being evil.

The law is there to protect the rights of people and to punish the wicked in order to restrain evil.

If you do not see how immoral homophilia is, then it is your moral compass that is badly out of alignment, out of alignment with God’s teachings.

 

[leftistdestroye]

If you support this day of indoctrination, then you support this sin, and the sinner. There is absolutley no other way to see this. This type of situation, makes this lifestyle and behavior acceptable in America. For Catholics to support this, is like a fireman dumping gasoline on a fire he is trying to put out. While we quibble about loving the sinner but hating the sin, their behavior becomes more and more acceptable. New generations of people will grow up with this type of thing,(complancency) and no longer see the sin, and then our society will see the condonation of even more immoral and sinful acts. This DOS agenda, is but one brick in an immoral, sinful, and evil coup of our society.

I just saw this post here:

boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2007/11/11/easy_out/

“Emboldened by his friends’ casual reaction, Peck, a slim young man with curly brown hair, told his parents that he was gay. He was only 15. Their response was equally positive and accepting.”

“In the relative ease of his coming out, Russell Peck represents what one educator calls the “next wave” of gay and lesbian teenagers: adolescents who have grown up with openly gay teachers, television characters, neighbors, politicians, and even parents and who take for granted the acceptance that earlier generations struggled to achieve. After all, this year’s high school freshmen were in elementary school when gays began to marry in Massachusetts; for them, gay marriage is more status quo than radical.”

So, all you Catholics who condone this type of behavior, are just as guilty of making this sin, acceptable. You are inadvertantly accepting it. I am beginning to see just how closely related liberalism and Catholicism really are. And it scares me to death knowing how much we are contributing to the moral downfall of our society, instead of holding moral standards.

 

[The_Barbarian]

The law is there to protect the rights of people and to punish the wicked in order to restrain evil.

No, it is God’s place to punish the wicked. Laws are to protect people, not to do what is God’s right to do. Punishment under the law is only justified to prevent people from harming others.

If you do not see how immoral homophilia is

The Church says that it is not immoral, if you do not act on it. Chaste homosexuals are no more immoral than chaste unmarried heterosexuals.

then it is your moral compass that is badly out of alignment, out of alignment with God’s teachings.

I’m merely pointing out what the Church teaches. You will not accept that, for reasons we can only guess at.

 

[mysitar]

If you support this day of indoctrination, then you support this sin, and the sinner. There is absolutley no other way to see this. This type of situation, makes this lifestyle and behavior acceptable in America. For Catholics to support this, is like a fireman dumping gasoline on a fire he is trying to put out. While we quibble about loving the sinner but hating the sin, their behavior becomes more and more acceptable. New generations of people will grow up with this type of thing,(complancency) and no longer see the sin, and then our society will see the condonation of even more immoral and sinful acts. This DOS agenda, is but one brick in an immoral, sinful, and evil coup of our society.

I just saw this post here:

boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2007/11/11/easy_out/

So, all you Catholics who condone this type of behavior, are just as guilty of making this sin, acceptable. You are inadvertantly accepting it. I am beginning to see just how closely related liberalism and Catholicism really are. And it scares me to death knowing how much we are contributing to the moral downfall of our society, instead of holding moral standards.

There’s a huge difference between two people of the the same gender loving each other and not hurting anyone and a fireman (or terrorists for that matter) destroying people’s lives. I personally feel indifferent about the homosexual situation, but I do have friends that are homosexuals that are loyal, supportive, and just great people despite the fact they love someone of their own gender (though they’re not Catholic, so who am I to impose my beleifs on them…?)

 

[NewUlm1976_2000]

If you support this day of indoctrination, then you support this sin, and the sinner. There is absolutley no other way to see this. This type of situation, makes this lifestyle and behavior acceptable in America. For Catholics to support this, is like a fireman dumping gasoline on a fire he is trying to put out. While we quibble about loving the sinner but hating the sin, their behavior becomes more and more acceptable. New generations of people will grow up with this type of thing,(complancency) and no longer see the sin, and then our society will see the condonation of even more immoral and sinful acts. This DOS agenda, is but one brick in an immoral, sinful, and evil coup of our society.

I just saw this post here:

boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2007/11/11/easy_out/

So, all you Catholics who condone this type of behavior, are just as guilty of making this sin, acceptable. You are inadvertantly accepting it. I am beginning to see just how closely related liberalism and Catholicism really are. And it scares me to death knowing how much we are contributing to the moral downfall of our society, instead of holding moral standards.

This day is passed, but it was not a day of “indoctrination”, it was a day to work against poor treatment of students with same-gender preferences. Even the USCCB’s statements (look for sticky in MT or SJ) say discrimination of any kind should be avoided.

 

[leftistdestroye]

There’s a huge difference between two people of the the same gender loving each other and not hurting anyone and a fireman (or terrorists for that matter) destroying people’s lives. I personally feel indifferent about the homosexual situation, but I do have friends that are homosexuals that are loyal, supportive, and just great people despite the fact they love someone of their own gender (though they’re not Catholic, so who am I to impose my beleifs on them…?)

I was not drawing a comparrison to gays and firemen. The point was that as Catholics, how does it help the sinner OR be against the sin, if we condone their behavior by not speaking out against it?

Are you Catholic? If so, it is our obligation to remind people sin, who are about to sin. Why is it ok for them push acceptance in schools and such?

 

[leftistdestroye]

This day is passed, but it was not a day of “indoctrination”, it was a day to work against poor treatment of students with same-gender preferences. Even the USCCB’s statements (look for sticky in MT or SJ) say discrimination of any kind should be avoided.

Well, it is a lot more than that. It is about tolerance and acceptance. It is GLSEN.

OUR MISSION
The Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network strives to assure that each member of every school community is valued and respected regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression.

And if we tolerate this and accept it, then we are condoning sinful behavior. On a secular note, it is damaging to society as a whole. This whole bit falls under liberalism. Liberalism is socialism. This is just one brick in a socialist agenda.

 

[NewUlm1976_2000]

Well, it is a lot more than that. It is about tolerance and acceptance. It is GLSEN.

OUR MISSION
The Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network strives to assure that each member of every school community is valued and respected regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression.

And if we tolerate this and accept it, then we are condoning sinful behavior. On a secular note, it is damaging to society as a whole. This whole bit falls under liberalism. Liberalism is socialism. This is just one brick in a socialist agenda.

Sinful of valuing people?

Showing people basic respect is “condoning sinful behavior”?

No, they need to be respected, there are real people here. Even the USCCB says to show respect to people.

You seem extremely paranoid about “liberalism” to an unhealthy level.

 

[leftistdestroye]

NewUlm1976_2000;3668825]

Sinful of valuing people?

Showing people basic respect is “condoning sinful behavior”?

Yep. Because it is there to gain accpetance. I can tell a group of gays, that I am Catholic and do not like what they do, and am I to expect respect from them???

“Institute age-appropriate, factually accurate and inclusive curricula to help students understand and respect difference within the school community and society as a whole.”

And if they achieve this, is it not accpetance?

No, they need to be respected, there are real people here. Even the USCCB says to show respect to people.

These programs of “respect” have allowed more accpetance, and that I do not tolerate.

You seem extremely paranoid about “liberalism” to an unhealthy level.

It’s not paranoia, it’s fact.

1. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
2. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
3. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

**26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

1. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”**
2. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

neprimer.com/1963ComGoals.htm

 

[NewUlm1976_2000]

NewUlm1976_2000;3668825]

Yep. Because it is there to gain accpetance. I can tell a group of gays, that I am Catholic and do not like what they do, and am I to expect respect from them???

“Institute age-appropriate, factually accurate and inclusive curricula to help students understand and respect difference within the school community and society as a whole.”

And if they achieve this, is it not accpetance?

These programs of “respect” have allowed more accpetance, and that I do not tolerate.

It’s not paranoia, it’s fact.

1. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
2. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
3. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

**26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

1. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”**
2. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

neprimer.com/1963ComGoals.htm

Wait a minute, is all acceptance now “Communist”? How did we get from treating people with respect to calling them communists?

Treating people with respect, allowing more acceptance is happening and communism has nothing to do with it.