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dvdjs
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I presume that the planners of this attack did spend some time imagining what responses Iran might take, and that would include such things as proportionate drone attacks. If they did not think of such things, they are derelict of duty.
No. Your assumption seems to include the implicit idea that the imagining includes a hope for that outcome to happen. Since there is actually nothing in the post to such that idea, its suggestion would be grossly uncharitable.
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Why was Soleimani in Iraq? The reports coming out is that intelligence shows he was planning deadly attacks on Americans in Iraq. He was a bad actor. Trump isn’t going to allow Americans to be killed by Iran. If they want to retaliate, which we all know they will, then Iran will keep paying the price. There will never be peace with the current leadership in Iran, they hate America and always have and always will, nothing new…“Death to America”…their battle call for years.
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This is speculation but there is also this:
Iran might have been on their way, to ceasing more power in Iraq. That is why these officials might have been there. They made a misstep in having all of these officials together imho.
Iran might have been on their way, to ceasing more power in Iraq. That is why these officials might have been there. They made a misstep in having all of these officials together imho.
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on one hand we have military leaders planning a military action on valid military targets. on the other we have joe citizen imagining the death of people they simply disagree with. If you can not see the difference then you are truly blind.
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dvdjs
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Are you suggesting that @Khedron is hoping for the death for people that they disagree with, rather than expressing concerns about this consequences of this escalation? If the former, why? If the latter, why do you find it objectionable?
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dvdjs
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I am hopeful about such reports. it would mean that Trump has radically changed his posture towards US Intelligence, and that the strike may have been properly proportionate.
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"General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region. General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more. He had orchestrated attacks on coalition bases in Iraq over the last several months – including the attack on December 27th – culminating in the death and wounding of additional American and Iraqi personnel. General Soleimani also approved the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad that took place this week.
The US embassy in Iraq is 100 acres, for it to be attacked like it was, shows that it was a very well planned attack with a purpose behind it. Iran would like nothing better to destabilize a shaky Iraq and the current President.
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Ender
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Perhaps we no longer recognize “mature leadership” given that those who were last presumed to exhibit it gave us Benghazi. This action may turn out badly; I’m certainly in no position to know, or even guess, but neither am I inclined to wring my hands whenever the US takes a decisive action against our enemies.
I am unimpressed with statements like this from Elizabeth Warren:
Soleimani was a murderer, responsible for the deaths of thousands, including hundreds of Americans. But…
If anything can discourage attacks on Americans and our interests it is the certainty that such actions will not be tolerated.
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I am not sure what you mean by this, especially as you acknowledge that “this action may turn out badly”.
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Dr_Meinheimer
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Any action or inaction may turn out badly. That is never a defense for such action or inaction. If the reports coming out are accurate, this was a man who was responsible for many US deaths who was involved in planning many more. That would make this a prudent move, and one Americans historically would rally around. Precisely why the military exists is to help make decisions like this and take action to prevent US casualties. (Not that you have said otherwise).
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Victoria33
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And true or not, a lot of people say the Iran nuclear deal saw the previous administrations give absolute millions, billions to Iran to carry out their aims with.
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Salibi
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When a country cuts off the internet in order to prevent videos and photos of violent crackdowns from leaking to world media and impedes/bans foreign and local journalists from doing their jobs that’s called “stifling the media”.
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EndTimes
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Militarily, it’s part of a continuing provocations…
War? It’s been on… Just not up to Volume 6 or so…
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tomarin
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Something about raising fuel prices?
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EndTimes
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There’s been a huge ongoing warring mess over OIL . as we speak…
in nations such as Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iraq, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, EtCet…
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tomarin
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I was specifically talking about the public unrest in Iran.
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EndTimes
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Oh…
I can’t imagine that those demonstrators connect in any way with the prices of Global Crude; you?
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Victoria33
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I’ve certainly kept up with the demonstrations in Iran as far as that goes.
Iraqi protester shot dead as anti-regime rallies continue
The activist, Saadoun al-Luhaybi, was shot in the head in a southwestern neighbourhood of the Iraqi capital, the police source said.
Iran Abruptly Raises Fuel Prices, and Protests Erupt (Published 2019)
The timing of the announcement suggested an urgent scramble to fill a budget gap caused partly by severe American sanctions. Angry protests over the price increases soon followed.
Actually, the protests in Iran have been covered, over a thousand possibly mowed down. I have kept up with that.
Since some of the Gulf States are foes with Iran, you bet it has been covered, in fact, in Yemen, it’s been a bit of a proxy war:
https://english.alarabiya.net/#slide=2
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EndTimes
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It’s not the Demonstrators who caused that. It’s Iran
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