Killing Animals for "Sport"

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Marfran said:
No, I think that we have clarified that people hunt for different reasons. The question is whether it is ethical to kill animals, via hunting or other method, as a “sport” and for the “game” of it, sans any need of food, etc. Is hunting or killing animals for the enjoyment of the game, ego, or other psychological reasons ethically wrong?

If a deer hunter hunts to feed his family, or to participate in what he believes to be honest conservation culling, does he fall into a different category from the deer hunter who is just in it for the “sport” and the “game” of it? Who is only interested in how killing makes him feel, or in the ego of his success?
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Will you please answer my question: Do you see anything wrong with ethical, responsible hunting?
 
Marfran said:
Hunting exotics is exactly the topic. Is there a need to hunt exotics?? We are*** regulating them like livestock so that we can hunt them ***for the “sport” and “game” of it, in addition to the motivation of ego for the rare wall trophy.
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not to be even more off topic but I’ll answer the statement…

Exotics are regulated as livestock so they can be killed and eaten. Your are certainly bent on framing everything as unnecessary animal cruelty, unjustly.
 
vz71 said:
True, but the purpose of the hunt is not the kill.

Do not mistake the one aspect for the entire purpose.
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That is one purpose of the hunt. When I hunt, I hunt to kill. But I also hunt for enjoyment, population control, etc.
 
vz71 said:
There is no needless suffering in hunting.
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You are absolutely wrong about that. I have treated the numerous animals that have gotten away, and I assure you that they suffer terribly with gaping and infected wounds. Many times all we can do is humanely euthanize them after they have suffered in agony for sometimes days and weeks.
 
vz71 said:
No animals are purposely made to suffer and die needlessly in legitimate hunting.
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And hunting, sans the purpose of food or conservation, is legitimate? Hunting for the “game” of it is legitimate?
 
Marfran, will you please answer my question (post 338) -Thank you.

Hopefully this got your attention -it’s the fourth time I’ve asked:o
 
Marfran said:
You are absolutely wrong about that. I have treated the numerous animals that have gotten away, and I assure you that they suffer terribly with gaping and infected wounds. Many times all we can do is humanely euthanize them after they have suffered in agony for sometimes days and weeks.
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Really?
Let’s go back to my post and see what was really said…
vz71 said:
There is no needless suffering in hunting.
At least none that is purposely done.
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I bolded the pertinent part. The part you edited out. The part that alters what I have said when edited out.

You edited out the pertinent part of my quote to make it appear that I said something that I did not.
You are trying to deceive people. The edit of my post was dishonest.

And I would like an apology.
 
Marfran said:
You are absolutely wrong about that. I have treated the numerous animals that have gotten away, and I assure you that they suffer terribly with gaping and infected wounds. Many times all we can do is humanely euthanize them after they have suffered in agony for sometimes days and weeks.
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Again topic has floated into the topic of hunting in general not killing only for the pleasure of killing.

I’ll answer this as well…

humans are part of the food chain. God’s perfect creation includes events that are viewed by some as cruelty to animals including predation. Is it cruelty to the bottom of the food chain?

The question is, who is right, your imperfect opinion or God?
 
vz71 said:
Really?
Let’s go back to my post and see what was really said…

I bolded the pertinent part. The part you edited out. The part that alters what I have said when edited out.

You edited out the pertinent part of my quote to make it appear that I said something that I did not.
You are trying to deceive people. The edit of my post was dishonest.

And I would like an apology.
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Please read your post 328 to which I reponded too.
 
Sean_Boyle said:
Again topic has floated into the topic of hunting in general not killing only for the pleasure of killing.

I’ll answer this as well…

humans are part of the food chain. God’s perfect creation includes events that are viewed by some as cruelty to animals including predation. Is it cruelty to the bottom of the food chain?

The question is, who is right, your imperfect opinion or God?
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God is perfect. He created a wonderful world in which there was no killing. With the fall of Man, animals unfortunately have to suffer too as a consequence. God did not create violence and cruelty.
 
vz71 said:
So how did carnivores survive pre-fall without hunting down and killing something to eat?
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Please read about the creation. The lion lay down with the lamb, it did not eat it. God directed hat ws to be eaten.
 
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