Killing Animals for "Sport"

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I believe that the early Catholic Church did not allow clerics to hunt. Does anyone know when that changed? The Jewish religion does not allow hunting for sport, only food. Is that correct? Has that changed? (I seriously do not know the details–do any of our other posters know?)
Perhaps, you should address that question to Father John Corapi S.O.L.T.

He is a “big game” hunter. Lives in Wyoming, I believe. Lots of “big game” out there. Heck, he might even belong to the Safari Club, I don’t know.
 
Perhaps, you should address that question to Father John Corapi S.O.L.T.

He is a “big game” hunter. Lives in Wyoming, I believe. Lots of “big game” out there. Heck, he might even belong to the Safari Club, I don’t know.
Seems that you are finding all this so hilarious. I wonder how priests have so much time on their hands to go hunting. There’s church work, saying mass, visiting the sick and the dying, counseling.
 
Perhaps, you should address that question to Father John Corapi S.O.L.T.

He is a “big game” hunter. Lives in Wyoming, I believe. Lots of “big game” out there. Heck, he might even belong to the Safari Club, I don’t know.
Yes, but Fr. Corapi is not hunting them, he is trying to *convert *them (into sausage, ribs, flank steak, burgers, :D)
 
Perhaps, you should address that question to Father John Corapi S.O.L.T.

He is a “big game” hunter. Lives in Wyoming, I believe. Lots of “big game” out there. Heck, he might even belong to the Safari Club, I don’t know.
I didn’t know he hunts.😃
 
Seems that you are finding all this so hilarious. I wonder how priests have so much time on their hands to go hunting. There’s church work, saying mass, visiting the sick and the dying, counseling.
You must be a real joy to be around. I think it was St. Teresa of Avila, that something like “Lord, save me from your sour-puss saints” or something like that.
 
Yes, but Fr. Corapi is not hunting them, he is trying to *convert *them (into sausage, ribs, flank steak, burgers, :D)
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:rotfl::rotfl: Yes, and pretty successfully, from some of the pics that used to be floating around CAF.
 
You must be a real joy to be around. I think it was St. Teresa of Avila, that something like “Lord, save me from your sour-puss saints” or something like that.
Thank you. But please dont misquoth to suit yourself.
 
Seems that you are finding all this so hilarious. I wonder how priests have so much time on their hands to go hunting. There’s church work, saying mass, visiting the sick and the dying, counseling.
False Dichotomy.

Time spent at one activity does not necessitate taking time away from another.
 
Out of season, and illegal species happens in ***epidemic ***proportions. Check the logs of any wildlife rehab center or local DNR.

Hunters on this thread say it aint so–but it is. And though some perpetrators are caught, the vast majority are not.
I know illegal hunting takes place. But poaching by some is not an indictment for those who do not do this. Some of us do follow the laws and rules.
 
Seems that you are finding all this so hilarious. I wonder how priests have so much time on their hands to go hunting. There’s church work, saying mass, visiting the sick and the dying, counseling.
So are you saying that a priest or deacon cannot have anytime off for R & R?
 
I know illegal hunting takes place. But poaching by some is not an indictment for those who do not do this. Some of us do follow the laws and rules.
I’d also bet that the number of poachers compared to hunters is very small.
 
I’d also bet that the number of poachers compared to hunters is very small.
I definitely agree for this in the U.S. I honestly don’t know with regards to some other countries. That however, does not make us here is the U.S. the bad guys.
 
I’d also bet that the number of poachers compared to hunters is very small.
That would be my guess as well. When I was a kid, there was a lot of poaching,and you could hear the gunshots from it with considerable frequency. Farmers used to hang their inedible “trophies” from their fences and consume the edible ones. Now, it’s very rare to hear a high-powered gunshot except during hunting season. Of course, back when I was a kid there were bounties on coyotes and wolves as well, which are not there now. So it’s likely some of that shooting was due to bounty hunting. And, of course, predator numbers (as well as game numbers) have increased massively since I was a kid. For whatever reasons or combinations of reasons, there is nowhere near the hunting now that there was then.

I’ll admit I get nervous in the woods at night when I hear all those footfalls around me, gun in hand or not. You can tell which ones are canine by the sound. They stay just barely out of sight most of the time. But they sure do find you in a hurry. My son and son-in-law were treed once at night when they weren’t armed. Whether they were coyotes, red wolves, feral dogs or a combination thereof, they couldn’t tell. They would have probably been there until morning, except that another relative pulled up in a pickup truck, looking for them. The lights and engine sound evidently scared the critters away.

And, as rural areas go, this one is very heavily populated for a number of reasons, one of them being that it’s popular among retirees from all over who want “hobby farms” in a fairly decent climate. Lots of those folks don’t hunt. About the only active predator hunters are the deep country locals.

As far as I am concerned, I don’t really care very much about the motivations of those who shoot large predators. I only care about their success.
 
Seems that you are finding all this so hilarious. I wonder how priests have so much time on their hands to go hunting. There’s church work, saying mass, visiting the sick and the dying, counseling.
Priests deserve a vacation once in a while too!
 
I know illegal hunting takes place. But poaching by some is not an indictment for those who do not do this. Some of us do follow the laws and rules.
So for you who do follow the rules, what do you think about the poaching activity??? (That would be in addition to the illegal activity–like shooting down a red tailed hawk for the fun of it.)

Poaching bear in California and Canada is all about money. Poachers kill bear for “certain parts” used in Chinese medicine. The parts are sold on the black market and the rest of the carcass is left to rot. I bring this up because this is a serious problem, and the motivation for killing the bears is one of “greed,” and it is threatening the bear populations. People are not hunting them for “sport” or the “game” of it–just simple greed.

wildlife-conservation.suite101.com/article.cfm/bear_poaching_in_north_america
 
So for you who do follow the rules, what do you think about the poaching activity??? (That would be in addition to the illegal activity–like shooting down a red tailed hawk for the fun of it.)

Poaching bear in California and Canada is all about money. Poachers kill bear for “certain parts” used in Chinese medicine. The parts are sold on the black market and the rest of the carcass is left to rot. I bring this up because this is a serious problem, and the motivation for killing the bears is one of “greed,” and it is threatening the bear populations. People are not hunting them for “sport” or the “game” of it–just simple greed.

wildlife-conservation.suite101.com/article.cfm/bear_poaching_in_north_america
I understand. Lots of things are done out of greed; many not recognized as such. I do not, however, believe bears should be tolerated, let alone introduced, into populated areas. If the states or the feds want bigger parks for dangerous animals, then let them buy them and put fences around them. In the summer, I see kids all the time going blackberry picking. Bears also eat blackberries. In those patches, you often can’t see more than a few feet in any direction. I’m aware that black bears, more often than not, will retreat from humans. But they don’t always, and a bear can kill or maul a kid in no time at all. The state, however, introduces black bears into the countryside. Deep country hillbillies kill them when they can get away with it, and I don’t blame them a bit.
 
What does poaching have to do with this thread? It’s illegal and wrong, we all agree, right? Why don’t we discuss bank robbery while were at it…
 
What does poaching have to do with this thread? It’s illegal and wrong, we all agree, right? Why don’t we discuss bank robbery while were at it…
Well, maybe some people shoot bank robbers for sport.

Sorry for that, but I couldn’t resist. My own point, which has tended to wander off topic, and I apologize for that, is that animal control can be a serious problem. Those who shoot dangerous animals for “sport”; by which I understand that they do it to test their skill as a primary motivation, can and often do, serve a useful purpose to the rest of us. For some hunters, of course, “sport” is combined with a motivation to provide food for themselves or others, and I find that admirable.

Possibly, some think of the “sport” of hunting as “killing for the fun of killing”; something I find repugnant, but I suspect it’s rare. To those who want to engage in cruelty for its own sake, domestic animals are much handier. So are people.

So, since in my mind at least, most hunting is probably beneficial to human beings in one way or another, and since few hunters would be unaware of that fact, and since the “test of skill” imparts benefits to others most of the time, I see nothing wrong with what I see as a “mixed motivation” at worst.
 
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