Koran burning cancelled

[donsnow]

I’ve definitely noticed. It reinforces my belief that the USA should have as little to do with the middle east as possible. 9/11 deserved a response, but one that was immediate and decisive - not prolonged and uber-expensive.

I don’t usually like red neck viewpoint, but I’ll make an exception for what one ol’ Texas boy said on a local radio talk show, in 2003, “They knocked down two of our towers and we took two of their countries.”

I like that. All those upset Arabs, Parsi and Taliban can blame the 17 Muslim bandits on those four aircraft for bringing the might of the USofA down upon them. That’s the way I look at it.

I firmly believe, that what we do or do not do has little bearing on the Wahabbi, Taliban, etc. Their own hate filled hearts guide them against us, not what we do. They will use anything we do as an excuse for their modus operandi. But, all of their actions would have and will proceed, regardless of what we do or say. It’s not our fault. It’s because they are full of hate. It’s wrong for any human soul to hate other humans, for any reason.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

Well, if the churches will not do it apparently lone protestors will.

I’m waiting to see if the obama administration pursues charges against this man.

And just what would those charges be, in your esteemed opinion?

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

The “Church Militant” is the Church on the Earth today. That’s a description used by the Church itself, and distinguishes the Church here on the Earth from those who have gone before. Properly understood, it has no negative or military connotation. We, the Church Militant, have an obligation to testify to the truthfullness of the Gospel.

This is something that everyone should have learned as part of their Catholic education.

I spent 18+ years in catholic education and I never heard that term before.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

No, it’s not. But nobody wants to hear that. Calling it the “Ground Zero Mosque” is just so nicely inflammatory, dontcha know.

It does sound more inflammatory than the old burlington coat factory.

 

[GeoCyclist]

“They knocked down two of our towers and we took two of their countries.”
I like that.

America hasnt taken two countries. Afghanistan and Iraq are a mess, American has spent billions and billions of taxpayers dollars chasing their tail, and in the end, the Taliban and the Afghanis and Iraqis will just carry on, business as usual. It will be all for nothing.

 

[jmcrae]

I spent 18+ years in catholic education and I never heard that term before.

That’s astounding. It’s one of the first things I learned in RCIA - the three elements of the Church are, Church Militant (Christians alive on earth), Church Suffering (Souls in Purgatory), and Church Triumphant (Saints in Heaven).

The Four Marks of the Church are: One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.

 

[vz71]

Well, if the churches will not do it apparently lone protestors will.

I’m waiting to see if the obama administration pursues charges against this man.

There is no crime committed, so there are no charges to pursue. This is a First Amendment issue.

The last speech I watched from Obama placed these actions as directly placing our troops in danger.
It sounded very much like someone trying to lay groundwork for legal intervention into free speech.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

The last speech I watched from Obama placed these actions as directly placing our troops in danger.
It sounded very much like someone trying to lay groundwork for legal intervention into free speech.

He stated a fact. the actions are placing our troops in danger.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

That’s astounding. It’s one of the first things I learned in RCIA - the three elements of the Church are, Church Militant (Christians alive on earth), Church Suffering (Souls in Purgatory), and Church Triumphant (Saints in Heaven).

The Four Marks of the Church are: One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.

The four marks I do know. May I asked when you started FCIA? I truly never heard this. At least, I don’t remember ever hearing it. As a student of language it would have piqued my curiosity.

 

[Califman831]

Not sure what Catholic Church you were raised in…geez louise. I never thought of the Church as “Militant”.

The same church that blessed knights on their way to battle the muslims (i.e. the crusades).

If you want a country run by religion…move to the Middle East. And please, let us know how that is workin’ out for ya.

I rather move to the Vatican.

…Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won’t be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after…
One tin soldier rides away.

Great a hippie, I thought you were all burned out on pcp or pushing up daisies.

 

[vz71]

He stated a fact. the actions are placing our troops in danger.

He stated opinion.

The muslim world protests one thing or another every day.

The fact that they now have something tangible to be angry about in no way means that our troops are in any greater or lesser threat.

 

[Catherine_D]

I spent 18+ years in catholic education and I never heard that term before.

One of the biggest problems facing the Church today is poorly catechized members of the Church.

I one year of RCIA, I learned this and other terms. It would seem you need to do some study about your faith.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

The same church that blessed knights on their way to battle the muslims (i.e. the crusades).

I rather move to the Vatican.

…Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won’t be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after…

One tin soldier rides away.

Great a hippie, I thought you were all burned out on pcp or pushing up daisies.

Then you may be surprised.

 

[Julianna]

The same church that blessed knights on their way to battle the muslims (i.e. the crusades).

Ah, the crusades. A great moment in history of the Church. Kind of tied with the inquisition or American slavery.

I rather move to the Vatican.

I recommend Travelocity…great ticket prices.

…Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won’t be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after…
One tin soldier rides away.

Great a hippie, I thought you were all burned out on pcp or pushing up daisies.

Actually, I was only 11 at the time of Woodstock. And pcp was the drug of choice in the late 70’s early 80’s. Glad you have your crystal ball out and shined up to know “what I am”.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

One of the biggest problems facing the Church today is poorly catechized members of the Church.

I one year of RCIA, I learned this and other terms. It would seem you need to do some study about your faith.

That’s why I’m asking when you were trained. I went to a Catholic school right through graduate school. I now teach in a catholic school and have at least 30 hours of additional training. You went to RCia for a year and you are telling me?

 

[Califman831]

One of the biggest problems facing the Church today is poorly catechized members of the Church.

I one year of RCIA, I learned this and other terms. It would seem you need to do some study about your faith.

newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm crusades
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_militant church militant

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Basel, 1434: “… there is hope that very many from the abominable sect of Mahomet will be converted to the Catholic faith.”

Pope Callixtus III: “I vow to… exalt the true Faith, and to extirpate the diabolical sect of the reprobate and faithless Mahomet [Islam] in the East.”

 

[vz71]

I spent 18+ years in catholic education and I never heard that term before.

That’s why I’m asking when you were trained. I went to a Catholic school right through graduate school. I now teach in a catholic school and have at least 30 hours of additional training. You went to RCia for a year and you are telling me?

What exactly did you spend 18+ years studying?
Surely if it was the church you would be familiar with the term.

And what precisely do you teach in Catholic school? If it is religion, I have a serious issue with this rather large gap in knowledge of the church.
Other subjects, I doubt such a gap would really be an issue.

But just the same…
My wife learned of the church militant in pre marriage counciling.

 

[Via_Dolorosa]

newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm crusades
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_militant church militant

Thank you for the sources
These terms are not used in the modern Catechism of the Catholic Church, the authoritative collection of the teaching of Roman Catholicism, first published in 1994. Many contemporary Catholics might consider them belonging to another age.

it does seem an antiquated term.

 

[vz71]

Thank you for the sources
These terms are not used in the modern Catechism of the Catholic Church, the authoritative collection of the teaching of Roman Catholicism, first published in 1994. Many contemporary Catholics might consider them belonging to another age.

it does seem an antiquated term.

Don’t you think it would have been polite to include the bibliographic information on your quote?

 

[Califman831]

Thank you for the sources
These terms are not used in the modern Catechism of the Catholic Church, the authoritative collection of the teaching of Roman Catholicism, first published in 1994. Many contemporary Catholics might consider them belonging to another age.

it does seem an antiquated term.

I was born before its publication and will reference it only as far as it follows the actual catechism I find a few parts of the new version to be a betrayal of the catholic faith either through ambiguity or blatant error.