Kramer Is A Racist

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Saint_Michael said:
Am I alright? What are you talking about? Or was that just an attempt to insult me for no reason?

Anyway can you provide a link to back that up everything I heard about him was he is an Italian American who lived in a communce or something after Vietnam.

You’re claiming he’s Jewish I’m simply asking for soemthing to back that up because I ahven’t been able to find anything to verify that.
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“Saint Michael”, just his name will give you a clue. Another clue is the media…😃
 
bella5110 said:
“Saint Michael”, just his name will give you a clue. Another clue is the media…😃
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So you can’t provide a link stating he’s Jewish then?

Unless you can I suggest the thread be closed because you’ve speculated an awful lot without providing requested documentation.

How about this, less smiley faces, more actual documentation?👍
 
Saint_Michael said:
So you can’t provide a link stating he’s Jewish then?

Unless you can I suggest the thread be closed because you’ve speculated an awful lot without providing requested documentation.

How about this, less smiley faces, more actual documentation?👍
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Um, in fairness, you haven’t provided any documentation that he’s Italian.

Still, I did manage to find this site. I’m not sure that it is authoritative, but it is true that he was referred to as being Jewish on Fox news.

christianparty.net/wm/wm0133a.html
 
Peter_DiMitri said:
And, just for arguments sake, why should slurs against blacks be more acceptable than slurs against Jews (at least by your reasoning)? Is that something you are advocating as being a correct stance? I ask since you brought it up.
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no I do not advocate it…but I do see that comments against jews are dealt with more harshly than comments against blacks…why I do not know.
 
Saint_Michael said:
So you can’t provide a link stating he’s Jewish then?

Unless you can I suggest the thread be closed because you’ve speculated an awful lot without providing requested documentation.

How about this, less smiley faces, more actual documentation?👍
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Saint, THE GUY IS JEWISH. PERIOD.
 
bella5110 said:
no I do not advocate it…but I do see that comments against jews are dealt with more harshly than comments against blacks…why I do not know…
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Maybe because Mel Gibson is a million times more famous and important in Hollywood than Kramer from Seinfeld? Holy cow with the paranoia. If Mel Gibson called the Cop the N word and stated the threats Kramer did it would’ve been even worse for him.
 
bella5110 said:
Saint, THE GUY IS JEWISH. PERIOD.
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I still haven’t seen anything on it yet, it’s simple before stating the things you are you should provide evidence he’s Jewish. I read he’s either Italian or Scottish, but I won’t make the claim to back up any argument because I don’t trust the source. I can’t state it for a fact, if it was taken that way I retract it.
 
Saint, I cannot speak with you anymore. Maybe you should listen to Peter…
 
Saint_Michael said:
I still haven’t seen anything on it yet, it’s simple before stating the things you are you should provide evidence he’s Jewish. I read he’s either Italian or Scottish, but I won’t make the claim to back up any argument because I don’t trust the source. I can’t state it for a fact, if it was taken that way I retract it.
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
bella5110 said:
Saint, I cannot speak with you anymore. Maybe you should listen to Peter…
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Peter’s site is blocked by my filter as a denied site.

Don’t speak to me then, all I did was ask for corraboration that he’s Jewish (still received nothing). I think that’s more than fair, if we’re going to lay accusations let’s make sure we have the facts right. You’re the one patronizing me the entire thread with the smileys and what not. I asked for simple corroboration via a link or something.
 
bella5110 said:
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Unless you can prove he’s actually Jewish before these accusations of the Jewish media downplaying the episode, then I suggest you spend less time using emoticons and more time on Google.
 
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Saint_Michael said:
Peter’s site is blocked by my filter as a denied site.

Don’t speak to me then, all I did was ask for corraboration that he’s Jewish (still received nothing). I think that’s more than fair, if we’re going to lay accusations let’s make sure we have the facts right. You’re the one patronizing me the entire thread with the smileys and what not. I asked for simple corroboration via a link or something.
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What is wrong with you???:confused: :confused:
 
bella5110 said:
🙂

What is wrong with you???:confused: :confused:
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That’s twice you’ve asked me that, nothing is wrong with me at all. What’s wrong with you? I’m simply saying before laying wild eyed accusations you should be able to at least verify that the guy in question is actually Jewish. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to request references on a message board when accusations are being thrown around.
 
Saint_Michael said:
Peter’s site is blocked by my filter as a denied site.

Don’t speak to me then, all I did was ask for corraboration that he’s Jewish (still received nothing). I think that’s more than fair, if we’re going to lay accusations let’s make sure we have the facts right. You’re the one patronizing me the entire thread with the smileys and what not. I asked for simple corroboration via a link or something.
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Too bad. Peter is a good Catholic. Catholics stand up for one another…why don’t you go on the link provided “Saint”? The one Peter has posted from Fox, then you can come back terribly embarrassed.
 
bella5110 said:
Too bad. Peter is a good Catholic. Catholics stand up for one another…why don’t you go on the link provided “Saint”? The one Peter has posted from Fox, then you can come back terribly embarrassed.
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The link Peter provided is NOT from Fox …
christianparty.net/wm/wm0133a.html

The only thing Peter Said about Fox was this…
Still, I did manage to find this site. I’m not sure that it is authoritative, but it is true that he was referred to as being Jewish on Fox news
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bella5110 said:
Too bad. Peter is a good Catholic. Catholics stand up for one another…why don’t you go on the link provided “Saint”? The one Peter has posted from Fox, then you can come back terribly embarrassed.
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I won’t be embarrassed I’ll accept that he’s Jewish and move on. I will still disagree with you that it has anything to do with anything. This incident won’t be as big a deal as Gibson for oen Gibson wears his faith on his sleeve, and two Gibson is a million times more powerful than Cosmo Kramer. The only one that has to be embarassed in this thread is you for thinking it is anything more than that.

The link isn’t from FOX and I already said that I can’t open it it’s blocked by my companies firewall.
 
Karin said:
is that the only criteria to be a good catholic?
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Maybe that is even up for grabs. It seems when bella does not like a question posed, rather than answer it she tells people off. Like on Valke2’s thread where I was instructed by her commandant that I should not post “if I dont understand”:rolleyes:

So who knows.
 
Michael Richards was not drunk, but he was on stage, doing an act. Generally from what I’ve seen of comedians handling hecklers it that they begin to insult and belittle the heckler and get the rest of the audience to laugh at them in order to embarrass and make them shut up. This was his lame attempt at doing so, it went terribly awry, and he was not able to recover afterwards. I really believe the reason he went there the way he did was because he does not feel this way towards black folk at all, he was just putting on an act. In these days when offensive humor is the norm, it doesn’t suprise me. If a black comedian were to make the same joke, it would be a joke, no one would take it to mean what we think Michael Richards meant, because he’s a white guy. I’m not excusing him, I just think the reason he made the mistake he did is because he was going into an offensive character onstage without thinking about exactly how offensive it would really be coming from him in particular as a white fella. And I believe he made the mistake because he is genuinely not a racist, and so he had never thought about himself being put in that sort of light. I saw the entire apology on Letterman last night, and he really does seem torn up about it, and I’m not so cynical as to believe that it’s only because he and Jerry Sienfeld are worried about loosing money. I think he’s sorry in his heart to have this representation of him exist in the world now. It will probably be a heavy burden for him to live with the rest of his life, and again not because of how it will affect his career, but because it’s just not how he feels. He seemed very confused, and sad, and I feel extremely sorry for him (yes, I feel extremely sorry for him, even though he has a lot of money, and a previously envious career).
 
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