Kudo's to Our Priests! (or Scrupulous Attention to the New Translation?)

[TimothyH]

I have noticed, and would think that many here would be delighted, that priests are being especially attentive, scrupulous even, to the rubrics and texts of the New Translation. I noticed the priests at my Church taking time to do it right, reading the texts carefully during Mass, saying the worlds of the new translation correctly, and making sure that they get it right. Though they still are in an awkard phase, I appreciate their effort.

Our senior pastor likes two sacramentaries - now called roman missal - when he says Mass. He likes the big, ornate one brought to the altar for the liturgy of the Eucharist, but likes a smaller chapel size roman missal on the small table next to the presider’s chair. The altar server will hold the smaller missal for the collect and other prayers. But while setting up for Mass Thursday evening, I noticed that there was no new chapel missal, only the huge Church sized book. I mentioned it to him before the Mass, that I couldn’t find the smaller book, and he said that the priests had it back at the rectory and were using it to practice. Inquiring futher, apparently the priests are practicing and rehersing in what little spare time they have.

I think the new translation has, or will have, a side effect - intended or unintended - that of drawing priest’s attention to the correct words and rubrics, with the potential result being more consistency from Mass to Mass, from priest to priest, and from parish to parish. Those who are sensitive to liturgical inconcistencies have reason to be hopeful IMO.

I for one appreciate the hard work our priests are doing and believe that for this and other reasons, the new translation is more imporant and historic than many of us realize.

-Tim-

 

[YoungTradCath]

I think the new translation has, or will have, a side effect - intended or unintended - that of drawing priest’s attention to the correct words and rubrics, with the potential result being more consistency from Mass to Mass, from priest to priest, and from parish to parish. Those who are sensitive to liturgical inconcistencies have reason to be hopeful IMO.

I for one appreciate the hard work our priests are doing and believe that for this and other reasons, the new translation is more imporant and historic than many of us realize.

Interesting and agreeable observations. I hope this is what happens. I’ve also been debating the historicness of the new translation.

 

[Aelred_Minor]

I definitely saw this at my parish. As I mentioned on another thread, there were two places, one a people’s part and one the priest’s at the end of the consecration, in which we were quite clearly doing it wrong at my parish, but with the new translation both have been corrected despite the changes not being relevant to either problem.

 

[po18guy]

Interesting and agreeable observations. I hope this is what happens. I’ve also been debating the historicness of the new translation.

Have a look at this article. Prof. Anthony Esolen is an English professor and approached the translation from a linguistic standpoint. Not being familiar with the Latin prayers, I had no idea how watered down and nebulous the recently replaced prayers actually were. We are much better off now.

 

[po18guy]

Our 67 year old Preist is stoked over the -]changes/-] improvements. I note that he now proclaims “Behold the Lamb of God” rather than “This is the Lamb of God”. I think that many Priests are using this as an opportunity to tune up the liturgy. We are now compelled to pay full attention to the liturgy. Good!

 

[YoungTradCath]

Our 67 year old Preist is stoked over the -]changes/-] improvements. I note that he now proclaims “Behold the Lamb of God” rather than “This is the Lamb of God”. I think that many Priests are using this as an opportunity to tune up the liturgy. We are now compelled to pay full attention to the liturgy. Good!

I’ve read that article you quoted above. It was excellent.

Yes, my priest is certainly using this as an opportunity to tune up the liturgy in other areas. For example, he has started chanting the Preface Dialogue and the Preface. He said that in the coming months, more and more of the mass will be chanted until all of it that can be chanted is chanted. I hope Latin is reintroduced, at least in part. The parish is quite traditional compared to the average, so I don’t see why it would be a problem.

 

[po18guy]

I’ve read that article you quoted above. It was excellent.

Yes, my priest is certainly using this as an opportunity to tune up the liturgy in other areas. For example, he has started chanting the Preface Dialogue and the Preface. He said that in the coming months, more and more of the mass will be chanted until all of it that can be chanted is chanted. I hope Latin is reintroduced, at least in part. The parish is quite traditional compared to the average, so I don’t see why it would be a problem.

It is an exciting time to be Catholic. A lot of the Priests are encouraged by the improvements and restorations that are occurring. Look at the good, orthodox Archbishops and where they are being sent. We are in the midst of an internal reformation. Amen!

 

[TimothyH]

Our 67 year old Preist is stoked over the -]changes/-] improvements. I note that he now proclaims “Behold the Lamb of God” rather than “This is the Lamb of God”. I think that many Priests are using this as an opportunity to tune up the liturgy. We are now compelled to pay full attention to the liturgy. Good!

Yes, this is what I mean. The priests are paying attention and tuning it up. And the people pay attention more, and it feeds on itself.

By the way, you can get a Sunday hand missal for $1.94 from St. Joe’s. See catholicbookpublishing.com/ShowProduct.aspx?ProductID=854&DepartmentID=15

-Tim-

 

[po18guy]

Yes, this is what I mean. The priests are paying attention and tuning it up. And the people pay attention more, and it feeds on itself.

By the way, you can get a Sunday hand missal for $1.94 from St. Joe’s. See catholicbookpublishing.com/ShowProduct.aspx?ProductID=854&DepartmentID=15

-Tim-

DW already ran out and bought me a St. Joseph 2012 Missal, as well as Dr. Edward Sri’s reference card for the new missal. Bless her heart!

Being baptized in 1987 (won’t say at what age…), I have never been exposed to anything but the recently reeplaced prayers. While some at CAF poo poo what they see as mere “changes”, the new and improved prayers are far better.

 

[Neicy1951]

I think my pastor Father Ron did a wonderful job this week with the new translation and I made a point of complimenting him, since the priest’s changes are not only more extensive, but they also skip around more than those who follow in the missals in the pews. To me it seems similar to the translation that was in the Latin-English missals pre-Vatican II, and I prefer the new translation. It was interesting to see how many people actually looked at the pew cards and how many didn’t and continued to respond by habit. Then again that has been a major sore npoint for me since returning the second time around.