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Nah, my sister would not be a reliable source, even for me. That’s why I asked whether anyone else knew anything about that. Are those your daughters? Beautiful!
***lol–that’s funny. I will google it tomorrow though, when I find time…might be worth at least checking into. I don’t imagine that though, that would have made the news I would think?Nah, my sister would not be a reliable source, even for me. That’s why I asked whether anyone else knew anything about that. Are those your daughters? Beautiful!
whatevergirl;5142621The sig pic is of me and my dd. :slight_smile: Have a blessed night–it was nice chatting. ** [/quote said:Oh my gosh!!! The two of you look like you could be sisters!!!![]()
***Aw, you guys are sweet…thank you. It must be my stress-free life I lead. :whacky:Isn’t that the truth! I wonder whether either on of them is wearing makeup.![]()
I couldn’t agree more…I never thought this thread would have so many posts. Very fascinating indeed. I have been told that it was VERY wise of me to limit this thread to the ladies, and I can see why. However, I do feel compelled to give a man’s perspective and a few observations:
I wanted to learn from people here who have a “moral” objection to cosmetics, make up and their reasons for it.
I would like to share something about that.
If we cut ourselves, we put a band-aid on. The band-aid conceals the blemish, not the body that God created.
If we have acne problems, is it wrong to use products that remove acne? Acne is not something that we create ourselves and certainly we can look better without it.
For myself, good makeup accentuates natural beauty. It does not conceal how we look but conceals (band-aid) perhaps what isn’t always so good.
The issue here is it okay to want to look physically beautiful. Some people don’t need make up to look that way. They don’t have sun damage or acne or whatever. The fact that there are some that are natural beauties, should tell you what God thinks about it.
Well said.I have a sister who spends two hours a day putting on makeup. She confesses she would not run away from a fire with a bare face. Mama puts on makeup before she leaves the house every day and she is 81.
I have never worn makeup (or makeDOWN as they called it in charm school), first because of my eyesight, and second because I never had any desire to attract a man, which i believe (unless you have scars or skin flaws) is the only reason to wear war paint. This is only my own opinion and applies only to me. My hair went white at the age of 25 and I have it professionally coloured because I like the way it looks…and because Mama got tired of hearing people say Why, I had no idea you had children that old!
It is a matter of individual style and I would never presume to tell another woman how to express her style. Particularly if both she and her husband are happy with that style.
Hm, I seem to remember a guy named Paul saying something about busybodies …And by the way, those busybodies who bustle up to me in Wal-Mart or Saks and think I will thank them for telling me I would look much better if I would shorten my skirts, lose some weight and paint my face, ought to be ashamed of themselves. There ought to be a special commandment against being a busybody.
Anyway… just sharing my story of conversion on this subject…Code:"When you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites. They neglect their appearance, so that they may appear to others to be fasting. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face, so that you may not appear to be fasting, except to your Father who is hidden. And your Father who sees what is hidden will repay you.
I see where you’re coming from Em, but I just get a bit leery when I see “neglect their appearance” in connection with wearing makeup (or not).Wow this is a really interesting thread!
Aside from my original post (mentioning it’s best to steer clear of both extremes of vanity and judgment)… I’ll share my personal experience…
I was judgmental in high school- but I would have never thought of myself like that at the time.
Time and age have taught me a lot.
At the time I looked on everyone spiritually, which isn’t a bad thing in and of itself, but I JUDGED them by their spiritual appearance. I isolated myself with people who I believed were the “holy” kids in school. I was adamantly against any outward sign of vanity. I was not wise enough to understand that there could be a happy medium of faith and appearance. I tried to *appear *like how St. Therese lived - a SIMPLE spirituality (ie NO MAKEUP!), but in reality it was for *others *to see!
I’ve gained a little perspective over time… getting to know people better on a more personal level - including MANY of those people who weren’t “holy” enough to be friends with in high school. These people weren’t being VAIN, they were just blending in, trying to feel comfortable in their own skin - maybe even having *more *of that TRUE “St. Therese spirituality” of not being noticed (or at least trying to look like everyone else) than I did!This revelation was a shocker to me.
So yes, I wear makeup. My mom sells Mary Kay and buys it for me and my siblings as a gift.I wear very simple makeup, trying to highlight my features without looking gaudy. I have NO desire to look desirable to men other than my husband, and I know very well that he finds me beautiful with and without makeup. I work in a professional environment and need to be taken seriously in order to help financially support my family. I like to have a pleasing image to others when they stop me in the grocery store and say “Hey, I saw you at Easter Mass!” - little conversations like that may inspire that person to want to go to Mass more often than JUST at Easter perhaps. Image CAN play an important role in sharing our faith!
Even the Gospel mentions:
"When you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites. They neglect their appearance, so that they may appear to others to be fasting. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face,
so that you may not appear to be fasting, except to your Father who is hidden. And your Father who sees what is hidden will repay you.
Anyway… just sharing my story of conversion on this subject…
She said it much better and more succinctly than I can, so I’ll let her quote stand on its own.I have no problem with any of the comments about good grooming and the messages that sends about how we live our Christian lives, but make up is not an essential part of good grooming. (I don’t regard make-up to cover birth marks or sun damage as “make up” in the sense that is being discussed here.) If a woman feels better groomed for wearing make up, good for her and she should wear it. An immaculately-dressed woman without makeup, however, is just as “well groomed” as one with makeup.
I was just sharing my *personal *experience.I see where you’re coming from Em, but I just get a bit leery when I see “neglect their appearance” in connection with wearing makeup (or not).
I agree with your whole post, but I just wanted to say that make-up itself is neutral, does not exist in a moral sphere. The reasons and motivationspeople have when they choose to wear/not wear it DO exist in the moral sphere, and in that sense may or may not be moral. But since no human person can know if a person’s reasons for doing something are moral/immoral, we must just leave it at: you can wear makeup or not, it’s your choice! and I think this thread has amply showed that!I wanted to learn from people here who have a “moral” objection to cosmetics, make up and their reasons for it.
As a follow up to that, check this out: listverse.com/bizarre/10-bizarre-beauty-products/***lol–that’s funny. I will google it tomorrow though, when I find time…might be worth at least checking into. I don’t imagine that though, that would have made the news I would think?
The sig pic is of me and my dd.Have a blessed night–it was nice chatting. ***
Ouch. This reminds me of me. It was both humiliating and eye-opening to read the journal I kept when I was fourteen years old… when I was pretty satisfied with how ‘holy’ I was. Ikes.I was judgmental in high school- but I would have never thought of myself like that at the time.
Time and age have taught me a lot.
At the time I looked on everyone spiritually, which isn’t a bad thing in and of itself, but I JUDGED them by their spiritual appearance. I isolated myself with people who I believed were the “holy” kids in school. I was adamantly against any outward sign of vanity. I was not wise enough to understand that there could be a happy medium of faith and appearance. I tried to *appear *like how St. Therese lived - a SIMPLE spirituality (ie NO MAKEUP!), but in reality it was for *others *to see!![]()
Wow, it’s amazing the lengths some will go to for beauty. I think it is such a shame that society puts so much importance on a person’s physical beauty rather than the spiritual. I used to do this in my teens and early 20’s but have since grown out of it, or at least I hope I have.As a follow up to that, check this out: listverse.com/bizarre/10-bizarre-beauty-products/
I truly hope that I didn’t give anyone the impression of bragging or vanity here. That wasn’t my intention. I was just trying to point out that with proper sun protection then wrinkles, sunspots and skin cancer become much less of an issue. Then a person doesn’t have to resort to such extreme beauty treatments as the ones described in the list.Well, one of the best “beauty treatments” I can highly recommend is sunscreen, lots and lots of sunscreen. I’m 37 and most people are very surprised when they learn my age. When my 20 year old daughter and I are together we are often mistaken for sisters and people are completely floored to learn I am a grandmother. I’m totally certain it comes from my determination to protect my skin from overexposure to the sun.