Latin returning to Mass

[ComradeAndrei]

I think too many people have bought into the lie that unless you are a Latin scholar, you are too stupid to follow along at a Latin Mass so let’s throw it all away and use the vernacular. Also, since people tend to be lazy (we all do), no one is really all that fired up about trying to throw off the shackles of the vernacular and reintroduce Latin in general use.

Using a missal is easy, also, it would not be a problem to make an English(or any other language)/Lain missal for the Novus Ordo Mass. I really think people should get back into the practice of using an actual missal and get rid of those little disposable “missalettes”.

Another thing I really lament is that symbol of unity we got from having a universal language and a universal way of saying the Mass-the Mass was the exact same no matter where you went in the world at your standard Latin Rite Catholic Church. The language was the same, the prayers and gestures were the same, small allowances made for local custom.

Now you can’t hardly drive across town and see the same thing. That is pretty sad.

 

[arieh0310]

ComradeAndrei:

Using a missal is easy, also, it would not be a problem to make an English(or any other language)/Lain missal for the Novus Ordo Mass.

This is what I use to follow along with my Latin Novus Ordo. I am a recent convert, it only took a few masses to get the hang of things.

 

[InnocentIII]

ComradeAndrei:

I think too many people have bought into the lie that unless you are a Latin scholar, you are too stupid to follow along at a Latin Mass so let’s throw it all away and use the vernacular. Also, since people tend to be lazy (we all do), no one is really all that fired up about trying to throw off the shackles of the vernacular and reintroduce Latin in general use.

Using a missal is easy, also, it would not be a problem to make an English(or any other language)/Lain missal for the Novus Ordo Mass. I really think people should get back into the practice of using an actual missal and get rid of those little disposable “missalettes”.

Another thing I really lament is that symbol of unity we got from having a universal language and a universal way of saying the Mass-the Mass was the exact same no matter where you went in the world at your standard Latin Rite Catholic Church. The language was the same, the prayers and gestures were the same, small allowances made for local custom.

Now you can’t hardly drive across town and see the same thing. That is pretty sad.

I agree. We have Benediction each Sunday evening and I finally persuaded father to abondon “O Sacrament most holy” and try “Adoremus in aeternum”. Everyone grasped the words very quickly and now the whole congregation sings along. I find it intriguing that when the vernacular mass was introduced, no-one was asked if they wanted it … it was just rammed down our throats. Now when some want even a limited return to latin … it’s too disruptive, people would not be used to it etc etc. The real reason the vernacular is so beloved of priests and wannabe priests is that they can inject their personality. It’s hard to be chief actor when you are speaking in an ecclesiastical language that everyone “knows” but doesn’t “understand”.

 

[ComradeAndrei]

This is what I use to follow along with my Latin Novus Ordo. I am a recent convert, it only took a few masses to get the hang of things.

Good, they do print such a thing. Now, if there was more demand for it (as in, we actually had more Latin Novus Ordo Masses to go to) maybe they’d get cheaper.

I find it intriguing that when the vernacular mass was introduced, no-one was asked if they wanted it … it was just rammed down our throats.

Amen. Not that I was around at the time, but it seems that clergy (be them priests or the bishops) and the “liturgists” decided that they’d make the Mass in the vernacular and people went along with it. I know how it is, how is the average person going to question Father or Sister Whoever (and the bishop who backs them up) when they start talking about how their chaning the Mass to conform to the “Spirit of Vatican II”?

Now when some want even a limited return to latin … it’s too disruptive, people would not be used to it etc etc.

The “progressives” got their way-so of course they are going to argue those points. How disruptive was it when folks were used to the Tridentine Mass and then they started with the folksy music and inviting people around the altar etc.?

While it is the perogative of the Holy See to change what it sees fit in the Liturgy, we never got what they wanted. We got what a bunch of anti-establishment hippies wanted. (generally speaking)

The real reason the vernacular is so beloved of priests and wannabe priests is that they can inject their personality.

May be, I don’t know if that is the main reason though. I think the reasons go deeper than that.