Laura Ingraham sez the cafeteria is closed

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bellesjoy said:
Laura is a breath of fresh air. As a convert, she puts many of the craddle Catholics who are commentators to shame.
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You got that right!! I think she is great!!! I watch and listen to her when I can. She doesn’t pull any punches. She hits it spot on every time!!👍
 
Excellent. Many Catholics are leaving the church rather than simply ignore what they don’t agree with. I see it a lot in my own family, sadly.
 
I don’t want Laura’s food anyway. She can close her cafeteria.😛
 
4HisChurch said:
Excellent. Many Catholics are leaving the church rather than simply ignore what they don’t agree with. I see it a lot in my own family, sadly.
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True Catholics cannot leave the Church because Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ created the Church to continue His teaching through all time. He is the Catholic Church and to leave the Church is to leave Jesus Christ Himself!

Those who don’t understand or are too weak to stand up for the Truth are not yet Catholic anyway. Pray for their conversion!!

They may be nominally Christian, but Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden, or anyone else who thinks that they know more than the Church are sadly mistaken.

It would be better to have a minimal number of True Catholics than a bunch of so called “Catholics” who only believe what is easy, or convenient or socially acceptable.

""Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.” Mt 7:21

""Why do you call me “Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I tell you?” Lk 6:46

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark
 
Go Miss Ingram! I saw the original interview and she was great. Get hew r book “Guilty” nand see what she says about the the classic liberal causes like “single mothers”.
 
Yeah, okay, if O’Reilly said the sun rose in the east, I’d wake up and watch sunrise with a compass in my hand.

Cafeteria closed? It’s no more closed today than it was last month. Mark this post and come back to it in a year and let me know how it’s going.

John
 
rpp said:
Go Miss Ingram! I saw the original interview and she was great. Get hew r book “Guilty” nand see what she says about the the classic liberal causes like “single mothers”.
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I am a huge fan of hers & listen to her radio show daily. I’m a convert, too & Laura makes me proud! In regard to the book, Laura Ingraham didn’t write " Guilty." That was Ann Coulter. Laura wrote “Power To The People” & “Shut Up & Sing.” 🙂
 
John_Higgins said:
Cafeteria closed? It’s no more closed today than it was last month. Mark this post and come back to it in a year and let me know how it’s going.

John
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In a sense, this is true. The Church has always been beset by those of her members who are sure they know more about the Faith than those charged with teaching and guarding it. She probably always will have in this age.

The closed cafeteria is rather like drunk driving. No one really approved of it, but I can remember a time when, if someone was convicted, the first response was, “bad luck.” That has changed; I remember when it changed, and it was a surprisingly rapid change. It became a very socially unacceptable thing, along with being illegal, and no one, for a long time, has thought in terms of, “bad luck.”

Perhaps there was a time when being a cafeteria Catholic was considered daring, progressive, trendy, thoughtful or whatever. But just as “dissident” is now recognized as a mere euphemism for “heretic,” the cafeteria approach, outside those who espouse it (just as there are some who continue to drink and drive, no matter what, even if they lose their driver’s license) is viewed askance now. In that sense, the cafeteria is closed. Really, from an ecclesiastical governance point of view, it was NEVER OPENED. Although many point to Vatican II as the basis for it, nothing in the Council documents justifies their nonsense in the slightest degree.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
Gerry_Hunter said:
In a sense, this is true. The Church has always been beset by those of her members who are sure they know more about the Faith than those charged with teaching and guarding it. She probably always will have in this age.

The closed cafeteria is rather like drunk driving. No one really approved of it, but I can remember a time when, if someone was convicted, the first response was, “bad luck.” That has changed; I remember when it changed, and it was a surprisingly rapid change. It became a very socially unacceptable thing, along with being illegal, and no one, for a long time, has thought in terms of, “bad luck.”

Perhaps there was a time when being a cafeteria Catholic was considered daring, progressive, trendy, thoughtful or whatever. But just as “dissident” is now recognized as a mere euphemism for “heretic,” the cafeteria approach, outside those who espouse it (just as there are some who continue to drink and drive, no matter what, even if they lose their driver’s license) is viewed askance now. In that sense, the cafeteria is closed. Really, from an ecclesiastical governance point of view, it was NEVER OPENED. Although many point to Vatican II as the basis for it, nothing in the Council documents justifies their nonsense in the slightest degree.

Blessings,

Gerry
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VC2 wasn’t the problem, it was the perversion of VC2, that swung the cafeteria doors wide open. From the Simon Sez hand gestures, and the “round of applause” for the musicians and dancing girls during the Good Friday noon to 3PM services, to the CCD teaching kids Jesus was “represented” in the Eucharist and the confirmandi being clueless as to the gifts of the Holy Spirit, the Roman Catholic Church, in the name of ecumenicism has been transformed in many dioceses, into just another Christian sect.
 
Lucania said:
I am a huge fan of hers & listen to her radio show daily. I’m a convert, too & Laura makes me proud! In regard to the book, Laura Ingraham didn’t write " Guilty." That was Ann Coulter. Laura wrote “Power To The People” & “Shut Up & Sing.” 🙂
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Doh! :doh2: Thanks for the correction. I think Ann Coulter is also Catholic, by the way.
 
maggiemay2u said:
VC2 wasn’t the problem, it was the perversion of VC2, that swung the cafeteria doors wide open.
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Indeed. The perversion usually goes by the name “Spirit of Vatican II.” It has to be a disembodied spirit, though, because it has nothing to do with the corpus of work of the Council.

Fr. Neuhaus, in his final book, summed up what happened. V-II did not change the Church in matters of faith, morals, and doctrine at all. Some thought it did, and there were, in general, 2 such groups. One group thought it had changed by modifying Church teachings. They went into schism. Some thought that the teachings were wide open, a contest of ideas to determine new beliefs. They opened the “cafeteria”, and on totally false assumptions. But as Fr. Neuhaus observed, the centre – those who knew the Church had not changed – has held. Schismatics and sedevacantists are withering away, and people now know that “dissident” is just code for “heretic.”

What’s happened has not been good, but the Church has endured worse – Arianism came close to swallowing the Faith whole – and she’s coming out of the nonsense that has been inflicted upon her. The spiritual bankruptcy of those who have acted as if the Church changed is now evident. They need our prayers.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
While she may be correct, since when did Laura Ingraham become the Catholic Church spokesperson? I can’t stand her voice, actually.
 
“Catholicity” and “oneness” as marks of the Church have historically been in tension. Both are goods to be promoted as marks of the Church, but neither is an unlimited good. Too much “oneness” can encroach on “catholicity”; too much “catholicity” can render “oneness” to be meaningless. A third mark of the Church, “holiness,” however, is an unlimited good. While at one time some may think the Church too diverse so as to lack sufficient unity or, at another time, think the Church too unified so as to lack sufficient diversity, no one would ever think at any time that the Church is too holy. Holiness, then, as an unlimited good, becomes, I think, a regulator of the other two.

If one accepts this proposition, then the Church should be as unified as holiness requires, and as catholic as holiness allows.
Catholicity or universality is the goodness in the Church that allows it to be inclusive of all peoples and cultures. Unity or oneness is the goodness in the Church that provides its identity by limiting the expression of ideas in its creed.

“Cafeteria” extends catholicity but not always at the expense of unity. There is and always has been a list of “cafeteria” items on the Catholic Church beliefs menu, e.g. universalism. “Cafeteria” items remain open for assent or rejection by Catholics. However, when “Roma Locuta Est, Causa Finita Est,” the “cafeteria” for that item is closed.

Peace,
O’Malley
 
goofyjim said:
While she may be correct, since when did Laura Ingraham become the Catholic Church spokesperson? I can’t stand her voice, actually.
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She’s not a spokesperson for the Catholic Church. However, I would much rather hear her speaking about the Catholic faith than others in the public eye i.e. Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy’s (pick any one of them). I cringe when that happens. Sorry, but I just can’t think of anyone in the public eye of the liberal persuasion putting forth anything but misconceptions and untruths about Church teachings. I’m glad to have her as one of us, sorry you are not a fan, though not in the least bit surprised.
 
goofyjim said:
While she may be correct, since when did Laura Ingraham become the Catholic Church spokesperson? I can’t stand her voice, actually.
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She does not claim to be a spokesperson and she has faithful Catholics represent church issues, unlike some other Catholic hosts that shall remain nameless.

As far as not liking her voice? Really? Not too deep on the issues are you? Maybe it is her politics you don’t like! :rolleyes:
 
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