LDS and becoming gods

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I guess that is why only Latter-day Saints build temples:)
Catholic and Orthodox church buildings are also referred to as temples. My priest refers to our church as a Holy Temple during every Divine Liturgy. Mormons don’t have monopolies on temples.
 
Definitely. It certainly is a difficult doctrine for LDS women to contemplate. I know I was only happy as a Mormon when I didn’t think about such things. I mean, what woman wants to look forward to sharing her husband in the celestial kingdom?
Well the deciding thing for me questioning the faith I was raised in, was this. First I never believed men are gods in the making. Second I never believed my sole reason for existing was to be a wife and mother. Obviously wives and mothers are wonderful, but Mormonism forces both into an exacting, subservient, nature. Of course the Mormon men think it natural to view themselves as gods in the making. I can only conclude their God is very small.
 
Well the deciding thing for me questioning the faith I was raised in, was this. First I never believed men are gods in the making. Second I never believed my sole reason for existing was to be a wife and mother. Obviously wives and mothers are wonderful, but Mormonism forces both into an exacting, subservient, nature. Of course the Mormon men think it natural to view themselves as gods in the making. I can only conclude their God is very small.
Me too. I always believed in the equal dignity of men and women which LDS doctrine denies with the subservient role of women. I think a lot of LDS women, especially married LDS women, are in denial. I was single for a long time and eternal polygamy was a doctrine I had to deal with frequently, and especially so whenever I did my duty in going to the temple. Whenever I talked about it with married LDS women, it was blatantly clear that they are in denial about what marriage in the celestial kingdom entails. They just think that their husbands will never be asked to marry all of the good, single LDS women in the celestial kingdom. It will always be someone else who has to deal with the hard LDS doctrines. Well, as someone who was a long time single LDS woman who never thought I would marry a good LDS man (I married a good Orthodox one instead), I loathed the LDS reality that I would likely be a plural wive in the celestial kingdom. Frankly, I would rather be a crazy cat lady in the telestial kingdom than be married off to some stranger I would have to share anyway in the celestial.
 
Me too. I always believed in the equal dignity of men and women which LDS doctrine denies with the subservient role of women. I think a lot of LDS women, especially married LDS women, are in denial. I was single for a long time and eternal polygamy was a doctrine I had to deal with frequently, and especially so whenever I did my duty in going to the temple. Whenever I talked about it with married LDS women, it was blatantly clear that they are in denial about what marriage in the celestial kingdom entails. They just think that their husbands will never be asked to marry all of the good, single LDS women in the celestial kingdom. It will always be someone else who has to deal with the hard LDS doctrines. Well, as someone who was a long time single LDS woman who never thought I would marry a good LDS man (I married a good Orthodox one instead), I loathed the LDS reality that I would likely be a plural wive in the celestial kingdom. Frankly, I would rather be a crazy cat lady in the telestial kingdom than be married off to some stranger I would have to share anyway in the celestial.
Aren’t you the doomed one. :D:p

Seriously though, the day I realized I didn’t have to believe in the God of Mormonism, was one of the best days of my life up to that point. I no longer had to fight to keep myself free while simultaneously thinking of how to be subservient to men who think they are soon to be gods.

The day I found faith in the True God of Christianity, was even better. 😊
 
Me too. I always believed in the equal dignity of men and women which LDS doctrine denies with the subservient role of women. I think a lot of LDS women, especially married LDS women, are in denial. I was single for a long time and eternal polygamy was a doctrine I had to deal with frequently, and especially so whenever I did my duty in going to the temple. Whenever I talked about it with married LDS women, it was blatantly clear that they are in denial about what marriage in the celestial kingdom entails. They just think that their husbands will never be asked to marry all of the good, single LDS women in the celestial kingdom. It will always be someone else who has to deal with the hard LDS doctrines. Well, as someone who was a long time single LDS woman who never thought I would marry a good LDS man (I married a good Orthodox one instead), I loathed the LDS reality that I would likely be a plural wive in the celestial kingdom. Frankly, I would rather be a crazy cat lady in the telestial kingdom than be married off to some stranger I would have to share anyway in the celestial.
Another thing that bothered me, piggybacking on this, was widows. As a teen, I learned, that if my husband were to die, sure, I could remarry, but I could not be sealed to my second husband. (Iirc, if said sealing was canceled, I could, but I’m not sure if you can cancel dealings? But that seems like playing favorites!) but a man has no restriction. Sure, he can’t go seal himself to several people at once, but if his wife dies, he’s fully allowed to seal himself to another. That’ll secure him some multiple wives in the afterlife!

Even as a true believing teen, that seemed so sexist, and just off for me.

Mormon marriage seems so one sided to me now. While, my parents do seem to have a healthy relationship, I do know my mom has gone off on my dad for trying to bring Mormon standards into things. She reminds him she’s Catholic, and that he knew that when he married her!
 
I agree with you that we become partakers in the divine nature by being adopted children of God through Christ. I also agree there is one eternal God.
When you say this, does this mean you don’t believe that you can possibly become a god yourself with your own worlds to populate? If you don’t believe you may become a god, what does exhaultation mean to you? Please delineate specifics. Thanks 🙂

Does this mean you believe that Heavenly Father (or God) has always, eternally been God, and that He does not have His own heavenly father? That Heavenly Father (God) as ALWAYS been god, as oppose to his progressing to the point of becoming God?
 
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Olympus hasn’t posted for two days. Maybe he’s gone. I hope not.
 
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Olympus hasn’t posted for two days. Maybe he’s gone. I hope not.
Not uncommon for response when someone doesn’t know, or want to answer the questions posed, or perhaps wants to do more research.

According to MtO’s profile, they were online about 24 hours ago, so it’s reasonable to think that they are aware of the posts up to that point, but didn’t want to respond.
 
Not uncommon for response when someone doesn’t know, or want to answer the questions posed, or perhaps wants to do more research.

According to MtO’s profile, they were online about 24 hours ago, so it’s reasonable to think that they are aware of the posts up to that point, but didn’t want to respond.
Or perhaps simply needs more time to reflect :).
 
Catholic and Orthodox church buildings are also referred to as temples. My priest refers to our church as a Holy Temple during every Divine Liturgy. Mormons don’t have monopolies on temples.
Sorry, my answer was not intended to exclude others who have temples.
 
Is there a particular reason you want to avoid answering? or clarifying?
Yes, I try not to be too predictable:). I believe the answer you wanted me to give was to perpetuate a stereotype of LDS beliefs, rather than to understand what I believe.
 
What do you mean when you say this?

Thank you
Originally Posted by mtolympus: “I also agree there is one eternal God.”

I mean this is LDS doctrine as found in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants:

Alma 11:44
Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.

D&C 20:28
Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.
 
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Olympus hasn’t posted for two days. Maybe he’s gone. I hope not.
Why thank you! 👍. However, to be fair, I entered three posts on April 2 and nobody responded for over 36 hours.😦
 
Not uncommon for response when someone doesn’t know, or want to answer the questions posed, or perhaps wants to do more research.

According to MtO’s profile, they were online about 24 hours ago, so it’s reasonable to think that they are aware of the posts up to that point, but didn’t want to respond.
There are many reasons I may not answer a post, which I would like to add to those you listed above:🙂

1- Sometimes I read a post that I want to comment on, but am not interested in getting into a lengthy discussion.

2- I feel some questions are “gotcha questions” and are not really interested in what I believe.

3- If I answer one question, I will probably get two or three more questions.

4- And most important! If I am having too much fun on CAF, my wife will come in and say,“Don’t you something important to do???”😃
 
Yes, I try not to be too predictable:). I believe the answer you wanted me to give was to perpetuate a stereotype of LDS beliefs, rather than to understand what I believe.
Unfortunately, your assumption is wrong. Very wrong.

In a discussion/debate, it is important that all parties mean the same thing when they use a particular word, or phrase. That is called asking for clarification.

With that being said, one should not make statements that they refuse to back up, or explain. That is flirting with forum rules to say the least,

One of your posts, above this reply, you give reasons for not responding to certain posts. That tells me, you are not here for an honest, open, two way conversation. It tells me that you are here to make statements/opinions, and not be held accountable. That also is flirting with forum rules about proselytizing…

Just sayin.
 
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