Ok Tsuzuki, I’m starting with this one: Builders of the Adytum. Anyone else want to join with me? Only $15 a month and 15 minutes a day. And I am so going to the Vibratory Attunement Rituals. (Is that truly a play on the word “atonement”?)Want to make it a contest? The person who has the most church memberships by Christmas WINS!!!
here’s another one. You can become a minister for life, free of charge! universalministries.com/doctrine.htmlOk Tsuzuki, I’m starting with this one: Builders of the Adytum. Anyone else want to join with me? Only $15 a month and 15 minutes a day. And I am so going to the Vibratory Attunement Rituals. (Is that truly a play on the word “atonement”?)
ps: I think this one has a good start on the religion you’re building.
Two freebies for you Tsuzuki. How about a third? Do you want to be an Eckist? This one, $130 a year.here’s another one. You can become a minister for life, free of charge! universalministries.com/doctrine.html
I wonder if this ministry is accepted by the Eckists and BOTA’s…if not, I’ll have to think a little more before sending in my memberships. What good is it to be a minister if I can’t minister?here’s another one. You can become a minister for life, free of charge! universalministries.com/doctrine.html
It’s true I can’t add to his glory but He can add to His own. If His works are endless, something is expanding. That’s what I am calling His glory.God’s glory has no need to expand. He is not on the fast track to godly CEO of the universe.
God has ALL glory, now and forever, you cannot add to His glory, you cannot take away from His glory.
And indeed, His works are endless.
His Sacrifice was for US, for our salvation. God has no need of being redeemed.
No. God cannot add to His own glory. If he could, that would imply that he is imperfect and that He can change. This concept is not reconcilable with Catholicism or even Protestant theology.It’s true I can’t add to his glory but He can add to His own. If His works are endless, something is expanding. That’s what I am calling His glory.
There is nothing that God cannot do except that which goes against His nature. God alone has the power to conquer sin and death. He even created Satan who disobeyed and fell, therefore, He has power over him. He promised to give us the power to overcome he that is in the world.It’s true I can’t add to his glory but He can add to His own. If His works are endless, something is expanding. That’s what I am calling His glory.
According to the Bible, it is possible to add to the glory of God:No. God cannot add to His own glory. If he could, that would imply that he is imperfect and that He can change. This concept is not reconcilable with Catholicism or even Protestant theology.
Mormons apparently have no interest in Natural Theology since it repudiates their entire belief system. I’m afraid you are:No. God cannot add to His own glory. If he could, that would imply that he is imperfect and that He can change. This concept is not reconcilable with Catholicism or even Protestant theology.
This is not the Catholic or Christian understanding. God is complete. Acts that glorify God are done by people for the benefit of people.According to the Bible, it is possible to add to the glory of God:
Matthew 5:
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
John 12:
28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
John 14:
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 15:
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.And here is a well-known quote from modern LDS scripture:
Moses 1:
39 For behold, this is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.To “glorify” someone means to add to or increase their glory. God increases or adds to His own glory by bringing about the salvation and redemption of man. Jesus adds to the glory of God by helping in that process (with the Atonement). Likewise we add to the glory of God in our own small ways by helping to further that cause.
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Well, I didn’t invent those verses. God has spoken them. If you have an issue with what God has said, you have to take it up with Him, not me. I was merely repeating what He had said.This is not the Catholic or Christian understanding. God is complete. Acts that glorify God are done by people for the benefit of people.
That is not “all” you were doing. You were interpreting those verses for us. Your interpretation is not reconcilable with the Christian concept of an perfect and never changing God.Well, I didn’t invent those verses. God has spoken them. If you have an issue with what God has said, you have to take it up with Him, not me. I was merely repeating what He had said.
zerinus
The two are not reconcilable. You must choose one, and only one.I have some friends who are into that. Not my cup of tea, though. You’re welcome to join whatever you want, but** I’ll stick with the Mormon and Catholic churches as far as organizations go**. However, I do have a Discordian Pope card and I made a One Mighty And Strong card, which you can use if you want.
Rather infantile response!Make me.
True, but he/she/it is consistent in that regard.Rather infantile response!
If you want to define “interpret” that broadly, then anybody or reads anything is putting his own “interpretation” on it; which I suppose could in a sense be true. But I think the Bible is intended for ordinary people to be able to understand according to the ordinary sense of the words, not “interpret” it in weird and wonderful ways. What I said is according to how any ordinary person reading those verses would understand by them, without requiring a clever theologian to come and “interpret” it for them. I think that is how God wanted us to understand His words.That is not “all” you were doing. You were interpreting those verses for us. Your interpretation is not reconcilable with the Christian concept of an perfect and never changing God.
You could sell those at Deseret Book.I have some friends who are into that. Not my cup of tea, though. You’re welcome to join whatever you want, but I’ll stick with the Mormon and Catholic churches as far as organizations go. However, I do have a Discordian Pope card and I made a One Mighty And Strong card, which you can use if you want.
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Kiddo, are trying to emulate Rev. Ivan Stang? If so, you’re doing it poorly. People are laughing at you, not with you.Yet an appropriate one as well.
Quite true.Kiddo, are trying to emulate Rev. Ivan Stang? If so, you’re doing it poorly. People are laughing at you, not with you.
Don’t be puerile. You can’t be Christian and non-Christian at the same time.No. 1holycatholic’s post was equally infantile by not giving any reasons, and just saying that it can’t be done. I much prefer Bishop Soto’s approach of giving reasons for "no"s that are grounded in "yes"es. I’m not an unreasonable person, but if something can be done, I will find a way, even if no one else can see it.