Leaving the church

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Thats awesome George, im so glad you didnt give up. You will be in my prayers and im sure your bitter taste will go away.

Dont hesitate to let us know how it went. I have no problem getting myself and about 200 other people contacting the Priests and Bishops at these places. Somebodies got to get their duffs moving sometimes.

God Bless you George.
 
Well guess what, I didn’t get my marriage blessed. First of all church number 3 called yesterday and said I’m out of there jurisdiction so that is why he can’t bless it. I said two months ago you said I could join your church and it wouldn’t be a problem where I lived. Then they said if I did join the church they probably could bless it. I’m I missing something? Then I went to the church that was going to bless it and he said he couldn’t. He said I needed witnesses.I asked , how come last week you said we can just do it in the office and there would be no problem. Well now he said I think we should do it in church.So now I’m hot under the collar, so we leave. I get home and call church # 1, where Jesus died for Most of our sins and the priest finally answers the phone,I’m surprised. I ask if he can bless my marriage. I’m surprised again when he said it would take 6 months.I would almost think this is a message from God to leave the church.If you seen the size of this town and the membership can’t be over 300 and most of them are over 60 you would think the priest are playing games.I do. Anyhow I don’t know what to do.Who would know the difference if I had it blessed or not. As far as I’m concerned it’s a law made up by the church.Nobody can tell me that all the marriages are not valid that are preformed outside the Catholic church.If that’s the case Hell is going to be pretty crowded place. Pretty feed up, George
 
Well George, you’ve about summed up my feelings about parishes around here (though my problems are mostly liturgical abuse/reverence/clueless parishoner problems). End result, two wrongs don’t make a right. If you’re going to leave, you might want to try Islam or some form of pantheism - but regardless of where you’re looking, you can’t get any closer to the Truth then the Catholic faith in which you are now.

(PS - Hang in there. When you see this type of nonsense, offer extra prayers immediately in reparation for the nonsense that can go on in God’s true house).
 
George M:
I read where a lot of people are coming back to the church and I’m thinking about leaving.I retired from Chicago to Lillian Alabama right next to Pensacola Florida and I’m having a hard time with the Catholic church down here.The first church I went to while the priest was giving his sermon he said that Jesus died for most of our sins.I couldn’t believe what I heard until he said it again. I couldn’t wait to get out of there. The second church I went to I though I would get there early but they started at 4 rather that 5 Saturday so I was late.Well I seen everybody coming out but after driving for 1/2 an hour I thought I could at least meet the priest. I got to the door and he said to get out,yes just like that. Well I must of had a surprised look on my face,because he said I’m serious. I asked if I could take a flyer and left.Now I’m at the third church and trying to get in touch with a priest for a week to bless our marriage. After calling and stopping by the church I still haven’t been successful. I’m going to give another try today but it is wearing me down. Thanks for reading my post and God Bless George
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Hello George, I don’t blame you for what you think, but we Catholics have had to endure a lot with all the scandals in the Church, some have left but I’m staying with the Ship.
Why ? because Satan has launched an awful attack on the Catholic Church, satan knows if he can bring down the Priests that he will bring down many of the flock also, I read this in Christina Galagher’s book, and I believe it.
Even if a priest isn’t up to what we consider is good conduct, well at the end of the day he’s still a Priest and the Mass is still valid.
I don’t know if your familar with Saint John Bosco’s dreams as a young boy,and his famous dream of what the Church would be like in the future, I think we are living in those times.
Anyway I hope you don’t leave the Church as that is what satan wants you to do.:blessyou: Stephen.

Do we pray for our priests every day ???
 
George M:
I ask if he can bless my marriage. I’m surprised again when he said it would take 6 months. I would almost think this is a message from God to leave the church.If you seen the size of this town and the membership can’t be over 300 and most of them are over 60 you would think the priest are playing games.
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As far as I know, regardless of population, a full 6 months is required in advance in most (if not all) Catholic Churches (for preparation and whatnot on your part). I’m willing to bet it’s not a personal attack against you and certainly not a message from God to leave the Church. They just don’t want anyone getting married on a whim or doing anything they are not prepared to do.

Also, as Hawkeye so eloquently put it- At the end of the day, he’s still a priest and the Mass is still valid. I would add to that a bit further- You won’t find any other church that is the pillar and fountain of truth, which Christ founded and promised that the gates of hell would never overcome.

Hang in there, and God Bless you.
 
George,

You remember who it was that rejected Jesus.

The priests. They wanted him crucified.

Keep your eyes on the Prize, rather than the Priests.

Pax,
Carl
 
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Sirach14:
Hi George:
In a sense your priest was correct. No where in the Bible can you find the phrase “Jesus Paid the Full Penalty for my Sins.”
Remember that two results of sin are sickness and death-and both are still with us today.
Many non-Catholics believe that Jesus paid for our future sins. If this were so, Our Lord would have to open the gates of heaven for everyone, and close the gates of hell.
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There’s a difference between saying that Christ did not intend to eliminate all suffereing in the world, or automatically give a ticket to heaven to every person regardless of what they do, and saying that Christ died for most of our sins.

No, Christ died for all our sins. He opened the gates to heaven and reconciled us to the Father. It’s up to us to cooperate with the grace we’re given. But to say Christ died for most our sins? No.
 
Hello George,

You sound like a RailRoader? “Pull the Pin” I used to be a RailRoader myself.

I live in the Florida Panhandle and am having some of the same difficulties you are encountering. Perhaps we can start a dialogue and try to find our way through together?

Thanks…

Demerzel
George M:
Well I tried again this weekend and nothing. I can’t believe what’s going on. The only thing I call think of is that I’m going outside my parish. I don’t have a problem getting my marriage blessed in this parrish if the priest would pick up the phone. Or get a answering machine. I talked to a few of my neighbors and they say he’s shy and doesn’t care for people. Oh well I’ll try and stay active on the forum but I think I’m going to pull the pin. I know the church has it’s law but when I was married it was blessed by an ordained Lutherian minister. What’s the difference? God Bless all of you and thanks for the support. George
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I keep logging in and trying to send messages but the login keeps telling me that I’m not. If need be send an E-Mail, Thanks George
 
Hello Again George,

Perhaps your firewall is causing the problem? If you use one that is.Sometimes I have to turn mine off for a bit to post messages on some boards.

Like you, I’m sort of on the fence right now as well. I’m coming from the other direction though. I was cradle Catholic who went Protestant and am now considering coming back. I believe the Catholics have a sound theology. In fact it is almost poetry. However, the rub lies in the practice of it. As a Catholic you’re pretty much on your own I feel. Don’t expect help from the priests or other Catholics. Sure, there are diamonds in the rough out there but that seems to be the exception not the rule.

The bottom line is I’d be afraid to let my kids be exposed to the existing Catholic culture in this country. Apathy on the party of Priests and the laity is the order of the day. For every Scott Hahn, a convert, there are ten thousand Sunday Catholics.

I take my kids to a Protestant church where they sing songs in Sunday school and are taught by people who believe Christianity is a way of life. Sure, the teachers aren’t perfect and make mistakes, but they really believe in Christ and are trying to do what he calls them to do. I have never ever heard a Catholic evangelizing at his or her work place. We all know the zeal of the Baptist and the like when it comes to evangelizing. If you love something you talk about it.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying all Catholics are bad and all Baptists are good. That would be absurd. But I do believe “you will know them by their fruits.” The Baptists are under assault by society as well so Catholics can’t use that argument as a crutch.

I wish it were otherwise. I really do. I subscribe and avidly read magazines such as Crisis, Envoy and the like. I am studying a Catholic catechism course via the mail that is quite intense and involved. From an intellectual standpoint I love the Catholic Church. On a pratical level I’m afraid to let them near my kids…

I guess that says it all. I wish you the best. If you wish to correspond let me know.

Regards,

Demerzel…
George M:
I keep logging in and trying to send messages but the login keeps telling me that I’m not. If need be send an E-Mail, Thanks George
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Hi Demerzel, I just tried to send you an E-mail and it wont let me. Try to send me one and see what happens. George :confused:
 
Hey George,

I didn’t get your email the other day. I did get a short one from you today though. I live in Okaloosa county. It’s two counties over from Pensacola.

I tried talking making an appointment with a priest here once and was told he wasn’t in and to call later. They weren’t interested in taking a message. I was almost expecting the receptionist to say "get the “$%#! out of here and don’t call back”.

Sheesh… Enough to give a guy a complex…

Demerzel…
George M:
Hi Demerzel, I just tried to send you an E-mail and it wont let me. Try to send me one and see what happens. George :confused:
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How about this, the priest that had to remarry us fell asleep while doing the paper work.It makes you feel go to know your wanted.
 
Oh George, I wish I could air-mail you our priests… you got a bum deal with the ones you are dealing with and I am so sorry that you are having to go through this. We’ll all keep you in our prayers, and may the Holy Spirit continue to give you strength to endure.
 
I truely think that the Lord is telling me to find another church. I went to a Methodist church this weekend and it was a very good minister.I introduced myself going into church and I was shocked that he still knew my name when I left. The priest that remarried us had to ask us our names at least 5 times before we were done. I’m thinking of going to another church until they get it together. Just from reading this forum it seems to me we have this problem all over the world. Talk to you later. George
 
You alone can know what God is calling you to do. Sometimes the devil puts stumbling blocks in our way to prevent us from doing God’s will, and I will pray that you receive the grace to ask God for the strength to overcome if that is what this is. God Bless you and keep you.
 
George, forgive me but I’ve been reading your posts and it seems that perhaps you are looking for validation of a decision to leave the Church. I cannot accept that anyone who truely believes in the teachings and sacraments of the Church would leave, for any reason.

John 6:66-68

After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him.
Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also wish to go away?”
Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life;

Find a new parish if you must, but the thought of leaving the Church suggests to me that there is a crisis of faith. Remember that the Mass is about worship. Not fellowship, friendship, good music, comfortable settings and all the rest.

If you believe in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, than you as Peter must ask to whom will you go.

You have my prayers
 
I know I don’t have the faith I should, and that one of the reasons I go to church.I go to worship as well for fellowship I don’t care how comfortable I am but I still have to be fed. I thought that was one of the main reasons to go to church. I know you go to receive communion but if that’s all it’s about why have anything else. Just go in say a pray receive communion and leave. I guess I need a lot more faith and I know I do, but there must be something I’m missing. God bless George
 
George:

Have you had time to read any of the saints. I think that so many times we forget that we goto Church for God’s sake not ours and when we do it that way we end up being fed because His flesh is real food indeed, and what more could you want in the way of being fed then to recieive Our Lord?

The reason that I ask about the Saints is for a long time I had a very self centered view of what the mass should be for me, but when I look through their eyes, I see what it must be for us all. Another suggestion would be the Lamb’s supper by Scott Hann

God Bless and go for Him
Scott
 
This is indeed a tangled web. Prayers for you.
Perhaps if you feel you are in need of deeper faith, you should begin studying more about the church. I found that all those hang ups I had with Catholic teaching were wrong and that mother church was right. I makes it a lot easier to get through life when you understand why you belive what you believe.
If there was nothing else but the Eucharist, it would still be a blessing to go to mass (not to mention a commandment and obligation). Our Lord told us that unless we eat of His flesh and drink of His blood we have no life within us. Where else can you do this? No where but the Catholic church. No one else has the authority. So even if the homily is boring or windy, I know that in just a little while I get to go recieve my Lord, body and blood, soul and divinity. I would suffer through anything for that! That my friend is truly being fed. Literally being nourished.
Every religion has it’s problems. The grass isn’t greener. Don’t be discouraged because everything isn’t goind easily or falling right into place. Anything worth having is worth fighting for.
God bless you
 
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