Less Than 4 Months and Counting Now. How Do You Rate Your Diocese/Parish Preparations for the New Roman Missal Translation?

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My pastor is very doctrinally and liturgically orthodox. He says the black and does the red. So why so silent on the subject of the new translation?

Back in January, our diocese offered classes for “trainers”, that is, priests, RE directors, music directors, those who would be implementing the new translation and educating others about it. Although I am just a lay volunteer, I was invited to attend, and then disinvited when the pastor vetoed the idea. Our RE director has been fired. I constantly remind our music director and email him links for new music settings so he will have a leg up and be able to introduce these things early.

The parochial vicar (who was trained in the January session and has been reassigned to another parish and is gone) said that we’re going to implement it this way: just let the people say their parts, stop them, say "no no no, you’re supposed to say " and repeat the response with the correct words. It seems to me highly illicit to disrupt the Mass in this manner in order to “educate” people about the new words.

Not a peep has been made from bulletin or pulpit about the coming changes. No handouts in the narthex or any hint that anything’s changing. It’s nearly August and the music director hasn’t even auditioned new music settings with us. I’m leaving for a month to go out of town, will I return to the same chaos? I am beginning to lose hope.
 
No training has been given to the people, and I don’t know about the clergy either. But within that context, I would have no idea what kind of training might be expected around now.
 
I’m well aware that there’s the 3rd Edition of the Roman Missal, and I’ve been cognizant of it for about five years now…

… nonetheless I chose “What New Roman Missal Translation” since it best reflects the amount of work done in my parish to prepare everyone else. No mention of it in the announcements, no sight on the parish website, not a peep on the archdiocese’s website.
 
Our parish’s priest had a class for about 2 years (he used to be a teacher - sometimes one class would be on 1 sentence of one prayer!). He’d also throw in little tidbits of the new translation during his homilies. We’re also getting “cheat-sheets” that’ll be in the pews with the new responses and prayers.
 
xixxvmcm85 said:
I’m well aware that there’s the 3rd Edition of the Roman Missal, and I’ve been cognizant of it for about five years now…

… nonetheless I chose “What New Roman Missal Translation” since it best reflects the amount of work done in my parish to prepare everyone else. No mention of it in the announcements, no sight on the parish website, not a peep on the archdiocese’s website.
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My parish and diocese are not much different from yours. There was some training last September for the ‘music ministers’ but since the choir director left not knowing whether or not she could start using the new settings immediately (she came to me for the answer), I’m not sure there was much taught about the translation, it was all about the new settings. Considering the Sister was dealing primarily with non musicians, it’s doubtful they got much out of her three hours. The average person in the pew has only seen the small article I put in the bulletin last April after the text was approved by Rome.

The priests are getting a one week workshop in October. Not sure we’ll have a pastor by then, ours leaves in 3 weeks and when I left last Saturday there was still no word on a replacement.
 
Haven’t heard a word about it at our parrish. I thought by now there would be some “training” or at least introducing what changes are coming. 😦
 
Phemie said:
My parish and diocese are not much different from yours. There was some training last September for the ‘music ministers’ but since the choir director left not knowing whether or not she could start using the new settings immediately (she came to me for the answer), I’m not sure there was much taught about the translation, it was all about the new settings. Considering the Sister was dealing primarily with non musicians, it’s doubtful they got much out of her three hours. The average person in the pew has only seen the small article I put in the bulletin last April after the text was approved by Rome.

The priests are getting a one week workshop in October. Not sure we’ll have a pastor by then, ours leaves in 3 weeks and when I left last Saturday there was still no word on a replacement.
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Perhaps those involved with music and the liturgy are doing behind the scene work and being very discrete about it, and we should expect public announcements closer to the date of release?

In the mean time, I have heard from (eavesdropped on?) parishioners outside of Mass and have heard them discussing the new edition. It’s almost always negative, and I even overheard one proudly confess his plans to continue reciting the old responses, as loudly as he can to show his disapproval.

It would really help if our pastors would say something.
 
Pastors and parish leadership have been given an excellent preparation, and lots of resources to choose from. How they take it back to their parishes is up to them. Most parishes probably won’t do too much formal education until September as attendance will pick up then, choirs will return, training for lectors, servers etc. usually starts then. I have a session for catechists, for parents, and for each CCD session planned in November. This will be follow-up as the Pastor plans to explain the changes over several Masses beginning in Sept.
 
xixxvmcm85 said:
Perhaps those involved with music and the liturgy are doing behind the scene work and being very discrete about it, and we should expect public announcements closer to the date of release?

No, DH is in the choir and it’s never been mentioned. We were out of town when Sister came to do the workshop.

In the mean time, I have heard from (eavesdropped on?) parishioners outside of Mass and have heard them discussing the new edition. It’s almost always negative, and I even overheard one proudly confess his plans to continue reciting the old responses, as loudly as he can to show his disapproval.

From what I can tell, other than a few people in my own circle, it’s not on anyone’s radar in my parish. Certainly have never heard it discussed by the parishioners and the other two people in my circle (finance council) don’t actually discuss the translation, they’re only concerned about the cost of the new materials we need.

It would really help if our pastors would say something.
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Actually, I would have voted “pretty good,” but the option wasn’t given.

In late June, the pastor and the deacon did a “run-through” Mass one Sunday. They dispensed with the music. The new responsorial cards were in the pews, and we were directed to use them just for a practice session. The deacon had prepared commentary on each part of the Mass. The priest celebrated the Mass with pauses to allow for the commentary. It was like watching a sports event with a play-by-play commentary. Very educational!

The responsorial cards are great, easy to read even with presbyopic eyesight. ALL of the responses aren’t there, but I think I can manage “and with your spirit” pretty well.

Unfortunately, there was a guy behind me at Mass who used the entire time to half-whisper gripes to his wife, who elbowed him a few times. He carried the whining out of the church after Mass. I told him to be thankful that it was at least in English, and to offer it up! His wife got a good laugh about that!
 
forgot to say the parishioners had a heads up during all Masses in the weeks before Lent with a short instruction during each Mass on the history of the translations, what was coming, and why. This focused mainly on the changes for the priest’s part. The formal training for people involved in liturgy started then, and will ramp up in September, and for the people during Masses in November. Little point in starting now when most people are still gone.
 
In Manhattan, there has been only one announcement from the pulpit to date, about the forthcoming changes.
 
There have been no announcements and I only found out because I help with music at my church.
 
I said “poor”. The diocese has some material on the website and a countdown. Our pastor has not said anything and when asked, he said he has not received any communication from the diocese other than a copy of the new responses. There were a few workshops right after the translation was approved but they were several hours away. The Religious Ed department of the diocese is preparing materials but those will be kicked off at the meetings that start the school year (September). We have two cantors and they have not heard anything through their music “channels” either.
 
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I haven’t heard a peep but then again my parish only has one mass in English. I only attend this Mass as a last resort so maybe they have been talking about it there 🤷 At least I hope so
 
Ask your Pastor to post in the bulletin and website if available. And speak about it very shortly at the announcements.
This thread seems as though the blame on communication rests solely on the Priest. And I feel we have our own responsibility to ensure we train our family and those around us. “Go make disciples of all nations” A Priest must have broad shoulders to carry the load he already has, if we can help, why not.
 
JerrySeibert said:
Ask your Pastor to post in the bulletin and website if available. And speak about it very shortly at the announcements.
This thread seems as though the blame on communication rests solely on the Priest. And I feel we have our own responsibility to ensure we train our family and those around us. “Go make disciples of all nations” A Priest must have broad shoulders to carry the load he already has, if we can help, why not.
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Don’t know about yours but mine wouldn’t take kindly to being told to post something like this in the bulletin. He would consider it his perogative to decide when to do this – some priests believe there is no reason to do this any earlier than early November.
 
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