Less Than 4 Months and Counting Now. How Do You Rate Your Diocese/Parish Preparations for the New Roman Missal Translation?

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I voted “Poor”. In the UK, we’re starting using the new Order of Mass on 1 September, one month away. So far, all we’ve had in my parish is a letter read out from the bishops and one sermon, last night.
 
Let’s just say, if I hadn’t stumbled upon WDTPRS in Lent, I’d have no idea there was a new translation coming out.
 
Mark1970 said:
I voted “Poor”. In the UK, we’re starting using the new Order of Mass on 1 September, one month away. So far, all we’ve had in my parish is a letter read out from the bishops and one sermon, last night.
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Realistically, how much teaching do we need?

When the changes were implemented after Vat. II, we were told one Sunday that starting the next week we’d actually be expected to give responses at Mass (there was no dialogue Mass where I grew up) and it would be in French. No preparation of the assembly, the little folders were there the next week for everyone to use. The only ones who got preparation were the students if they wanted to attend the lunch time preparation. People who had never spoken in church before were now expected to speak out loudly – not a resounding success, still not where I grew up.

Today people are used to responding and, in my experience, most use missalettes to follow along. Simply telling them at the beginning of November that starting on the First Sunday in Advent there will be a different type of translation from that of 1970 so they will notice many changes in their Sunday Missal or missalette is going to be enough. I’m willing to bet that if we offer a workshop after Mass to explain the wherefores and the whys a handfull of people would be all that will stay for it and those will be 65+ years old.
 
I absolutely agree with you, Phemie. How much teaching beforehand DO we need. We’ve only got to read from a printed sheet, when all’s said and done.

To tell the truth, I was amazed and amused to read the note of panic in the poll title - ‘ONLY four months to go’!!

Good heavens, that’s ages. The world might end before then.
 
What preparations?

Not so much as even a mention, in a very traditional parish and a very “nouveau” parish.

Zero. Zilch.

I’ve heard about The New RM only in the media, not in any parish.

So my response is below Poor. (Nonexistent.)
 
My preparations consisted of placing an order yesterday for the new revision of the Daily Roman missal, which comes out November 1
 
My parish hasn’t done a thing yet. I can’t even get my hands on a copy of the missal for study.
 
My parish plans to start the teaching and preparation pf the revised missal about this time. Any earlier was thought to be wasted effort. A series of bulletin announcements well start this week that come from the USCCB explaining the changes, we will also be offering sessions to our catechist and teachers as well as the parish. The choir has new music in their hand an will star introducing the musical settings of the mass i9n September.
I think the poll is premature. Although outwardly, some might not see anything going on, but liturgist and staff are busy getting things in line.
 
Jerry-Jet said:
I’m afraid to ask this question–I hope I’m not struck by lightening–G know the GIRM addresses receiving communion while kneeling–does it say ANYTHING about what our posture should be when we say The Our Father?
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No, it also instructs that receiving communing in the hands remains as on the tongue, receiving while kneeling is a personal option.
The bishops choose not to address the posture while reciting the Lord’s Prayer. This wasn’t an oversight, it had been a cause for some discussion. They choose to leave things as they are.
 
Elizabeth502 said:
What preparations?

Not so much as even a mention, in a very traditional parish and a very “nouveau” parish.

Zero. Zilch.

I’ve heard about The New RM only in the media, not in any parish.

So my response is below Poor. (Nonexistent.)
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Pretty much my sentiments. There is a small notice in the bulletin (which isn’t even published regularly in the summer), and supposedly “classes” will be available, but that is it. But we did just lose 3 out of 4 of our priests in our tri-parish town, so maybe the mind of the pastor has been on other things. Guess I better say some extra prayers for him (and us, too).
 
Our diocese is giving presentations on the new Mass and we’re receiving handouts in our church bulletins. Haven’t heard anything from the pulpit yet.
 
Phemie said:
Realistically, how much teaching do we need?

When the changes were implemented after Vat. II, we were told one Sunday that starting the next week we’d actually be expected to give responses at Mass (there was no dialogue Mass where I grew up) and it would be in French. No preparation of the assembly, the little folders were there the next week for everyone to use. The only ones who got preparation were the students if they wanted to attend the lunch time preparation. People who had never spoken in church before were now expected to speak out loudly – not a resounding success, still not where I grew up.

Today people are used to responding and, in my experience, most use missalettes to follow along. Simply telling them at the beginning of November that starting on the First Sunday in Advent there will be a different type of translation from that of 1970 so they will notice many changes in their Sunday Missal or missalette is going to be enough. I’m willing to bet that if we offer a workshop after Mass to explain the wherefores and the whys a handfull of people would be all that will stay for it and those will be 65+ years old.
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You’d be surprised. There seems to be a lot of ignorance, not just about what is changing but also about why it is changing. Comments I’ve heard so far include
“We’re going back to only using Latin”;
“Why are we spending all this time and money when there’s nothing wrong with the version we’ve been using for 40 years”;
“I think it’s just silly, the bishops have got nothing better to do”.
“It’s just going to put people off going to church.”

Personally, I’d rather see some kind of explanation for the people who don’t understand why this is happening rather than “This is what’s happening, just shut up and accept it.” I think the experience you describe highlights why people need explanation.
 
Mark1970 said:
You’d be surprised. There seems to be a lot of ignorance, not just about what is changing but also about why it is changing. Comments I’ve heard so far includeo
“We’re going back to only using Latin”;
“Why are we spending all this time and money when there’s nothing wrong with the version we’ve been using for 40 years”;
“I think it’s just silly, the bishops have got nothing better to do”.
“It’s just going to put people off going to church.”

Personally, I’d rather see some kind of explanation for the people who don’t understand why this is happening rather than “This is what’s happening, just shut up and accept it.” I think the experience you describe highlights why people need explanation.
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But compared to what happened in the sixties, this is nothing. To some of us older folk, a lot of it is going to sound awfully familiar. In my parish few people seem to have heard anything at all. I’m the only one who’s been chomping at the bit and checking the CCCB website almost daily for 3 years.
 
there are no changes just situational adjustments.
the Mass continues in English.
the priest looks at the people [still].

no communion rail [yet].
can take the host in hand [still].
you will say I instead of we.
they say verbage will be more authentic,yet we have no one around from those very early days except the words of people who say they know. May the People of God as understood at Vatican II survive in this time of extreme rules and regulations.
 
Phemie said:
But compared to what happened in the sixties, this is nothing. To some of us older folk, a lot of it is going to sound awfully familiar. In my parish few people seem to have heard anything at all. I’m the only one who’s been chomping at the bit and checking the CCCB website almost daily for 3 years.
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That’s why something needs to be said now, because so few people know what’s happening. It needs to be explained to the people who remember the sixties and are wondering why [edited] the words they’ve used for forty years are changing again, and to the people who think it’s unnecessary because there’s nothing wrong with the present transation. And perhaps the fact that things weren’t explained properly in the sixties is a good reason to make sure they are explained properly now, even though the changes aren’t as great, to make sure the mistakes of the past aren’t repeated.
 
Former pastor (left June 30) did two short talks before mass and had pamphlets placed in the pews. New pastor has not said anything but an article on the new Gloria appeared in this Sunday’s bulletin.
 
Excellent! 👍 Last year, a talk by a nun, professor at one the seminaries here. Since May this year, Lighthouse Catholic Media CD with booklet, “New Mass Translation” by Dr. Edward Sri has been on sale in our CD display. Father has also mentioned the new translation several times in our parish bulletin. Starting October 3rd, Father is giving a series of talks ( 8 of them) delving into the history, new translations vs old translations, etc.
 
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