Let Mormons be Mormon and Catholics be Catholics

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I think we all get in a defensive mode when confronted. I know I do at times and it is natural I believe no matter what faith you are. We have to just think about what we are posting before we hit that button šŸ™‚
Think nothing of it. Weatherman has been doing his nuts about Zman ever since he came here!

zerinus 😃
 
You avoid a lot of scripture that says we should pray for all. You really need to learn to judge from literal uinderstanding to metaphoric understanding.
Okay, so what is the metaphor in those passages form John that I had quoted?

zerinus
 
Okay, so what is the metaphor in those passages form John that I had quoted?

zerinus
Perhaps you ought to study that issue since you are the one having the problem. I am not your answer man.
 
First off she wasn’t moaning so quit with the dramatics already.
I think she was.
why should she tell them?
You either tell them, or quit moaning that they aren’t being answered. Simple.
so you can pounce on them and give your interpretations and then proceed to tell her what a ninny she is?
I don’t do that, and she has no reason to think that I would.
It is her business if she wants to say it or not. It is none of your business at all if she chooses not too.
The answer is the same. You either tell them, or quit moaning that they aren’t being answered. People can’t answer questions that haven’t been asked. It is plain dumb to complain about not answering questions that you don’t want to ask.

zerinus
 
Okay, so what is the metaphor in those passages form John that I had quoted?

zerinus
Look I am sure you can be a nice dude so try being so. You can discuss without the attitude and still get your points across or are you not able to do that?
 
I think she was.

You either tell them, or quit moaning that they aren’t being answered. Simple.

I don’t do that, and she has no reason to think that I would.

The answer is the same. You either tell them, or quit moaning that they aren’t being answered. People can’t answer questions that haven’t been asked. It is plain dumb to complain about not answering questions that you don’t want to ask.

zerinus
And this response is exactly what I have been talking about where your attitude is concerned. If you seriously want to be taken seriously on theology matters you should. Your bishop would tell you to mind your own business as well and you know it.
 
by your rotten attitude for starters. you are discourteous to others, you answer rudely at times and you act as if you are God’s gift to this forum. Is that enough? or do you need more?

Try discussing nicely you will get a lot further with what you wish to say. If someone doesn’t like mormonism get over it that is the nature of the thing. You are in a Catholic forum and you need to adjust accordingly. No one here is gonna be patting your back and telling you how grand mormonism is.
Well you are talking a load of C.R.A.P. What you are saying is totally irrelevant to post that you were supposedly replying to.

zerinus
 
Well you are talking a load of C.R.A.P. What you are saying is totally irrelevant to post that you were supposedly replying to.

zerinus
You asked how I answered. I can’t help it you can’t take the answer. I am beginning to think you are a child too. You need to grow up a bit. You shouldn’t be in forums if your skin is so thin.
 
Perhaps you ought to study that issue since you are the one having the problem. I am not your answer man.
I have already studied the issue, and have given the correct interpretation of that scripture. You are the one who is challenging me on it, therefore the burden of proof is on you to provide convincing evidence for your point of view.

zerinus
 
No, I am here to tell it like it is. šŸ™‚

zerinus
All you are doing is being obnoxious. I have no respect for anyone that is doing that deliberately as you are doing. You want attention clearly. I don’t see you debating but rather arguing and making nasty comments about how others are whiny, complaining and stupid.
 
Ok you got me there I had forgotten about McConkies comments even in Mormon Doctrine. by the way did you not quote something on one of these threads about the ensign being as good as the prophets voice or scripture. Something like that? I have been looking for that quote. šŸ™‚
if you dig into all of that here are a couple of sites that do a good job of consolidating all of the relevant quotes and such. one is firmly against the LDs position and the other is very supportive of the LDS position. between the two you get good verifiable references of what is and was taught.:

exmormon.org/mormon/mormon327.htm

mormonfortress.com/ga.html

I think the pro_LDS article makes a fatal error in ā€œassumingā€ that the Catholic church wasn’t Roman or even a cohesive church before Constantine. I completely disagree with Nibley that Rome was ā€œsmall potatoesā€ before that time. Further I think the ECF writings available to us today prove that the doctrines have remained constant from NT to the present and thus the whole apologetic argument based on that seems irrelevant.

as to the GA’s words being doctrine and the ensign conference report like scripture:
here is a quick collection of quotes on that:

lds-mormon.com/thinking.shtml

I would add to that for fairness (pun intended 😃 ) these as well:

fairlds.org/apol/ai104.html

scriptures.byu.edu/

hopefully that will give you enough to make an objective analysis.
 
I have already studied the issue, and have given the correct interpretation of that scripture. You are the one who is challenging me on it, therefore the burden of proof is on you to provide convincing evidence for your point of view.

zerinus
I wouldn’t have a conversation with you regarding theology until you came down off that pinacle you have placed yourself on.
 
Look I am sure you can be a nice dude so try being so. You can discuss without the attitude and still get your points across or are you not able to do that?
I am a nice dude to the nice dudes, and mean to the mean ones! 😃

zerinus
 
And this response is exactly what I have been talking about where your attitude is concerned. If you seriously want to be taken seriously on theology matters you should. Your bishop would tell you to mind your own business as well and you know it.
No idea what you are talking about.

zerinus
 
You asked how I answered. I can’t help it you can’t take the answer. I am beginning to think you are a child too. You need to grow up a bit. You shouldn’t be in forums if your skin is so thin.
You don’t make sense. Sorry, I haven’t a clue what you are talking about. Will quit the debate if you can’t talk better sense.

zerinus.
 
if you dig into all of that here are a couple of sites that do a good job of consolidating all of the relevant quotes and such. one is firmly against the LDs position and the other is very supportive of the LDS position. between the two you get good verifiable references of what is and was taught.:

exmormon.org/mormon/mormon327.htm

mormonfortress.com/ga.html

I think the pro_LDS article makes a fatal error in ā€œassumingā€ that the Catholic church wasn’t Roman or even a cohesive church before Constantine. I completely disagree with Nibley that Rome was ā€œsmall potatoesā€ before that time. Further I think the ECF writings available to us today prove that the doctrines have remained constant from NT to the present and thus the whole apologetic argument based on that seems irrelevant.

as to the GA’s words being doctrine and the ensign conference report like scripture:
here is a quick collection of quotes on that:

lds-mormon.com/thinking.shtml

I would add to that for fairness (pun intended 😃 ) these as well:

fairlds.org/apol/ai104.html

scriptures.byu.edu/

hopefully that will give you enough to make an objective analysis.
Thank you for these links. I have been to some of these sites but have not investigated the Catholicism angle. I already know I will agree with you on the article you mention and Nibley. I have never understood how Catholicism has been so made to appear so small before Constantine. I have never found that and in fact have found nothing but support for the Catholic faith. I was a convert to the LDS faith from Catholicism and never noticed those things, but then I never went looking either.

Btw since I am thinking about it what if any thoughts do you have on the digs of Nahom? Maybe I should start a thread šŸ™‚
 
All you are doing is being obnoxious. I have no respect for anyone that is doing that deliberately as you are doing. You want attention clearly. I don’t see you debating but rather arguing and making nasty comments about how others are whiny, complaining and stupid.
You are talking nonsense. Quitting. Gone!

have a nice day! šŸ™‚

zerinus
 
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