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Valke2
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Um. Yeah. That’s what I said
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CHRISTINE77
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no you didn’t. You said:Um. Yeah. That’s what I said
It’s true that most insects are not kosher. But there are kosher locusts mentioned in the Torah (Lev. 11:20). **We bascially can’t eat them today because we don’t know which ones the Torah was talking about. **
But it is possible that during the time of John The Baptist, this wasn’t an issue. That he knew which ones were kosher.
Locusts were kosher then, and STILL are, I would imagine.
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Valke2
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Except that what I said still stands. We don’t know for sure which locusts the Torah said were kosher. So generally, we don’t eat any. If, however, there is a community that has a long tradition of eating locusts that they determined were kosher, then it is ok to eat them with that community.
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CHRISTINE77
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whatever
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Valke2
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Also, I think your translation is a little loose. It does not say we can eat any kind of locust.
“Among these you may only eat members of the red locust family, the yellow locust family, the spotted gray locust family and the white locust family. All other flying insects with four feet [for walking] must be avoided by you”
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mercygate
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Who knew this would turn into a study of entomology? So now I have to go and see if locusts use 4 feet for walking and the other two for something else.
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Valke2
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my advice would be to stick to Hebrew National hot dogs. Their kosher and you have a pretty good shot at getting a bit of locust thrown in their occassionaly.
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Robster7
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Y’know, this discussion is really bugging me!
I hope Hebrew National doesn’t offer "Extra Crunchy Hot Dogs!
I hope Hebrew National doesn’t offer "Extra Crunchy Hot Dogs!
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Eucharisted
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I have a question about The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Would you consider Jon’s Jewish jokes offensive?
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Valke2
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I’ve only been watching the Daley show for a few months. I can’t recall being insulted by any of his jokes, jewish or otherwise. I don’t mind jokes about my religion when: a) they are told by other jews; or b) the show is an equal opportunity offender.
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ryanoneil
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(Micah 3:12) In addition to the destruction of the Babylonian conquest, do Jews understand the destruction at the hand of Titus (70 A.D.) to be a fulfillment of (Micah 3:12)?
Perhaps the final fulfillment?
Perhaps the final fulfillment?
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Valke2
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Micah is the start of a long tradition to distill Judaism to its ethical compnents: “To do justice and to love goodness, and to walk modestly with your God” (6:8).
He took the unusual stance of focusing on ethics vs. religious observance. His message is re-emphaisied by Hillel’s famous response to smat aleck’s demand that he teach the entire Torah while standing on one foot: “What is hateful to you, don’t do to your neighbor. The rest is commentary. Now go study.”
He was also the first to predict the destruction of Judah because of its leaders’ evil behavior.
He is desperate for the Jews to avoid this by behaving ethically and he also has plenty of more positive prophecies (i.e. “Nation shall not lift up sowrd against nation”).
He took the unusual stance of focusing on ethics vs. religious observance. His message is re-emphaisied by Hillel’s famous response to smat aleck’s demand that he teach the entire Torah while standing on one foot: “What is hateful to you, don’t do to your neighbor. The rest is commentary. Now go study.”
He was also the first to predict the destruction of Judah because of its leaders’ evil behavior.
He is desperate for the Jews to avoid this by behaving ethically and he also has plenty of more positive prophecies (i.e. “Nation shall not lift up sowrd against nation”).
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Lapell
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The same smart aleck got a reaction from Shammai that is quite understandable. He was quickly dismissed. Hillel chose to answer, and his answer was a smart one.
Did you notice that Jesus’ response to a question about the most important commandment resembles Hillel’s, but was slightly different? First, he starts with: Hear, o Israel! the Lord your God is One. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your spirit and with all your strength. and the second commandment is similar: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.
Then, he makes this precision: “Anything you would like others to do to you, do it to them. This is the Law (Torah) and the Prophets.” Only the stress is different. Hillel stresses on what not to do, while Jesus stresses on the things to do.
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Lapell
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Some say the author of the Book of Prophet Micah is not the same as the one prophet Micah who predicted the defeat and death of King Akhab in the first Book of Kings (and was put into jail because of this prediction). Some others maintain it’s the same one…
Your thoughts?
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Valke2
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Yep. Rabbi Akiva took the positive spin as well. “Love your neighbor…”
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Valke2
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Well, I’m not entirely sure that the book of MIcah is all written by the same author. Chapters 4-7 seem to have a more universal message that is associated with post Babylon exile.
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Lapell
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I am grateful that he did. Only I had read somewhere that Jesus had taken his stance FROM Hillel, even though his angle is rather different and doesn’t mean exactly the same thing. That’s why I brought it.
I am happy, though, that there were rabbis who took the same stance as Jesus’. Whether it’s from him or otherwise is not relevant in my view, though. It shows that Jesus’ stance on this point was (and still is) possible in Judaism. Another common ground between Judaism and Christianity…
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Lapell
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Would Jeremiah not also have some passages with, like you just mentioned, a more universal message? If so, it would not necessarily show that the chapters 4-7 of Micah were written by a different author, would it?
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Valke2
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I think everyone would agree that Judaism and Christianity both embrace the Golden Rule.
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