Sadly your hatred for a group of people is blinding you to the point I am trying to make. Your arrogance blinds you and I hope you will go over what I posted and see that all religions are guilty of genocide, terroism, torture of others.Ah, you bring up a Pope that was cleared of any wrong doings. I do not look at what he did as correct, and I don’t know what other Catholics feel about him but he was just smarmy and there was no order from the Pope to kill anyone for the salvation of their souls. What he did was to mislead a lot of people instead of standing up to what is considered evil in Catholicism.
But you don’t know the history of the Muslim brotherhood whose founder and one of its prominent Muftis - the Grand Mufti of Jerusaelm - were Hitler’s acolytes. Al Bana, the founder of the MB, and al Husseini the Grand Mufti, were instrumental in Hitler’s ‘Final Solution’ which caused the deaths of not only millions of Jews, but also millions of Christians. And al Husseini gave Hitler the use of many Bosnian muslims to form two panzer units.
Al Husseini wanted to continue the ‘final solution’ into the Middle East after Hitler was done in Europe but wasn’t able to because Hitler was defeated. These miscreants fled to Africa and the Middle East where the MB grew and eventually came to our shores and started front groups such as CAIR, the MSA (Muslim Student Association), MPAC, etc. And they have spawned other terrorist groups such as Hamas, jamaat ul Fuqra, etc. Too many to list.
And they made a pact with such miscreants as Al Qaeda, the Wahabbis, Saddam Hussein and Arafat when they were alive, in the late 1980s. They all worked together in their Jihad.
I wish you knew more history. It gets tiring to keep telling you about history.
I am not calliing Christians pagans. If that was the case then I would be calling myself a pagan. I am Catholic and I belive it was a beautiful and righteous decree by the Pope of the time to instead worship something that was pagan to remember Christ and to remember why Christ was born.Joe, I think I found some catholic material here at CAF to help you that Jimmy Akin did you can find in the library. About Are Catholics Pagans, or something really close to it.
Maybe its Catholics are not Pagans, its really really close to that.
Who told you that this is problematic?
I will add that I hope that by opening your eyes, your mind and your heart, you will find a way to be constructive instead of destructive. Be progressive instead of regressive.Sadly your hatred for a group of people is blinding you to the point I am trying to make. Your arrogance blinds you and I hope you will go over what I posted and see that all religions are guilty of genocide, terroism, torture of others.
I am not sure of the cause of your blind hatred for all people who subscribe to Islam but I hope you will search with in yourself as to the cause of your hate and hope it will open your eyes and your heart.
I think that was two Waffen SS divisions: XIII and XXIII, both identified as mountain divisions, of which only the XIII was fully activated.Ah, you bring up a Pope that was cleared of any wrong doings. I do not look at what he did as correct, and I don’t know what other Catholics feel about him but he was just smarmy and there was no order from the Pope to kill anyone for the salvation of their souls. What he did was to mislead a lot of people instead of standing up to what is considered evil in Catholicism.
But you don’t know the history of the Muslim brotherhood whose founder and one of its prominent Muftis - the Grand Mufti of Jerusaelm - were Hitler’s acolytes. Al Bana, the founder of the MB, and al Husseini the Grand Mufti, were instrumental in Hitler’s ‘Final Solution’ which caused the deaths of not only millions of Jews, but also millions of Christians. And al Husseini gave Hitler the use of many Bosnian muslims to form two panzer units.
Al Husseini wanted to continue the ‘final solution’ into the Middle East after Hitler was done in Europe but wasn’t able to because Hitler was defeated. These miscreants fled to Africa and the Middle East where the MB grew and eventually came to our shores and started front groups such as CAIR, the MSA (Muslim Student Association), MPAC, etc. And they have spawned other terrorist groups such as Hamas, jamaat ul Fuqra, etc. Too many to list.
And they made a pact with such miscreants as Al Qaeda, the Wahabbis, Saddam Hussein and Arafat when they were alive, in the late 1980s. They all worked together in their Jihad.
I wish you knew more history. It gets tiring to keep telling you about history.
I don’t hate Muslims. I do hate Islam. And this is just another thing that people do when they run out of arguments they start accusing the person who just tells them about Islam. Why don’t you read it for yourself?Sadly your hatred for a group of people is blinding you to the point I am trying to make. Your arrogance blinds you and I hope you will go over what I posted and see that all religions are guilty of genocide, terroism, torture of others.
I am not sure of the cause of your blind hatred for all people who subscribe to Islam but I hope you will search with in yourself as to the cause of your hate and hope it will open your eyes and your heart.
You could be right. It has been awhile since I read this stuff. I know that there were more than one divisions that were made up of Bosnian Muslims. Thanks for correcting me.I think that was two Waffen SS divisions: XIII and XXIII, both identified as mountain divisions, of which only the XIII was fully activated.
Not aware of a Muslim panzer division.
GKC
I like that - posting to yourself. It is quite appropriate too. Telling yourself to open yourself up and you will learn something.I will add that I hope that by opening your eyes, your mind and your heart, you will find a way to be constructive instead of destructive. Be progressive instead of regressive.
Istead of chastising millions of people because of the acts of a few, and then live by example instead of living by hate, you will lead many.
You are very welcome. I am no authority on Islam, but parts of WWII are somewhat of a hobby. The SS formations aren’t especially included in that, but some details do stick in the mind.You could be right. It has been awhile since I read this stuff. I know that there were quite a few divisions that were made up of Bosnian Muslims. Thanks for correcting me.
Josephdavid,Sadly your hatred for a group of people is blinding you to the point I am trying to make. Your arrogance blinds you and I hope you will go over what I posted and see that all religions are guilty of genocide, terroism, torture of others.
I am not sure of the cause of your blind hatred for all people who subscribe to Islam but I hope you will search with in yourself as to the cause of your hate and hope it will open your eyes and your heart.
from allwords.com:I don’t hate Muslims. I do hate Islam. And this is just another thing that people do when they run out of arguments they start accusing the person who just tells them about Islam. Why don’t you read it for yourself?
You have jumped to conclusions quite often in these posts. You have a highly active imagination. Too bad you don’t use it better.
IIRC, that is the nickname of the XIII, and is a local term meaning “scimitar”. The nickname of the XXIII, which was never fully formed and was merged with the XIII, was Kama, which I think was a flower.They were known as Handžars, and the largest of their divisions had about 20,000 people, 90% of which were Bosniak.
I have and they have done nothing. I have in other threads, contacted the moderators when others are telling people they are sinners and will go to hell if they have voted for one person over the other.Josephdavid,
Why don’t you let the moderators handle this. Personal attacks are not acceptable in discourse like this.
What does their narrative have to do with it? The nutcases in Islam are due to their corrupt leaders infulencing their thought process. Their narrative can be interpreted in any way (unfortunately for them) due to muhhamed’s short-sightedness on how things would roll after his demise.Are you reading? Did you read that Jihad can be done by the sword, the mouth and by their wealth/money? But there is this thing we label ‘sudden jihad syndrome’. It is a western term put on a terrorist when we are surprised that an act was committed by a seemingly nonviolent person.
Unfortunately, I have written for you what Jihad is and if you want to do further studying then fine. If not, fine too. But don’t start posting illogical things just because the Islamic texts don’t bear out what you are trying to prove. In fact, I haven’t gotten any Islamic texts from you - just some wishful thinking.
I don’t like communism but I don’t hate all the people. Being progressive and defending what you don’t know about are two differen things.from allwords.com:
Muslim-adjective Relating to believers of Islam.
I did not run out of arguments but just grown bored with some one who refuses to listen to another. Apprently there is something traumatic that has happened to you that has caused you to single out Islam as your source of hatred.
Again I was pointing out as argument that all religions have history of terrorism against others. Judiasm and Christianity also call out for the murder of non-believers. No one is innocent of this. I have seen that with my own eyes in the 41 years of my life. I seen a 10 year old boy’s body who was shot in the head because he was nice to Americans. To me that is disturbing and something I will not forget. I seen a 25 year old muslim man being beaten in Chicago because he was not Christian. So I have seen it both ways.
I prefer to subscribe to being progressive and working towards advancing humanity not constantly deconstructing it. I have friends who happen to be Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist and athietst, who subscribe to same thought as I.
I find it disturbing and pathetic of those who take’s God’s name to enforce their political ideology, by killing, torturing others. I do not care what religion (if any) they are.
I think that it would be better that you stop judging me because I have studied Islam and you are just finding out about them. Do your own research and do it on your own. Don’t fall for the Muslim who tells you that you need a cleric to tell you about Islam. They don’t want you to read about it. They want you to be among the 90% of Muslims that don’t know their own Koran in their own language.
- Believers who leave Islam (apostates) are considered among the worst sinners, and can be given the death penalty.
- Kafirs do not have legal rights under Sharia law.
- Husbands may beat their wives legally (this follows the Suna of Mohammed).
- Criticism of any aspect of Islam is considered a high crime of treason, even for those who are not believers, and can result in a death sentence.
- The practice of homosexuality can result in a death sentence.
- Adultery by a married person can result in death by stoning.
- Punishment for petty crimes (i.e., theft) can result in mutilation.
- No religion other than Islam is allowed.
- No legal system other than Sharia is allowed.
- Women must be covered (burka, niqab)
- Rape victims must produce 4 male (believer) witnesses or be seen as an adulterer.
- Non-Muslims cannot testify against a Muslim.
- Jihad is an obligation for all believers.
Sorry, GKC. That bit was in reply to a post from you that apparently was edited as I was replying to it. I should have deleted it but I figured I couldn’t once I saw other posts after it.IIRC, that is the nickname of the XIII, and is a local term meaning “scimitar”. The nickname of the XXIII, which was never fully formed and was merged with the XIII, was Kama, which I think was a flower.
GKC
I don’t understand your question fully, but I will attempt to answer.What does their narrative have to do with it? The nutcases in Islam are due to their corrupt leaders infulencing their thought process. Their narrative can be interpreted in any way (unfortunately for them) due to muhhamed’s short-sightedness on how things would roll after his demise.
S’ok. I have to edit almost all my posts. Sometimes it confuses folks.Sorry, GKC. That bit was in reply to a post from you that apparently was edited as I was replying to it. I should have deleted it but I figured I couldn’t once I saw other posts after it.
Hatred in your eyes is basically disagreeing with you. I don’t hate the people I hate the ideology of Islam.I have and they have done nothing. I have in other threads, contacted the moderators when others are telling people they are sinners and will go to hell if they have voted for one person over the other.
Do I think Staffsgt is a horrible person? No and you will not find that in my post. It was not an attack but a please for him/her to open their mind and hearts and not subscribe to hate. I apologize if you gotten the wrong impression.
Personally this thread should be shut down. This is a Christian website and not a site to spew hatred and political ideology.