Lipinski beats challenger

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It’s the abortion party, and no mistake about it.
I understand it is for you but abortion is not the only issue that most Americans care about or vote on. Actually it is not at the top of list for many. Make no mistake that the Democratic Party is the closest to a universal healthcare party of the 2 major parties and considering their recent tax bill, make no mistake that the Republican Party remains the party most willing to provide the greatest benefits to the rich.
 
The Dem party claims it’s not “for the rich”, but that’s who it mostly benefits. If you want to talk about “crumbs”, look at Obamacare. 17 million people (some of whom had insurance) shoved onto an already overcrowded Medicaid. No real change in the numbers who have no coverage. But mandates and subsidies that cause part of the middle class to subsidize another part of the middle class so heavily that many can no longer afford it.

But the rich did okay, even so, because they all either have Cadillace plans or don’t need insurance at all.
And, of course, “cash for clunkers” was for people who could afford to buy new cars without the tax break, and caused the “clunkers” upon which the poor depend, to become more expensive.

No. It’s abortion and it alone that really is at the core of the Dem party’s heart.
 
If it’s around Midway Airport, that’s a heavy Polish and Slavic area. That might explain the prolife position.
 
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dvdjs:
that has been debunked many times here already.
You always say this about things, most of which are not debunked by you or anyone else.

Of course, you admit it anyway; that while the locals like him, the party itself is so far to the left it won’t accept him. And it’s not just AHA, DACA and Obama. It’s abortion; the true religion of the Dem party. He’s prolife, seemingly the only prolife Dem congressman left. So naturally he doesn’t belong. Natually NARAL backed his opponent, which meant that the Dem party would too.
When all else fails yell “ABORTION!”
 
But the rich did okay, even so, because they all either have Cadillace plans or don’t need insurance at all.
But at some point, even the rich start to worry about fighting cancer and long-term care costs.
 
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Yea, I read he was denounced by his party.

Am I correct that IL has a fascination with Nazis (lol, recalling Blues Brothers movie)
I really haven’t meant many Illinois Nazis since moving here, but Jones seems to be a Wisconsin Nazi that wandered south.
“I hate Illinois Nazis…” - Jake Blues
 
I believe in the Illinois primaries, you have to declare as a Republican or Democrat. IOW no split. So one couldn’t vote for both Lipinski and Ives, for example.
 
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I doubt that many that voted in Illinois took a wrong party ticket. There were intense races for the nomination for governor on both sides of the aisle. I would say that the vast majority of the voters that supported Jones in IL-3 were Republican.
He was the only choice on the ballot, his family or maybe a token neighbor could have voted and made him the GOP candidate.

Heck he could have won the nomination just with his own vote, with everyone else skipping that content, none voting the party line, as many of us do.
 
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Lipinski was not favored by the party. You said so yourself
I said that the local party officials favored him.
I said that the DNCC did not endorse him over his primary opponent.
I said nothing about the DNC or the Democratic party.
There is more than one way in which Lipinski is not a totally faithful Dem to the party ideology. But abortion is certainly one of them.
You stated something very different:
“The party didn’t support Lipinski because he’s not pro-abortion.”
The “because” goes beyond the scope of what you know, evidenced by the fact that you are now admitting that:
“There is more than one way in which Lipinski is not a totally faithful Dem to the party ideology”.
You have stated that the Democratic Party only stands for abortion rights. You have been corrected on that. poin. You go on to say repeat it to up the ante:
abortion; the true religion of the Dem party.
I think that sentiment expressed about a third of your fellow citizens is wrong and far more slanderous, at face value, than the comments about American citizens that have come from HRC, or Obama, and that you love to twist and harp on an on about

Half of the Catholics in this country voted for the Democratic candidate for President in the last election. Is abortion their true religion?
 
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Used to be.
How has it changed? I am not surprised if it has. I used to attend a parish built by the Irish on the north side that likely has become decidedly less Irish, at least it was 30 years ago when I lived there.
 
How has it changed?
Earlier threads on the race - noting the reluctance of the of the DNCC to support also noted that hte district had become more liberal, voting for Sanders in the primary, and had a strong shift in demographics to more recent immigrants groups, IIRC.
 
While looking for the reference I made a discovery that i has posted erroneous information.
While the DNCC was slow to support Lipinski, it appears that eventually they did.


I apologize for my part in perpetuating misinformation that the DNCC did not support this candidate.
I hope that others who made the same error will join me in that apology.
 
When all else fails yell “ABORTION!”
That might mean nothing to you, but it’s a big thing to me and a lot of other Catholics. if you don’t want to hear it, you probably should find a site that isn’t Catholic. You wouldn’t go into the home of a Jew and pull out a bacon sandwich and eat it in front of them. Neither should you deride Catholic belief on this site.
 
Dude has a lot of neighbors because he got more than 20000 votes.
I live in a district where the republican party barely has a pulse. The republican candidate for Congress is always some unknown. My guess is that very few people knew this guy was a neo-nazi. They likely voted for him because they hated democrats. If someone has data to the contrary, I will stand corrected.
 
As I already reminded you, many people just vote the party ticket. If he got 20k, so how many didn’t even check the box?

I see Trump garnered 113k votes from the same District.
 
That’s possible, though, if I were the Republicans, I would run someone against the Nazi so that you don’t get associated with Nazis.
I agree that the local republican party does have some responsibility here.
 
That might mean nothing to you, but it’s a big thing to me and a lot of other Catholics.
it is not that saying it that is a problem. It’s that what you are saying is wrong and slanderously so.
Why compromise the moral high ground?
 
Half of the Catholics in this country voted for the Democratic candidate for President in the last election. Is abortion their true religion?
For some, probably, at least to the extent it’s more important to them than their professed religion. Likely the percentage who vote for abortion candidates have either had abortions themselves or were complicit in one.

As to the “half”, that’s true only if you count the Hispanic Catholics. Among white Catholics it’s less, and dropping.

And Catholics who support abortion candidates, whatever their ethnicity, are putting their political beliefs ahead of their religion, and very likely don’t follow the teachings of the Church in other ways as well.
If you can countenance abortion, there are probably not many things you won’t countenance.
 
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