Liturgical Dancers

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Servulus:
The incident to which MGEISING’s mother may be referring is David’s bringing the Ark of the Covenant to the place he had prepared for it. The incident is described in 2Samuel, Chapter 6:

“14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.”

Hope that helps.
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Well he wasn’t naked, if he was girded .
 
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Shoshana:
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0405g.jpg Anybody for a gym mass? Wouldn’t they go well with our liturgical dancers…hmmmm
There are many of these masses which they call Messes in Traditio. You can stop in have and have a good look. Now Tradito is not in union with the Pope, so try to keep that clear as you swim through the many messes that abuse has wrought upon us. Enjoy???:crying:

Blessings,
Shoshana
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Shoshana:
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0405g.jpg Anybody for a gym mass? Wouldn’t they go well with our liturgical dancers…hmmmm
There are many of these masses which they call Messes in Traditio. You can stop in have and have a good look. Now Tradito is not in union with the Pope, so try to keep that clear as you swim through the many messes that abuse has wrought upon us. Enjoy???:crying:

Blessings,
Shoshana
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This scene above is diabolicial, I couldn’t go to a Church like this, infact I would rather stay away than dance to this insanity :whacky: God preserve us, Holy Mary Protect us from this, poor Jesus having to stay in a Church like this 😦
 
This picture has been floating around for awhile now. Any actual documentation of the details please.
 
Detroit Sue:
We don’t have them, but some of the parishes around here do. Liturgical dancers are not appropriate for the culture of the US. If Mass is going to be offered in the local vernacular, then the customs of the country of origins should be respected. What is appropriate on one continent may be observed as totally off the wall on another.
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Aha! Exactly. I was wondering when somebody was going to say it. Liturgical dance = liturgical abuse. Since dancing at Mass has never been a U.S. custom (and it is in some places), then it should not be added to the Mass on a whim by anyone.
 
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0405g.jpg “Gymnastic Mess” Being Performed
In Menzigen, Switzerland, May 2, 2004
Redeptionis Sacramentum Instruction Totally Ineffective

From Swizerland comes our latest example of that non-Mass lunacy that is the Novus Ordo service. Gymnasts dressed in flimsy costumes perform during the performance of the Novus Ordo Mess.

The Church of the New Order will tell you that everything is kopasetic; there are just a few “abuses.” What a crock! First of all, the so-called abuses are so widespread that they are the Novus Ordo Mess. Second, the Novus Ordo Mess is, in and of itself, the abuses. It spits on the true Mass of the Roman Catholic Church, what we now have to call the Traditional Latin Mass to distinguish it from the Novus Ordo Mess, even sugar-coated with a little Latin. The evidence, a small sampling of which is included in TRADITIO’s Novus Ordo Service Photo Gallery, makes this conclusion undeniable.

The Swiss source that brings the “Messe gymnastique” to our attention comments:

Les auteurs de ce document ne considèrent pas que la réalité alarmante qu’ils dénoncent est le fruit de ce rêve chimérique: une liturgie toujours en mouvement d’adaptation. Un mouvement que les ultra-progressistes ne veulent ni arrêter, ni même freiner. [The authors of this document [*Redemptionis sacramentum] do not consider that the alarming reality it they denounce is the fruit of a chimerical dream: a liturgy always in movement of adaptation. A movement that the ultra-progressives want neither to stop completely nor even slow down. (Documentation Information Catholicques Internationales)] Here you are for the post who says that this picture has been floating around…

Blessings,
Shoshana
 
The closest I’ve ever come was attending a Mass at a mostly Korean parish. I was out of town and this was the convientent Mass for me to attend.

The offetory was brought up by some people in Korean traditional garb. I don’t know if I could call what they were doing a dance, but it was more than a stately procession. Several intricate bows towards the altar as they moved up the aisle.

It looked beautiful and seemed very reverent.
 
Haha, I remember watching a show called "Mystery Science Theatre 3000’. In the show, a guy and two robots would watch really bad B movies in a theatre room-like thing. In one of the episodes, there were these girls dressed in gown, and they all separated in a rhythmic pattern to the ither girls whose side of the story they agreed with, so the human watching the scene was like "Oh, no… Liturgical dancers. :ehh: " XD You’d have to have been there.
 
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Maddalena:
Haha, I remember watching a show called "Mystery Science Theatre 3000’. In the show, a guy and two robots would watch really bad B movies in a theatre room-like thing. In one of the episodes, there were these girls dressed in gown, and they all separated in a rhythmic pattern to the ither girls whose side of the story they agreed with, so the human watching the scene was like "Oh, no… Liturgical dancers. :ehh: " XD You’d have to have been there.
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Hi Maddalena,

Was that MST3K episode you described “Manos: The Hands of Fate” by chance? I seem to remember a scene like that in that episode…eek!:eek:

Very funny stuff!:whacky:

Maria
 
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Maddalena:
Haha, I remember watching a show called "Mystery Science Theatre 3000’. In the show, a guy and two robots would watch really bad B movies in a theatre room-like thing. In one of the episodes, there were these girls dressed in gown, and they all separated in a rhythmic pattern to the ither girls whose side of the story they agreed with, so the human watching the scene was like "Oh, no… Liturgical dancers. :ehh: " XD You’d have to have been there.
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Man! I never saw that one. I probably would have hurt myself laughing. That was one smart show.
 
Jadesfire and BloodRain, I love you both for knowing what I’m talking about. :rotfl:Jadesfire, I own the “Manos” episode. My cousin, Uncle, and I sad in their living room it and died laughing. it’s our favorite episode.
 
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Maddalena:
Jadesfire and BloodRain, I love you both for knowing what I’m talking about. :rotfl:
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Always a pleasure to meet another MST3k-er!👋

{{{{{Maddalena}}}}} {{{{{Blood Rain}}}}} :love:
 
I’m glad to say I’ve only had one experience with liturgical dance…and I hope it stays that way! The mass in question was held outdoors :eek: ! During the offertory a bunch of Vietnemese girls in traditional garb got in front of the altar and were trying to do some kind of weird thing with veils and were sort of moving around swinging these veils. It wasn’t too bad…at least they weren’t jumping around or doing anything ridiculous. Although the traditional vietnemese garb was very pretty it really annoyed the bejeebers out of me, mostly because the pants part was made out of rather sheer material. So not only did we have to watch these girls dance badly, we could also see their thongs…and I was sitting five rows back from where they were standing!:eek: :eek:

Oh the horrors…:crying: :crying:
 
It’d be interesting to see but I don’t think I’d like to see it regularly. :ehh:
 
Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever!

I saw liturgical dancers at a funeral once, I was shocked at first :hmmm:
but it was very dignified and everyone seemed to like it ultimately, including me.

Anyway, this wasn’t a Catholic funeral, I have a lot of Baptist and other non-Catholic acquaintences. This was a relative of my friend and the deceased chose the whole service in advance.

The message seemed to be about celebrating life, and the passage into eternity should not be a sorrowful occasion.

It was poetry in motion and I believe that funeral was an appropriate venue for this type of praise.

A lot of what is done liturgically is in fact a dance, the rubrics call for choreographed movements by the Celebrant, Deacon and the altar servers. It is when this is done well that we most appreciate a liturgy but we take that all for granted. It is easy to ignore the fact that body language is picked up by the observer, and we can tell when a priest does not put his work at the altar in high regard. We expect him to ‘dance’.

I did see a Mass once about five years ago with liturgical dancers. I didn’t really care for it but the negative impression I had of the event was not long lasting.I could see that these were young people from the parish and they put their hearts and souls into their praise of God in this way. What I witnessed was nothing like the pictures that have been displayed here, which just seem like the extreme to me.

In my current parish, a Byzantine Catholic temple, movement of the entire congregation is almost a given. The introduction of pews has constrained the worshippers, almost penning them up like animals but my priest encourages us to stand. We take full bows at the waist, touching the floor with out hand if we are able. We cross ourselves often, far more often than any Roman Mass of any type. On those occasions that are appropriate for kneeling we go right to the floor, palms down, pressing our foreheads to the hard floor, then we stand straight up while praying aloud and right down to the floor again! It reminds me of Revelations, where the Kings bow down before God, tossing their crowns to the floor.
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Our weddings are beautiful, the priest crowns the couple and takes the two by the hand, leading them in a circle around the tetrapod three times, very much a dance. Once you have seen this you will never forget it, it is so beautiful.

I think there are a lot of ways of looking at this subject, spirituality comes in many forms. It is easy to reject things we aren’t familiar with, I think it deserves more reflection.

Michael, that sinner
 
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