Unfortunately George it just ain’t that way no more. Inculturation can take place in places like Africa, like on native American Reservations, etc. St. Francis Xavier tried it in China way back and got his rear in a sling, but apparently since Vatican II we have seen the light. Unfortunately American and European culture being what it is, I pray it doesn’t happen here. Dick
As much as I loved my community … I had no other choice but to leave … it is wrong … are there any liturgical dancers out there that want to give their side?
Where do these links come from(above)?? All of this is very weird.
misericordie:
I’m an artist ,so you might think I would be in favor of another art form helping out at Mass-- but I am not-- and for Artistic reasons. As you can see from Marines photo the Mass is already a dance–a very slow dance . Does that surprise you? What i mean is , you have a cast( Priests and Acolytes) costumes( vestments) and prescribed movements( the actions performed by the “cast”). When liturgical Dance comes in, it never seems to work because it is another artist imposing his/her artistic work on top of an existing and MUCH greater artistic work --the Ancient Mass. It’s like drawing a mustach on a DaVinci .
I’m an artist ,so you might think I would be in favor of another art form helping out at Mass-- but I am not-- and for Artistic reasons. As you can see from Marines photo the Mass is already a dance–a very slow dance . Does that surprise you? What i mean is , you have a cast( Priests and Acolytes) costumes( vestments) and prescribed movements( the actions performed by the “cast”). When liturgical Dance comes in, it never seems to work because it is another artist imposing his/her inferior artistic work on top of an existing and MUCH greater artistic work --the Ancient Mass. It’s like drawing a mustache on a Da Vinci .
Sad, we must really pray a lot for the situation in the church. 
With all due respect, the mass is in NO way a"dance." That would be a heretical point of view, and one who hold that the Tridentine Latin Mass of the Indult is, well, really needs to study liturgy. Mass is also NOT entertainment.
I do suggest you write to the great Archbishop Raymond Burke. I am sure he will fix things up.Do I really have to be charitable about this?
Yes, my parish has them. In fact, our deanery (St. Charles deanery in the Archdiocese of St. Louis) has some sort of committee/support group for them. When a (very orthodox) friend asked our pastor if he knew liturgical dance was forbidden in the U.S., he claimed he did not. Unfortunately, instead of being able to quote a Vatican document, she was only able to recall hearing it on EWTN. She was then told that she shouldn’t believe everything “that nun” (Mother Angelica) says. (He wouldn’t listen when she tried to explain that it was male priest theologians, not Mother Angelica, who said it).
I hate it. Everyone involved seems to be either an aging hippy or hippy wannabe (i.e., too young to be an actual hippy). The most horrible thing I ever witnessed occurred during the Easter Vigil this year. I was an RCIA sponsor this year. Prior to this, I’ve only gone to Easter Sunday Mass, never to the Easter Vigil (and, unless I’m my husband’s sponsor when, God willing, he converts, or I move, I never will go again). I was absolutely APPALLED. Every OT reading was SUNG AND ACTED OUT BY THE DANCERS!It was like a (bad) Broadway show!
Can anyone top this? (if so, I feel extremely bad for you
Since, praise God, my parish only does this (dancing) during special occasions (Easter Vigil, Palm Sunday, etc.), I haven’t been subjected to it in a while. The other day the thought came to me that now that we have a great bishop (Raymond Burke, I’m sure you all have heard him. John Kerry sure has.), I should write to him and see if he’ll put a stop to this. I’ve never complained to the bishop before, does it work?
My parish isn’t too bad, not compared to some of the stories I hear (no non-ordained people reading the Gospel or preaching the homily, no congregants standing around the altar holding hands during the consecretion, etc.), but this is one area that drives me nuts! (that and holding hands during the Our Father).
Ellen
Finally I got a rise out of someone. I’m not talking about a dance like the Foxtrot. And its purpose is not Entertainment. It is never the less an art form, in that it is a group of movements ( and words too) designed to communicate something–in this case the Worship of God. It is an art because it Must LOOK like something. And everything that has an appearance uses that appearance to advantage or disadvantage. Haven’t you heard people say “that was a beautiful Mass” or “that was really a lame Mass” ? They may mean in part that what they SAW was done well or poorly. And far from being heretical it is just another example of God using material/cultural things to give Grace–a VERY Catholic idea. OK I won’t press the issue -you are welcome to disagree.
Dear Anna
CAN ANYONE out there PLEASE!!! Tell me what kind of “catholic” site is this that ktm posts here ABOVE, i.e., The so called “clown mass” link??? I have been trying to find out??? IS IT legitimate or WHAT??? Can someone PLEASE!!! Tell me???Pretty awful, isn’t it? No I don’t attend this parish. I don’t even live in the same state.
Again to all, thanks ,and PLEASE let me know what you think.
Why did I post from a Sedevac site on a Catholic forum? Well, because what they are portraying are the abuses of the NO mass. Do I agree with their attacks against our Church… well, no! Yes, the whole hatred thing is beyond disgusting and disrespectful…but I will not go further.
