Living Together Before Marriage?

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jrabs:
I am sorry you did not hear what you wanted. We tried to help!
It was only cause a headache with so many different answers, that’s why I give up, not because I didn’t hear what I wanted to. It would have been better to hear a consistant answer.
 
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ccwalker_uwp:
I was wondering what the Catholic Church says about the following situation. My fiance and I will be moving to Wisconsin. We will be living with my parents. We will sleep in the same room, but in different beds. We also have made a commitment of no sex before marriage.

Is this ok? Should we sleep in separate rooms, eventho we are in separate beds? I would appreciate some help. Thanks.

-Matt
I lived together with my wife for a year before marriage. We were engaged to be married. She asked if she could move in as I needed help. My mother had died and for a time I had assumed her responsiblities to take care of two of my brothers, one mentally retarded and the other sick with cancer. It was a big help.

I wouldn’t advise moving in together without good reasons for doing so.
 
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I lived together with my wife for a year before marriage. We were engaged to be married. She asked if she could move in as I needed help. My mother had died and for a time I had assumed her responsiblities to take care of two of my brothers, one mentally retarded and the other sick with cancer. It was a big help.

I wouldn’t advise moving in together without good reasons for doing so.
so, I’m guessing that us not having enough money to have our own apartments because my internship doesn’t pay, and she has no job right now, isn’t a good reason?
 
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ccwalker_uwp:
I would not live alone in the same apartment with anyone of the opposite sex.
Excuse me, but, that’s exactly what you’re planning isn’t it?
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ccwalker_uwp:
we will be in the same house as my parents, my brother, and my sister.
Well that changes things, why not have her share a room with your sister, or have you and your brother share a room and give her a separate room, or let her share a room with you parents or brother, there are all sorts of alternatives available without the two of you sharing a room. May the peace and love of our Lord, Jesus the Christ, be with you.
 
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Tom:
Excuse me, but, that’s exactly what you’re planning isn’t it?
Well that changes things, why not have her share a room with your sister, or have you and your brother share a room and give her a separate room, or let her share a room with you parents or brother, there are all sorts of alternatives available without the two of you sharing a room. May the peace and love of our Lord, Jesus the Christ, be with you.
The house isn’t big enough for those alternatives, otherwise it would have already been considered.
 
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ccwalker_uwp:
It was only cause a headache with so many different answers, that’s why I give up, not because I didn’t hear what I wanted to. It would have been better to hear a consistent answer.
The consistent answer is NO, and if you research it in the CCC you’ll find it is the Catholic Church answer also.
 
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ccwalker_uwp:
It was only cause a headache with so many different answers
I re-read the postings. Basically everyone, except you, agrees that living together is not a good idea. The only one giving a different answer is you. You asked our advice and we gave it to you.
 
I think what his original point was, is it ok to live together? Assume they won’t have sex, is the actual living together part ok?
 
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Tom:
The consistent answer is NO, and if you research it in the CCC you’ll find it is the Catholic Church answer also.
Can you tell me where in the CCC it is located?
 
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ccwalker_uwp:
The house isn’t big enough for those alternatives, otherwise it would have already been considered.
Then why not just go to the church and get married?
 
Adam Costanzo:
I think what his original point was, is it ok to live together? Assume they won’t have sex, is the actual living together part ok?
Yes, that is the question, is it ok to live together, where sex is absent.
 
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dhgray:
Then why not just go to the church and get married?
Can we get married in the Catholic Church after only being engaged 4 days?
 
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ccwalker_uwp:
I understand what you are saying, but suffering for at least five months, and probably for over a year, I’m not sure I can risk permanent back pains just to sleep in separate rooms.
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
 
I’m sorry for having a difficult time understanding your reasoning. It sounds to me like you know fully well it’s wrong, that’s why you’re seeking affirmation for it. Sorry you couldn’t find it.
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ccwalker_uwp:
The house isn’t big enough for those alternatives, otherwise it would have already been considered.
The house is big enough for you and your girlfriend to share a room but not big enough for you and your brother to share a room? Or not big enough for your sister and your girlfriend to share a room. You’re rationalizing. There are alternatives, you just refuse to acknowledge them. May the Spirit of God guide you.
 
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ccwalker_uwp:
It was only cause a headache with so many different answers, that’s why I give up, not because I didn’t hear what I wanted to. It would have been better to hear a consistant answer.
But, you have a consistant answer. Most of us have said that this is a bad idea.

{My finace’ and I live 45 min apart and we have trouble just being alone in the same room anytime day or night - 4 months and counting ! }

Most of us have adivsed that you find a different solution. Or at least a different variation of arrangements in your household.

Most of us have given you different reasons why this is a bad idea - yet we would agree that each of us bring up good points to be considered.

I wish you the best and hope that you and your fiance’ will have a successful life together. I hope that your financial situation improves soon.

Whatever you decide, do it in prayer. Do it with the best intentions and stay in the Lord’s grace
  • by avoiding temptation and recieving Reconciliation when you fall into it.🙂
God Bless You.

todd
 
Rather than wag my finger at you, let me suggest that you sleep seperately not because sleeping in the same wrong is wrong, but rather that it is right that you fast and offer up your seperate sleeping arrangement to Christ through Our Blessed Virgin Mary as sacrifice for your marriage. We could play let’s-find-a -loophole all day, but I think you will have much more peace if you err on the side of scrupulosity in this case. I will keep you in my prayers. Congratulations and many blessings for your marriage!

Scott
 
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Tom:
I’m sorry for having a difficult time understanding your reasoning. It sounds to me like you know fully well it’s wrong, that’s why you’re seeking affirmation for it. Sorry you couldn’t find it.
The house is big enough for you and your girlfriend to share a room but not big enough for you and your brother to share a room? Or not big enough for your sister and your girlfriend to share a room. You’re rationalizing. There are alternatives, you just refuse to acknowledge them. May the Spirit of God guide you.
The only empty room right now in the house is the room where we will be sleeping. My brother’s room is not big enough for me and him, my sister’s room in not big enough for her and my fiancee, and there are no other rooms big enough for me to sleep in.
 
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ccwalker_uwp:
The only empty room right now in the house is the room where we will be sleeping. My brother’s room is not big enough for me and him, my sister’s room in not big enough for her and my fiancee, and there are no other rooms big enough for me to sleep in.
Dad’s office, the laundry room on the couch. you always have options.
 
Only engaged for 4 days…

I’d suggest that your sister and your intended bride share the room that you and your intended were planning on sharing. You take sis’s room. Or - you and your brother share the 2 beds and intended takes your brother’s room.

Another alternative, move the extra bed into dad’s den/office/study.

3rd suggestion, you can purchase a good air mattress for less than $50, this can be used as a spare bed in almost any space.

If you were my son, I’d even offer to share the room with the bride to be and let you and dad camp out together. Even for a year, if that is what will keep everyone safe and happy.

The CCC teaches about “scandal” and doing something that may look like sin to others can be scandal. The Bible also teaches about leading others by our example - I believe it was Paul who said that if eating meat causes his brother to stumble, he will not eat any meat.

Remember, we are to be examples to the weaker members…

Peace - kage
 
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