Looking at womens' breasts

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Seeing as how this post was written, I really, REALLY dont mean to sound mean but…

SOME women find it offensive looking at their eyes yet it isn’t wrong. Its sinful to look at a womens’ chests in the fact that you’re not really showing them love when staring at it, you’re jsut desiring them sexually. This is going to sound very crude but basically, you don’t want to tell her that you like her because of her personality, you just want to fondle her breasts until you get tired. Hows that love?

However, there is nothing wrong with looking at a woman and thinking she is attractive or even admiring her grace and figure, just train yourself to like women for what they truly are and not for what they look like. This doesn’t mean that when searching for someone who can become your fiance and later spouse you MUST search for girls who are unnattractive or even downright ugly. The important thing is to search for someone whom you have chemistry with and who shares your interests and passion for things, someone who is willing to listen. Basically, to all those men (and by the way, I’m a man too you know:cool:) if all you’re looking for in a woman is the size and shape of her breast, than go to a strip bar or rent a pornographic film where you’ll see al the breasts you want but don’t expect these women to hold your hand when you’re depressed or that they’ll let touch them in a special way and smile at you when you’re doing it. Only (good antured) wives do that to their (good natured) husbands. Just saying. The Blessed Mother thaught me all this as She is purity itself! Sex is only for married people, just as conceiving Christ was only allowed between God and Mary.
 
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You are 57. You say you look at “girls” 21-45. That is the proverbial “dirty old man”. Just EEEEEWWWWW. And then to look until someone notices OR MORE LIKELY until YOU notice them noticing you. EEEWWWW. Just EW.

You are of the age to be more of a grandfatherly figure to 20-somethings, not a lecher.
 
You are 57. You say you look at “girls” 21-45. That is the proverbial “dirty old man”. Just EEEEEWWWWW. And then to look until someone notices OR MORE LIKELY until YOU notice them noticing you. EEEWWWW. Just EW.

You are of the age to be more of a grandfatherly figure to 20-somethings, not a lecher.
You sound judgmental…picking on me by believing that anyone who looks at breasts is perverted. Back to my OP, I’m still wondering if looking at a woman’s breasts is sinful? Am I doing something wrong?
 
You sound judgmental…picking on me by believing that anyone who looks at breasts is perverted. Back to my OP, I’m still wondering if looking at a woman’s breasts is sinful? Am I doing something wrong?
You are 57 and stare at 20-something’s women’s breasts until you notice them noticing you staring. Do you really have to ask if that is wrong?

Seriously?
 
You are 57 and stare at 20-something’s women’s breasts until you notice them noticing you staring. Do you really have to ask if that is wrong?

Seriously?
I’m a 20-something and my dad is about the same age as the OP. If my dad caught a guy that old leering at my chest, he’d say something…and it wouldn’t be very charitable. :tsktsk:
 
I’m a 20-something and my dad is about the same age as the OP. If my dad caught a guy that old leering at my chest, he’d say something…and it wouldn’t be very charitable. :tsktsk:
I was about to ask the OP whether, if he had a 20-year-old daughter or granddaughter, if he caught a 60-year-old man not just staring at her chest, but staring at her chest as long as he possibly could and only averting his gaze once he was sure she’d seen him, would he have a problem with that?
 
You are 57 and stare at 20-something’s women’s breasts until you notice them noticing you staring. Do you really have to ask if that is wrong?

Seriously?
I’m not asking whether or not it’s wrong, I’m asking if it’s sinful.
 
I’m not asking whether or not it’s wrong, I’m asking if it’s sinful.
Robert, what do you think? What does your conscience tell you?

Do you think it’s ok? Do you think it’s wrong, but not a sin?

I dont know if it’s a mortal sin, but I would bet it’s a venial since it is selfish and disrespectful in nature.

Perhaps you need to discuss this with a priest?
 
Yes it appears it is sinful for you, go to confession and talk to the Priest about it. Seems like it may be an obsession for you.🙂
 
Ok, seriously? The self-justification is getting ridiculous.

I understand this is hard for guys. I understand they are going to slip up. I understand no is ever going to be perfect. I’m not a jerk when I catch a guy looking and he looks embarrassed- it happens I get that.

But this whole “we are just drawn to them!” argument doesn’t hold a lot of weight with me. We are drawn to a lot of things we aren’t suppose to do. That’s the whole fallen nature and “the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak” concept. We are suppose to rise above all of that- or at least attempt to do so.

Saying: “Well it is biological it is how we find our mates.” or “It is the fashion…we just can’t help but to stare.” Is kinda like me saying it is ok losing my temper because well…people are just so gosh-darn annoying. Or it is ok for me to eat 5 slices of cake because well…it was on the counter and it smells and looks sooo good. We are biologically wired to want to eat sugar…I’m not being a glutton!

I get that it is hard but that doesn’t mean you can say it isn’t wrong.

Every woman on this thread has said they find it offensive. EVERY single one. Yet, so many of you continue to try to justify the behavior while you are insisting you respect us.

If you buy that…I have a bridge you are going to love!
 
Ok, seriously? The self-justification is getting ridiculous.

I understand this is hard for guys. I understand they are going to slip up. I understand no is ever going to be perfect. I’m not a jerk when I catch a guy looking and he looks embarrassed- it happens I get that.

But this whole “we are just drawn to them!” argument doesn’t hold a lot of weight with me. We are drawn to a lot of things we aren’t suppose to do. That’s the whole fallen nature and “the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak” concept. We are suppose to rise above all of that- or at least attempt to do so.

Saying: “Well it is biological it is how we find our mates.” or “It is the fashion…we just can’t help but to stare.” Is kinda like me saying it is ok losing my temper because well…people are just so gosh-darn annoying. Or it is ok for me to eat 5 slices of cake because well…it was on the counter and it smells and looks sooo good. We are biologically wired to want to eat sugar…I’m not being a glutton!

I get that it is hard but that doesn’t mean you can say it isn’t wrong.

Every woman on this thread has said they find it offensive. EVERY single one. Yet, so many of you continue to try to justify the behavior while you are insisting you respect us.

If you buy that…I have a bridge you are going to love!
Im guessing Robert does know that it’s both wrong and sinful, but is trying to find a way of easing his conscience because it’s something he does struggle with.

The whole “sacred image meaning” thing…

Who here doesn’t know what it’s like to struggle against our own fallen natures, our own brokenness?
 
Print this entire thread off, take it to your priest, ask him to read it, and discuss it with him.
 
Print this entire thread off, take it to your priest, ask him to read it, and discuss it with him.
I agree with Catholic90 here, Robert. You really really need to discuss this with your priest and not a bunch of people on CAF.

You clearly need some real guidance in this issue.

God Bless.
 
No lustful thoughts or sexual arousal, just the thought of young breasts.
If there are no lustful thoughts or sexual arousal, then it couldn’t possibly be a sin. But I am perplexed as to why you look at them if not for sexual arousal. How does the “thought” of young breasts benefit you? And why only young breasts?
 
I usually stare when someone is dressing sexy, so I don’t think they mind my admiring their breasts.
“Turn away your eyes from a shapely woman, and do not look intently at beauty belonging to another; many have been misled by a woman’s beauty, and by it passion is kindled like a fire.” (Sirach 9:8)

Even if you do not lust, you put yourself into an occasion of sin. And putting yourself in an occasion of sin is in itself sinful. That is why Sirach 9:8 warns us to not do that.
 
Why do you assume he acquires and takes steroids?

I have 2 brothers-in-law who are weight lifters who have very similar builds to this guy, and neither one takes steroids.
Sorry for the tangent to the thread.

Look at the picture. Look at history. Look at champion bodybuilders prior to the steriod age. Steve Reeves (Hercules) was a champion (world class) bodybuilder in the 50s. He is 1/2 the size of this guy. By today’s standards Steve Reeves would not make it to a state level competition.

Granted health and fitness/nutitional science has probably come a long way in that time but it is my opinion that human beings do not and can not look like the guy in the picure without the use of steriods/HGH. I believe it to be impossible. Getting substantially bigger and stonger is one thing. With good genetics and hard work people will grow bigger and stornger. But the person in that picture goes beyond this, the person in that picture (I strongly believe) has expanded his body beyond what could possibly be attained by natural means. It is unnatural and history would suppoet this notion. Nobody on the planet earth looked that way prior to performance enhancing drugs. Nobody, not a single person on earth.

I used to look up to bodybuilders much of my life. I no longer do. Although I can understand the competive lure of powerlifting / wieghtlifting /stong man contests, there is something about the “sport” of bodybuilding that just simply doesn’t sit right with me. It seems to me to against the entire concept of humility.
 
You ask if it’s wrong to go deliberately looking at the breasts of ladies younger than yourself (even if you are not imagining having intimate relations with them).

The answer is simple.

YES IT IS WRONG.

Stop doing it.

IMMEDIATELY.

And stop looking for loopholes. There aren’t any.
 
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