Looking at womens' breasts

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From a man to another man, who knows exactly what you’re going through. No, if you’re naturally drawn to looking at a woman’s breasts, it’s not sinful. It’s only sinful when you linger on it.

However,

You’ll also notice that when you pray and keep close to God, you naturally begin to not look at them. The more you stay with God, the more your passions become ordered in the way God intended them; in the way Adam was before the fall.
 
A lot of women putting in their opinions here, and I just wanted to say that it’s not as easy as you guys make it to be. Most, if not all heterosexual men, look at women’s breasts almost on instinct. It’s not like we want to look at them.

“Hah! What a load of crock!!” you may say.

Well that’s the thing. You guys are women. Your brains aren’t wired in the same way ours are. Let me make an example:

How many of you women are comfortable with saying other women are gorgeous? Sure, that’s fine and dandy. Now how many of you women are comfortable with saying someone other than your boyfriend/husband is handsome? Especially some of your girlfriends who have new dates, you guys can talk to each other about how beautiful her new man is. It’s a non-issue.

It may surprise you, but guys never do that. If we got a wife or serious girlfriend, we simply cannot say that because it means something totally different to us. If our friend says ‘Don’t you think my new girl is hot?’, we’re not like ‘Hell yeah!’, we barely make a tiny grin. The process of considering a woman attractive is far different from that of women doing the same.

So I’d ask that you don’t chastise our OP here, because this is a serious issue. It’s not good for women to get all up in arms like it’s the worst thing anyone could ever do. And if I make an observation: Our Holy Mother Church has constantly suggested that especially women should dress modestly. In Her Wisdom she has known the disordered passions of men, and have asked women to help make it easier for men to live the way God intended. Trust me, there’s no breast looking when a girl isn’t popping out of her top.
 
LightBound said:
So you’ve been looking at young ladies’ breasts while at the mall and have chosen to post it on the internet for all to see?

Is this a cry for help before you do something illegal?

Is there someone we need to contact for you?
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Robertsock, your profile says you’re a research psychologist, is this a study you are doing on us? Is that a picture of a hasidic jew on your profile? Just curious. I think this is a strange topic for a Spirituality forum.
 
pollycarp said:
Robertsock, your profile says you’re a research psychologist, is this a study you are doing on us? Is that a picture of a hasidic jew on your profile? Just curious. I think this is a strange topic for a Spirituality forum.
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No, this is not a part of any research. I got the picture from a Chabad Website.

If I had to do over, I think I would have posted this topic on the Moral Theology forum, however, I think this topic is a just and valid as any topic involving masturbation and/or pornography.

One of my main reasons for posting was to assess whether or not looking at breasts was sinful, and not necessarily whether the women on this site would feel insulted by a man looking at her breasts. Keep in mind my contention that none of the breast viewing is sinful as long as there is no lust or sexual arousal taking place. Again, to me breasts are sacred…they have sacred spiritual meaning! I don’t have them handy, but the image of breasts are commonly depicted in the Old Testament; to depict my OP as distasteful one should consider the images in the Sistine Chapel as well as the depiction of breasts in the Old Testament.
 
I dont think the female breast is any more, or less, sacred, than any other part of the female anatomy.

They have both a both an aesthetic and functional appeal.

They can also get diseased and kill a woman. Because of it, many women get them chopped off, literally.

And as her body ages, they, like the rest of her body, lose their youthfulness and are not nearly as “beautiful” as they were in her younger years.

It’s just one part of a woman’s body. They dont determine her value nor have anything to do with her dignity or her intelligence.

(and I give out this reality check knowing many women who have died due to cancer and how their families have suffered because this part of her body became diseased and killed their wife, mother, daughter, sister, aunt, grandmother, etc…)

Thinking there is something “special” about the female breast, beyond their functionality to produce milk to feed babies (which of course is what female mammals do so nothing extra-special for human females in that area) , or their aesthetic appeal which is part of nature, is to romanticize them way tooo much.

They are made up of skin, ducts, lobes, tissue, etc etc…
 
Marie5890 said:
I dont think the female breast is any more, or less, sacred, than any other part of the female anatomy.

They have both a both an aesthetic and functional appeal.

They can also get diseased and kill a woman. Because of it, many women get them chopped off, literally.

And as her body ages, they, like the rest of her body, lose their youthfulness and are not nearly as “beautiful” as they were in her younger years.

It’s just one part of a woman’s body. They dont determine her value nor have anything to do with her dignity or her intelligence.

(and I give out this reality check knowing many women who have died due to cancer and how their families have suffered because this part of her body became diseased and killed their wife, mother, daughter, sister, aunt, grandmother, etc…)

Thinking there is something “special” about the female breast, beyond their functionality to produce milk to feed babies (which of course is what female mammals do so nothing extra-special for human females in that area) , or their aesthetic appeal which is part of nature, is to romanticize them way tooo much.

They are made up of skin, ducts, lobes, tissue, etc etc…
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I don’t think breasts are sacred in and of themselves, but that the image of breasts can have sacred meaning.

I agree with most of the other stuff you posted.
 
Robert_Sock said:
I don’t think breasts are sacred in and of themselves, but that the image of breasts can have sacred meaning.

I agree with most of the other stuff you posted.
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I would suggest that if you want to contemplate some sort of sacred meaning that you are choosing to project onto the female breast , I wouldnt do it while looking at a woman’s chest.

It really is simply disrespectful to any woman’s dignity. A woman is much much more than her body or any part thereof… 👍
 
Marie5890 said:
I would suggest that if you want to contemplate some sort of sacred meaning that you are choosing to project onto the female breast , I wouldnt do it while looking at a woman’s chest.

It really is simply disrespectful to any woman’s dignity. A woman is much much more than her body or any part thereof… 👍
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And why is the OP specifically mentioning “young” breasts? That is downright creepy.

He also discriminates against old breasts. You should be just as enthralled with this woman’s breasts. It is just fat, nodes, tissue, sweat glands, etc.

 
Catholic90 said:
And why is the OP specifically mentioning “young” breasts? That is downright creepy.

He also discriminates against old breasts. You should be just as enthralled with this woman’s breasts. It is just fat, nodes, tissue, sweat glands, etc.

http://www.immortalhumans.com/wp-content/uploads/old-women.jpg
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Point well taken. If Robert’s sees some sacred meaning in the image of the female breast, then the age of the woman shouldnt matter.

The sacredness of anything truly sacred has nothing to do with age. 🙂
 
Robert_Sock said:
Breasts are my own personal fetishes. I have no intention of acting-out my fetish in real life, like in my getting a girlfriend.
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Then if it’s a fetish how can you say you do not look at them lustfully?
 
PerfectTiming said:
Then if it’s a fetish how can you say you do not look at them lustfully?
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The fetish is the result of childhood upbringing and have little sexuality attached to them in such a state. So, yes, it can be a fetish and not be lustful.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Is it sinful to look at the breasts of young ladies while shopping. I do it more out of habit than anything else. No lustful thoughts or sexual arousal, just the thought of young breasts. Breasts, as in the Song of Songs, can be a sacred image.
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To answer this I need to know, how **young **these ladies are,
and how old you are.

Also how long is your glance?
 
Luvtosew said:
To answer this I need to know, how **young **these ladies are,
and how old you are.

Also how long is your glance?
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I’m 57 and I’m talking about girls age, say 21-45

The length of my glance is usually dependent upon how long I can look without anybody noticing.
 
Oh ok, your getting to the age of being labeled a dirty old man, now to just take a glance now and then is not a sin, but if you go to the mall and sit there to watch these ladies, well then yes your sinning. I’m glad to hear your not looking at teen age girls.

To take a glance here and there is normal for a man. I do imagine sometimes men are in a state of shock especially when they see someone with fake ones, those that are so big one can’t help but notice, these women want to be looked at, most of us don’t.

I give my husband a look, hes your age, when he glances too long. Sometimes I cuff him one.😃
 
TheRealJuliane said:
So report him. He’s probably trolling anyway.

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Why so antagonistic towards me? You sound argumentative and like an instigator; it’s like you have laid the bait and you now try to color me by calling me a troll.
 
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