Lost, Best Written TV Program

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wjp984 said:
well they throw things in there to make everyone wrong and everyone right at times with their theories but I still stand by my opinon. African birds don’t live in Austrailia and one happens to fly into a window when Walt is upset and looking at the book of African birds. Why else would they specifically have Walt looking at a comic book with a polar bear on the cover right before each one comes? Also, Walt is special and wanted by the others. This is mostlikely because he has that ability. Feel free to share how all these clues are not saying what I think they are.
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Season 1, “The Pilot” - part 2, is when a polar bear first makes an appearance, but Walt was not looking at the comic book *right before *it happened. It was much earlier in the show. And if you’ll recall the bear was charging after Sawyer, Kate, Sayid, Charlie, Boone and Shannon, when they were hiking to higher ground to pick up signals on the transiever. Walt was no where around them. He was back on the beach playing backgammon with Locke. I think they “introduced” the polar bear to set the stage for the empty cages we’ve just seen in season 3’s premier.

What about the horse only Kate and Sawyer saw in season 2? Walt had already been kidnapped, and again, was nowhere around them.
 
Walt was angry since no one was paying attention to him about the African bird and an African bird flew into the window? I find that evidence enough. Walt was upset at his dad for not letting him be with Lock when the first polar bear came. He was reading the comic book then and the group just did not find Walt’s creatiom until the second part. The second polar bear is much more obvioulsy connected to the comic book. Finally, of all the things to appear on a comic book, why make it a polar bear if it was not associated with Walt. Why even have the comic book in there if it is not part of the plot?

I can not help you out with the horse question though.
 
I thought Mr. Eko was Catholic. There could have been a time between his brother dying and him investigating that dead girl for the church when he could have joined. Plus he baptized Claire’s baby.
 
punisherthunder said:
I thought Mr. Eko was Catholic. There could have been a time between his brother dying and him investigating that dead girl for the church when he could have joined. Plus he baptized Claire’s baby.
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Mr Eko was a drug smuggler, who was at odds with his brother, who was a Catholic priest.

The people at the mission church his priest-brother was working, made statues of the Blessed Mother. Eko, in a deceptive move, offered to fly the statues to the city where they could be sold. However, at the airport, it was discovered that the statues were filled with drugs. Just then, the police arrived to stop the plane. Eko’s partners had a gun fight with the police where his priest-brother was caught inside the plane in the crossfire and was killed.

The plane took off but ended up crashing on the Island, where Loche found it along with the drug filled Statues of the Blessed mother, which Charlie ended up finding. Eko, found the decayed body of his brother. At that point, Eko had a religious experience, when a black cloud came to him and from what I could tell, it was revealed that it was the cloud was the spirit of his brother, prompting him to turn away from evil and do go. At that point, Eko declared himself a a priest and everyone on the island thinks he actually is.

I think I’ve got the story correct. Some one can correct the details if necessary.

Jim
 
I suppose I’m going to get ahead of myself and say that it may be revealed later that Eko officially became a priest. We are just shown a fraction of his past.
 
Looks like the invisible monsters are back next week. I missed them!😃
 
punisherthunder said:
I suppose I’m going to get ahead of myself and say that it may be revealed later that Eko officially became a priest. We are just shown a fraction of his past.
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I know that when his brother was shot and taken away on the plane that the soldiers mistook Eko for a priest(since he was dressed as one). I also remember that Eko forced his brother to sign some forged paperwork which “made” Eko a priest. His brother said something to the effect that this paper does not Really make you a priest. So, I am also thinking that sometime between his brother getting shot and the plane crash that he may have offically become a priest.
 
clearcutkip said:
I know that when his brother was shot and taken away on the plane that the soldiers mistook Eko for a priest(since he was dressed as one). I also remember that Eko forced his brother to sign some forged paperwork which “made” Eko a priest. His brother said something to the effect that this paper does not Really make you a priest. So, I am also thinking that sometime between his brother getting shot and the plane crash that he may have offically become a priest.
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Nope, EKO never officially became a priest, as presented in what we’ve seen so far.

However, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t a priest prior to what the writers have revealed so far. But between the time of his brother being shot and the plane crash, EKO didn’t become a priest. In fact, how he ended up on the Island was that he was fleeing from the police in his home country.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Mr Eko was a drug smuggler, who was at odds with his brother, who was a Catholic priest.

The people at the mission church his priest-brother was working, made statues of the Blessed Mother. Eko, in a deceptive move, offered to fly the statues to the city where they could be sold. However, at the airport, it was discovered that the statues were filled with drugs. Just then, the police arrived to stop the plane. Eko’s partners had a gun fight with the police where his priest-brother was caught inside the plane in the crossfire and was killed.

The plane took off but ended up crashing on the Island, where Loche found it along with the drug filled Statues of the Blessed mother, which Charlie ended up finding. Eko, found the decayed body of his brother. At that point, Eko had a religious experience, when a black cloud came to him and from what I could tell, it was revealed that it was the cloud was the spirit of his brother, prompting him to turn away from evil and do go. At that point, Eko declared himself a a priest and everyone on the island thinks he actually is.

I think I’ve got the story correct. Some one can correct the details if necessary.

Jim
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But I think there’s an episode with a flashback showing him acting as a priest, presumably after his brother saved him. He didn’t go from that scene (his brother taking off in the plane) straight to the island. Or am I confused?

Still, I got the impression that he never was actually ordained. And he says Psalm 23 wrong (shadow of the valley instead of valley of the shadow). I think they deliberately show him making mistakes that a real priest wouldn’t make (we hope–I’ve known some badly educated priests!).

Edwin
 
Contarini said:
But I think there’s an episode with a flashback showing him acting as a priest, presumably after his brother saved him. He didn’t go from that scene (his brother taking off in the plane) straight to the island. Or am I confused?
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You are correct in that. After his brother had signed those papers and died, they showed an episode of Eko, as a “priest” and it dealt mainly with him investigating an alleged miracle of a girl who had died and then came back to life, while he was in Australia. They purposefully put him on this case, because they knew he did not believe it was true (at least initially). Then before he got on the Oceania flight that would crash, this girl met and spoke to him at the airport.

I don’t think they have yet revealed how he came to be in Australia to begin with though.
 
Last night they were supposed to have the writers of Lost on Nightline. Thats to late for me. They were supposed to reveal how they come up with some of the story lines. Also I heard the plan was to make a movie after the TV series ends to answer all the questions.
 
Contarini said:
But I think there’s an episode with a flashback showing him acting as a priest, presumably after his brother saved him. He didn’t go from that scene (his brother taking off in the plane) straight to the island. Or am I confused?

Still, I got the impression that he never was actually ordained. And he says Psalm 23 wrong (shadow of the valley instead of valley of the shadow). I think they deliberately show him making mistakes that a real priest wouldn’t make (we hope–I’ve known some badly educated priests!).

Edwin
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I remember that, but Eko had dressed in priest clothing as a means of escape from the country.

However, he was mistakingly taken for a real priest and taken as an investigating priest, in a suppose miracle. At first he didn’t know how to respond, or even what to do. It was all fake to escape capture by the authorities.
 
Eko did have his brother sign some sort of document to “make” him a priest, as the previous poster said. Therefore, he is not a “real” priest. However, he is the closest thing they have on the island.

I agree with the poster who took issue with errors presented. This show has such a following, it is a disservice to present blatant errors. I am not here referring to the misquoted psalm or the comment by Locke’s mother. When Eko, the island “priest”, tells someone (and the viewer) that John the Baptist washed away Jesus’ sins when he baptized Him, it is a blatant error. If the writers merely made a mistake, it is irresponsible. If it was a deliberate error, shame on them.

Of course, this was a very small part of a very small scene aimed at convincing a young mother to baptize her new baby boy. Still, the implication that Jesus had any sins to wash away is problematic.

That said, we love the show and watch it (sometimes twice) every week.
 
dranzal said:
When Eko, the island “priest”, tells someone (and the viewer) that John the Baptist washed away Jesus’ sins when he baptized Him, it is a blatant error.
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Which is why the character Eko isn’t a real priest and made the error.

The program wasn’t written for the purpose of teaching Catholic doctrine, obviously. 😃
 
dranzal said:
I agree with the poster who took issue with errors presented. This show has such a following, it is a disservice to present blatant errors. I am not here referring to the misquoted psalm or the comment by Locke’s mother. When Eko, the island “priest”, tells someone (and the viewer) that John the Baptist washed away Jesus’ sins when he baptized Him, it is a blatant error. If the writers merely made a mistake, it is irresponsible. If it was a deliberate error, shame on them.

Of course, this was a very small part of a very small scene aimed at convincing a young mother to baptize her new baby boy. Still, the implication that Jesus had any sins to wash away is problematic.
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Finally…someone else gets it. Thank you!😉 👍
 
That was a great episode last night!

I’m sorry, but I can’t resist pointing this out: the polar bear makes another appearrance, yet Walt is gone. I’m sticking with my theory that the bear is an old Dharma “experiment” gone wrong or something.
 
Could you folks here the screams from North Central Massachusetts last evening? Comcast Cable System went out at 7:45 PM and didn’t come back until after 10PM.

Myself, I smiled at my wife as I pluged in the TV antena, that is up on my roof. My wife argued with me this past summer, to take that old piece of junk down.

Last night I looked so wise! 😃

BTW, last night’s episode was good. Next week looks disturbing in that something bad is going to happen to Sawyer.

Jim
 
Karen1996 said:
That was a great episode last night!

I’m sorry, but I can’t resist pointing this out: the polar bear makes another appearrance, yet Walt is gone. I’m sticking with my theory that the bear is an old Dharma “experiment” gone wrong or something.
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Don’t you remember the “beard/no beard” guy said “the bears got it in less than an hour” – when Sawyer was trying to figure out the fish biscuit thing?
 
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