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YinYangMom
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Hmmm…I’ll have to look that episode up then, to see if we got the kid’s name before he was taken away. Let’s hope it’s Ben
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Dancelittleewok
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I agree with you. Keep the show, people!
Me too. He’s great! Hey, what about those two new ppl that are with Locke? Were they “off-camera” or something? Maybe Mr. Firefly could show up.
You think Kate’s still on the fence with her feelings? Ben remarked when Jack was looking at Kate and Sawyer’s moment via survelliance: “I would have thought that she would’ve picked you.” (a paraphrase)
You remember what Juliet said? That the Other want change, a new leader. Juliet asked Jack to make Ben’s death look accidentally. But as soon as Ben’s out, Colleen’s hubby goes for Jack. If that’s how they’re going out when Ben’s gone, then I hope Ben lives. I do not like the alternative. Ben is increasingly becoming more sympathetic.
I think the only way for the captives to make it out alive is for Locke to find them. The newly psychic Desmond might have some clues. ::crossing fingers::
Ben’s a slippery one. He kinda reminds me of Gollum. Yes, it would seem that there’s some relationship with Alex and Ben…maybe romantic? If some of the Others want change and Jack’s saving him, then the Others could use her as a bargaining chip. They could’ve told Ben that she’s returned while kidnapping her for further use.
Do you think there’s some connection between the Others and the Darma Initative? There’s been little talk about it since last season.
Who is/are your favorite character (s)?
Me too. He’s great! Hey, what about those two new ppl that are with Locke? Were they “off-camera” or something? Maybe Mr. Firefly could show up.
Well, maybe I’m just reading too much into it. I saw how Kate drugged Mr. Firefly and left him as a sign of self-sacrifice in a way: she did this so he wouldn’t get into trouble. She gave up him in a way to protect him. She gave up chance of escape for Sawyer and Jack. Also, Sawyer didn’t tell Kate the truth about the island to protect, give her some hope. In a way, Kate did so with Mr. Firefly: there was hope for them as long as her identity was safe. Of course, I could be reading way too much into this flashblack.
You think Kate’s still on the fence with her feelings? Ben remarked when Jack was looking at Kate and Sawyer’s moment via survelliance: “I would have thought that she would’ve picked you.” (a paraphrase)
I agree with you. Kate’s death could bring Sawyer and Jack together. But on the other hand, the love triangle brings about sexual tension and relational drama, so the producers aren’t likely to kill her off.
You remember what Juliet said? That the Other want change, a new leader. Juliet asked Jack to make Ben’s death look accidentally. But as soon as Ben’s out, Colleen’s hubby goes for Jack. If that’s how they’re going out when Ben’s gone, then I hope Ben lives. I do not like the alternative. Ben is increasingly becoming more sympathetic.
I think the only way for the captives to make it out alive is for Locke to find them. The newly psychic Desmond might have some clues. ::crossing fingers::
I have no idea. Colleen’s husband said it to another Other as they were walking to the Zoo. Why do the Others want Sawyer, Kate, and Jack anyway?Oooh…I missed that. Who’s Jacob
Ben’s a slippery one. He kinda reminds me of Gollum. Yes, it would seem that there’s some relationship with Alex and Ben…maybe romantic? If some of the Others want change and Jack’s saving him, then the Others could use her as a bargaining chip. They could’ve told Ben that she’s returned while kidnapping her for further use.
Do you think there’s some connection between the Others and the Darma Initative? There’s been little talk about it since last season.
Who is/are your favorite character (s)?
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JimR-OCDS
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Did I hear them correctly in that they said that they’re going to show 16 episodes in a row, with no repeats starting Feb 7th?
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Dancelittleewok
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Yeah, I believe that was said.
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YinYangMom
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INTERESTING…Hmmm…I’ll have to look that episode up then, to see if we got the kid’s name before he was taken away. Let’s hope it’s Ben
I went to ABC.COM where you can see the episodes on line…
the kid’s name is Carl
Maybe Alex was looking for Ben, not as her boyfriend, but because she knows Ben is the leader of everything and she wants answers from him.
Also interesting in that episode (it’s the first, by the way)…is Ben telling Kate ‘the next two weeks’ were going to be miserable for her…
So…Ben needs them on the island for 2 weeks…one reason is for the surgery, of course…Maybe he figured it would take two weeks to sway Jack in his favor…he did tell him the elaborate plan was ruined once Jack saw the x-rays…and he is still using Kate as leverage over Jack…
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YinYangMom
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Poor Mr. Firefly…did you notice, though, that his job was hunting down fugitives??? He may be on Kate’s trail yet!Hey, what about those two new ppl that are with Locke? Were they “off-camera” or something? Maybe Mr. Firefly could show up.
By the way, was the guy on the phone the same as the one who died on the plane??? He should be, I just can’t recall if it was the same actor…
I thought she was rather set on Sawyer, but she’s definitely still drawn to Jack and we know Jack likes her…and that Jack has an obsessive disorder when it comes to the women in his life choosing another man over him…so he may put up a fight for her yet…
I really didn’t like that part of this season…depicting Jack as the obsessive ex who just needed to know who the competition was as if it would help. His ex nailed him on it rather well. But I suppose it’s meant to reveal something about his character that will matter to this story…perhaps it is to show he’ll fight for Kate’s affections.
Yeah, but why didn’t the psychic Desmond know Ecko was about to die?
Ben needs Kate and Sawyer as leverage for Jack to do his surgery. I suppose the Other’s need Jack to kill Ben and they don’t seem to care about what happens to Kate or Sawyer.
Yes. The fact that the Others have access to the rest of the world, on demand, even ties them to that Ice Cap center from last season’s cliff-hanger and Desmond’s love interest.
Sawyer. Hands down.
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Dancelittleewok
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I wondered myself too. I didn’t see the first season, so I don’t know.
I didn’t like it either. Do you recall that Ben said that Juliet looks remarkably like Jack’s ex when Ben said that the x-rays killed his plan to break Jack? I think that might be why they did the flashbacks. It definitely does show a darker side of the Doc.
Which doctor-Shephard should be rightly be called McDreamy?
- Jack Shephard (LOST)
- Derek Shephard (Grey’s Anatomy)
::grasping for straws:: Maybe Desmond knew but witheld it. There’s gotta be a way out for Jack, Sawyer, and Kate…
Do you think that’s all Ben wants? Ben brought them to his camp without the intention of showing Jack his x-rays. He said his plans for breaking Jack when down the drain when Jack saw those x-rays…Do you think Ben will send them back once his back surgery is done?
Hmm…Are the Others heirs to the Darma Initative then? Does Desmond have ties to the Others?
QUOTE]Sawyer. Hands down.
Me too! That man is a beauty! Excellently played by Josh Holloway. :tiphat: Let’s hope that they don’t kill him off…
This season (so far) definitely deserves a Emmy as far as I’m concerned.
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Karen1996
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But, I thought Ben was Benjamin Linus, aka Henry Gale. And I don’t think they ever mentioned the boy’s name, who I think is her boyfriend.Hmmm…I’ll have to look that episode up then, to see if we got the kid’s name before he was taken away. Let’s hope it’s Ben
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YinYangMom
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Ben is Benjamin Linus, aka Henry Gale.
Episode one has Colleen’s husband telling “Carl” to apologize to Sawyer for bringing him into his attempted escape.
And yeah, Carl’s a teen/young adult about Alex’s age…I checked the video:
“what did you do to him, Danny? I wanna talk to Ben…they’re going to kill your boyfriend just like they killed mine.”
Sooo…Colleen’s husband’s name is Danny…
Alex was asking for Ben to find out about Carl.
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onceagain
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I’m of the opinion that the new season is absolute ****. I’ve been watching since day one, and I thought the first season was some of the highest quality television i’ve ever seen. But I was worried that they would try to drag the series out in order to milk all the money they can get out of it - and that’s what they’re doing now.
Lost, at most, deserves only two or three seasons. Season one was a perfect hook for the series, and left us with a lot of questions. Season two should have kept us guessing for a little while longer and towards then end should’ve answered a few of the minor questions. The third season should’ve been the conclusion of the series that neatly wrapped up the whole series.
Instead season three is dragging the show out for so long that it’s starting to loose it’s luster. The twists don’t do it for me anymore (do I really care about Ben’s tumor or Mr. Echo’s death?) and the character development has gone stagnant. The show no longer captivates me, and I find myself being bored by the series. The “others” aren’t exciting to me (besides the blonde woman
) and it was dissappointing (partial) answer to that question.
I don’t care about these characters anymore. I’m tired of them randomly introducing new minor characters that were passengers on the flight, but we’ve never seen before. The show has been a major dissappointment for me and I hate to see it become so bad. I’m ready for them to wrap everything up and answer all the questions but I know that won’t happen for a few more seasons.
…can you tell i’m angry about Lost?
If you want intelligent and exciting television then I recommend you check out Grey’s Anatomy and Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.
Lost, at most, deserves only two or three seasons. Season one was a perfect hook for the series, and left us with a lot of questions. Season two should have kept us guessing for a little while longer and towards then end should’ve answered a few of the minor questions. The third season should’ve been the conclusion of the series that neatly wrapped up the whole series.
Instead season three is dragging the show out for so long that it’s starting to loose it’s luster. The twists don’t do it for me anymore (do I really care about Ben’s tumor or Mr. Echo’s death?) and the character development has gone stagnant. The show no longer captivates me, and I find myself being bored by the series. The “others” aren’t exciting to me (besides the blonde woman
) and it was dissappointing (partial) answer to that question.I don’t care about these characters anymore. I’m tired of them randomly introducing new minor characters that were passengers on the flight, but we’ve never seen before. The show has been a major dissappointment for me and I hate to see it become so bad. I’m ready for them to wrap everything up and answer all the questions but I know that won’t happen for a few more seasons.
…can you tell i’m angry about Lost?
If you want intelligent and exciting television then I recommend you check out Grey’s Anatomy and Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.
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YinYangMom
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Those are fair criticisms.I’m of the opinion that the new season is absolute ****. I’ve been watching since day one, and I thought the first season was some of the highest quality television i’ve ever seen. But I was worried that they would try to drag the series out in order to milk all the money they can get out of it - and that’s what they’re doing now.
Lost, at most, deserves only two or three seasons. Season one was a perfect hook for the series, and left us with a lot of questions. Season two should have kept us guessing for a little while longer and towards then end should’ve answered a few of the minor questions. The third season should’ve been the conclusion of the series that neatly wrapped up the whole series.
Instead season three is dragging the show out for so long that it’s starting to loose it’s luster. The twists don’t do it for me anymore (do I really care about Ben’s tumor or Mr. Echo’s death?) and the character development has gone stagnant. The show no longer captivates me, and I find myself being bored by the series. The “others” aren’t exciting to me (besides the blonde woman
I don’t care about these characters anymore. I’m tired of them randomly introducing new minor characters that were passengers on the flight, but we’ve never seen before. The show has been a major dissappointment for me and I hate to see it become so bad. I’m ready for them to wrap everything up and answer all the questions but I know that won’t happen for a few more seasons.
…can you tell i’m angry about Lost?
If you want intelligent and exciting television then I recommend you check out Grey’s Anatomy and Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.
Dancelittleewok thinks it deserves and Emmy…I do not agree and mostly for the reasons you’ve stated.
We are 6 episodes into the season and not a single glimpse of carryover from last seasons cliff-hanger (so to speak) showing Desmond’s love interest in charge of the two guys in the ice.
The writers had to give us backstory on Ecko because he was leaving…fair enough…at least it was an interesting story…but it feels ‘put in’ where it didn’t need to be.
The Others development along with the triangle of Sawyer, Kate and Jack is necessary because that was part of the last season’s ending…
but again, that leaves the segments involving John and the rock singer and the australian mum unimportant (how sorry is that? I can’t even remember the names already!)…so that any screen time with them or Hurley feels more as in interruption than before when I looked forward to learning more about each character’s back story and was able to see how they link together now.
I’m wondering if the show is suffering from actors not picking up contracts…ecko’s portrayer was one of those…of course they released the two ladies, but according to sources they were being written off anyway…
I’m bothered to have two new survivors step into the storyline because of John managing with a different style than Jack - that seemed a forced and contrived way to try to get the viewers to get curious about the new faces.
Did Michael and his son really leave the island? Apparently so…I didn’t know those two actors were not returning. I guess I’m still disappointed there’s no mention of that 6 episodes in either…Hurley’s been back on the island - what the heck is the response of the survivors to learn their only physician has been kidnapped and better yet two of them actually made it off the island!
Nah…it’s a good season but it’s leaving me more frustrated than satisfied and while I’m curious to see how the triangle gets out and whether or not that new creepy beauty goes with them, it’s not the same kind of anticipation I had in season two. I’m getting the impression season three is about Jack/Sawyer/Kate and the rest is fluff around them and that’s an insult to the other characters whose actors portray them fantastically.
I’m not angry, though. Disappointed, but not angry.
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Karen1996
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I don’t like the 2 newbies, some of y’all have mentioned above. They’re aggravating. It’s not like when Desmond, the Tailies, and the Others joined up.
When the February premier airs I, of course, want to know what happens with Jack, Kate, and Sawyer, Alex, etc, but I would love to see a Desmond-centered episode. I love the story about he and Penny. And when they, if ever, tie up loose ends, I think their reunion would be the most longed for.
Also, I would love to see Danielle reunited with her daughter.
Who would you all like to see more of in future episodes?
When the February premier airs I, of course, want to know what happens with Jack, Kate, and Sawyer, Alex, etc, but I would love to see a Desmond-centered episode. I love the story about he and Penny. And when they, if ever, tie up loose ends, I think their reunion would be the most longed for.
Also, I would love to see Danielle reunited with her daughter.
Who would you all like to see more of in future episodes?
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punisherthunder
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A fact and some thoughts:
- The survivors are NOT in purgatory. abc.com has a special message board on there for LOST fans where the writers and directors actually shoot down any theories. The creators themselves have said they are not dead, nor are they in purgatory.
- Last night’s show didn’t really answer anything. And I agree, they should cut out the whole split season thing.
- Kate and Sawyer have had a million chances to escape and never seize them. Hopefully they will take advantage and run. But even if they do run, will the Others let Jack go?
- Anyone think that Juliet will help Jack get what he wants? Last week she was holding up cue cards on the tape saying let Ben die. This is her chance to really take charge. Or was that all just another game?
- Locke and the rest of the survivors need to hurry up and get a rescue team together!
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Dancelittleewok
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My thing about the Emmy is more about the actors than the series itself. LOST has one of the best ensemble on TV.
YingYang, you’re right this season doesn’t have the anticipation of Season 2. I didn’t see the first season, so I am new the game. I am too frustrated that mysterious are left unsolved, but then again I’m diehard fan of the X-Files. What displeases me the most is this cliffhanger…Keep the show running! You’re losing viewers as it is…
I agree that Hurley, and the rest aren’t getting enough screentime. His storyline in Season 2 about the island being a hallunication was interesting and I’d like to see them explore that theory. I think maybe the focus on J, K, and S is so we can learn about the Others, which has been hinted at, but never explained their purpose on the island. Hopefully, by learning about them we can see the connection between Season 2 finale and Season 3 fall finale. I do not understand why the writers introduced two new characters when the rest of the passenger’s storylines are left unexplored.
P.S. If you like narrative storylines, check out Battlestar Galactica on Scifi Channel.
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lukefan
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Although I like Grey’s Anatomy, there is just too much casual sex on that show. I stopped watching after last season.
I’ll stick with Lost for now but I have to admit, it’s getting hard to follow all these characters and storylines - I just got DVR - best use of $13.00 a month.
I’ll stick with Lost for now but I have to admit, it’s getting hard to follow all these characters and storylines - I just got DVR - best use of $13.00 a month.
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Dandelion_Wine
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In regards to the 6 now, 16 later - my wife heard or read somewhere that the production time for LOST is huge. It’s not a half-hour sitcom situated mostly in a living room. They said each episode is like shooting a mini-movie. So I think the 6 episodes were what they could get done and the 16 in a row would give them enough time to get those all down in the time frame.
I didn’t know Mr. Echo wanted off. It did seem his story was contrived and out of place. After reading everyone’s responses, I still don’t get it.
And the " you talk to me as if I were your brother comment" - I took that as a - you disgust me and are no brother of mine if you’re going to take that attitude.
Desmond maybe didn’t foresee Mr. Echo’s death and that’s why he didn’t know. I can’t imagine he sees everything - just what “the island” wants him to see.
I assumed in regards to Jack not being on Jacob’s list - that Ethan’s real name was Jacob. Which would make it quite interesting on why Ethan/Jacob would withold that info from Ben.
I’m pretty sure the guy Kate was talking to on the phone was the marshall that was on the plane with her.
It does seem curious to me that there’s been no mention of Walk & Michael. And as someone pointed out, not much reaction by those left on the island.
And my final thought for now, after the whole pace-maker thing with Sawyer, I question EVERYTHING. (Great ploy by the writers, btw). What’s a test? What’s real? Who’s telling the truth and when? etc.
I’m still hooked.
I didn’t know Mr. Echo wanted off. It did seem his story was contrived and out of place. After reading everyone’s responses, I still don’t get it.
And the " you talk to me as if I were your brother comment" - I took that as a - you disgust me and are no brother of mine if you’re going to take that attitude.
Desmond maybe didn’t foresee Mr. Echo’s death and that’s why he didn’t know. I can’t imagine he sees everything - just what “the island” wants him to see.
I assumed in regards to Jack not being on Jacob’s list - that Ethan’s real name was Jacob. Which would make it quite interesting on why Ethan/Jacob would withold that info from Ben.
I’m pretty sure the guy Kate was talking to on the phone was the marshall that was on the plane with her.
It does seem curious to me that there’s been no mention of Walk & Michael. And as someone pointed out, not much reaction by those left on the island.
And my final thought for now, after the whole pace-maker thing with Sawyer, I question EVERYTHING. (Great ploy by the writers, btw). What’s a test? What’s real? Who’s telling the truth and when? etc.
I’m still hooked.
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YinYangMom
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The actor was interviewed in Entertainment Weekly. From the get go he wasn’t interested in a long term storyline.
OH, that’s good! How did I miss that?!
Oh gosh…who’s Ethan? Wasn’t he the one who was killed by the female cop? It never occured to me there was a name switch going on, but then again Ben was that other guy with the balloon. And really…why did he feel the need to do that since the survivors would have no clue as to what Ben’s real identity and status on the island is…so yeah…for all we know none of the names of the “Others” are legitimate…
Walt and Michael! Oh yeah, and it was me who finds it really odd that people aren’t freaking out about realizing two people actually made it off the island…(IF they did)…
Yeah, come to think of it, I rank that episode above the others for Emmy material…that was great!
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AnthonyM2
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Ethan, who was in the first season (and in some flashbacks in season 2), was posing as a survivor, until Hurley took an inentory of the names on the flight manifest and realized Ethan was not on it. Then he kidnapped Clare (the girl who was pregnant) who later escaped with amnesia, and when Ethan came back for her, he was shot by Charlie (the British pop star / heroin addict who likes Clare). Hope that helps.Oh gosh…who’s Ethan? Wasn’t he the one who was killed by the female cop? It never occured to me there was a name switch going on, but then again Ben was that other guy with the balloon. And really…why did he feel the need to do that since the survivors would have no clue as to what Ben’s real identity and status on the island is…so yeah…for all we know none of the names of the “Others” are legitimate…
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legeorge
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I’m totally addicted to this stupid show. I thought it was someone’s twisted idea of purgatory right from the beginning. Not the purgatory we know, but someone’s weird idea of it. Especially when all the “good” people were taken right away, and the others seem to die right after they have faced all their demons and resolved all their past issues.
Speaking of the healings, Locke and Rose were both healed, and Sun was too! She was infertile, remember? But now she’s pregnant.
Also, didn’t they say something about Eko going somewhere to study? His brother had planned a trip to London? I think to do further study. After the horrible incident with the killings, didn’t Eko decided to go in his brother’s place? Or did I get that wrong?
No doubt, the show is chock full of really bad theology and I wish they would lay off all the specifically Catholic stuff. It just perpetuates old myths and misconceptions. But I really enjoy the show anyway. I almost fainted when I found out that there weren’t going to be any more new episodes until February! At least we’ll get 14 in a row then. Hopefully they will start to tie some of the loose ends together, unless the writers have “lost” track of them all.
Speaking of the healings, Locke and Rose were both healed, and Sun was too! She was infertile, remember? But now she’s pregnant.
Also, didn’t they say something about Eko going somewhere to study? His brother had planned a trip to London? I think to do further study. After the horrible incident with the killings, didn’t Eko decided to go in his brother’s place? Or did I get that wrong?
No doubt, the show is chock full of really bad theology and I wish they would lay off all the specifically Catholic stuff. It just perpetuates old myths and misconceptions. But I really enjoy the show anyway. I almost fainted when I found out that there weren’t going to be any more new episodes until February! At least we’ll get 14 in a row then. Hopefully they will start to tie some of the loose ends together, unless the writers have “lost” track of them all.
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NPS
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That’s what it is–it’s just so much more involved than filming a sitcom on a set which sits there every day all year waiting for you to come to work. They got so much flak for chopping it up last year–new episode/repeat/new episode/repeat— that they decided to just show new ones until right before the holidays and then come back and do only new episodes in a long run to finish out the year.
Sawyer fans—I think they keep screwing up with him. He’s the most underrated character on the show and has sadly become the most underwritten.
He’s lived his life as a con man with a secret heart of gold who survives by knowing people better than they know themselves, yet lately they have been writing his character as if he’s some sort of hick dummy.
At the end of last season, when Michael tricked them all into going over and then getting captured, Michael was so obviously lying to select certain people to go and to keep the number of people at a manageable level and Sawyer just went with it and fell for the trap hook line and sinker.
Now they have him in a cage and they’ve taken away his desire and ability to escape by showing him…that he’s on another island??? Arrgh.
On last week’s fall finale when he wouldn’t leave his cage because there was “nowhere to go”—it was stupid and un-Sawyerlike.
But then, to me, the whole let’s-not-get-away-and-have-sex-on-the-floor-of-this-cage-instead ending was far from stellar.
Oh well–Good show overall, but—it’s just a TV show.
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