Lost in the Catholic Church

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dyspepsic said:
What do you mean “it was taught, but it is not catholic teaching”.

You should be ashamed of yourself for spreading such falsehoods.

You have nothing better to do than to lie about our Faith?
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What I mean is that many Catholics do not pass on the Catholic Faith and this nobody denies.

You should be ashamed of yourself for twisting my words to fit your personal agenda.

Next time, maybe you should read my post and then re-read it with a dictionary and thesaurus close at hand, and then maybe we can continue an intelligent conversation. Deal?
 
latinmasslover said:
What I mean is that many Catholics do not pass on the Catholic Faith and this nobody denies.

You should be ashamed of yourself for twisting my words to fit your personal agenda.

Next time, maybe you should read my post and then re-read it with a dictionary and thesaurus close at hand, and then maybe we can continue an intelligent conversation. Deal?
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No deal!

Maybe a course in elemental composition would serve you best. followed by a course in literary analysis.
 
Dear Kungfu,
It is so very very obvious that you are unfamiliar with the Catholic Church and it’s teachings. I will pray for you.
 
kungfubob said:
I was Baptised in a Chapel in County Derry,N.Ireland and have attented Mass regulary and recieved Holy Comunion for near 30 years. I am not a Protestant and i never will be as they have just as much to answer for as the Catholic Church does. The Religions of this Earth are man-made and there-fore suit their own political agenda.Pleasing Governments all along the way. You ask “why is this post doing here?” Because i found Jesus and i want to let others who feel lost in their Church, regardless of Religion or creed that there is a light. Jesus Christ. He saved my life.
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Proselytizing Catholics is against the forums rules. CAF is a place for questions and answers, not to attempt to “enlighten” us, who recognize the same truth that BILLIONS of people over the last 2000 years have also recognized, with your nonsensical ramblings.
 
kungfubob said:
I have read Thomas and i know how he had doubts about Jesus’s resurection and Jesus came back to him to show him the way. I have full belief in Christ and i know what he has done for me
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We’re talking about the Gospel of Thomas, I’m assuming? Hmm, I wonder how that one managed to slip past the theologians who drafted the canon . . .

Anyway, Thomas didn’t doubt Christ’s resurrection; Thomas doubted that He had appeared to everyone else. Jesus could have appeared separately to Thomas, just as he had done with Cleopas and Peter, but he didn’t. He did this on purpose: He knew Thomas’ devotion and used Thomas and the words he spoke in recognition of the Lord, “My Lord and My God,” as a reminder to all that through the mystery is the reality. I say those words at every Mass (2,000 years later).

I believe that the main problem with your faith is that you haven’t read the bible (yet you have made time to read the Gospel of Thomas?) and what parts you don’t read carefully. The above passage is a good example. You read the passage as Thomas doubted that Christ was resurrected, yet that isn’t what the story tells us. I think you will find if you read more carefully, setting aside your biases and opinions, you will reach a far different conclusion.

Erin Go Bragh!
 
dyspepsic said:
No deal!

Maybe a course in elemental composition would serve you best. followed by a course in literary analysis.
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I figured I’d get a response of third grade maturity. Better luck on the playground, bud.
 
dyspepsic said:
No deal!

Maybe a course in elemental composition would serve you best. followed by a course in literary analysis.
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People who can’t understand obvious, simple statements shouldn’t use big words. You need to grow up. Re-read my post, understand it, and *then *respond. If it’s still a mystery, nag someone who has time to continue childish games. I’m through.
 
dyspepsic said:
No deal!

Maybe a course in elemental composition would serve you best. followed by a course in literary analysis.
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I am afraid that you are in the wrong here. There is nothing wrong with the compositional structure or meaning of the post. I went back and reread it to be sure.
Latinmasslover stated that “some Catholics are taught”, she did not say that the “Catholic Church teaches”. These are two entirely different things.

The Catholic Church does not teach error, but that does not mean that error cannot be taught by members of the Catholic Church.

I am posting this, because the debate was becoming unchristian, and I felt that we should use Jesus teaching to take it to several bretheren to settle the dispute.

Peace
James
 
JRKH said:
I am afraid that you are in the wrong here. There is nothing wrong with the compositional structure or meaning of the post. I went back and reread it to be sure.
Latinmasslover stated that “some Catholics are taught”, she did not say that the “Catholic Church teaches”. These are two entirely different things.

The Catholic Church does not teach error, but that does not mean that error cannot be taught by members of the Catholic Church.

I am posting this, because the debate was becoming unchristian, and I felt that we should use Jesus teaching to take it to several bretheren to settle the dispute.

Peace
James
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Some people are taught that hell doesn’t exist, or that Jesus is not the Son of God, or that Adam and Eve is just a myth, or that the Pope is a heretic, or that Jesus is not present in the Eucharist, or that the Latin Mass is better than Mass in English cause Latin is the language of God and the angels, or that Rome believes that one religion is as good as another, or …and on, and on.

These are things we are all familar with, and they are not teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. It is not worth repeating them.

I am still waiting for some to show me statements by Walter Kasper saying that one religion is as good as another…but I am sure I will wait a very long time.

You have to be careful what you say, what you write, and not be careless for the truth.

Latinmasslover thinks Mass in latin is better than in the vernacular, I am sure. But, he was careless with the truth, and started to say I have an agenda. Yes, I have an agenda, that everyone speak the truth. What is wrong with that?

Latinmasslover is on site. What is wrong with him that you have to answer a post directed at him. What happens on this part of the website is that all the traditionalists come running when one of their own is in trouble, and play ‘king of the mountian’, and you are new here, and all that baloney. Truth is truth, and newcomers have just as much right to the truth as ‘oldtimers’.
 
I am sorry that you are lost in the Catholic Church, but you arent the first person who tried to bring down the Church and unfortunately you wont be the last. But i learned you have to live with yourself. thats punishment enough i guess. You know even if i was protestant, or any other religion, i still would not talk about it like you did, i would be afraid of offending God and his CHurch. But oh well, and if your are for real my heart goes out to your parents. They must really be suffering, it has to be horrible for a parent to live so strongly for God and have a child turn away from the faith and Mock it like this. God Bless them and they are in my prayers.
 
rinnie said:
I am sorry that you are lost in the Catholic Church, but you arent the first person who tried to bring down the Church and unfortunately you wont be the last. But i learned you have to live with yourself. thats punishment enough i guess. You know even if i was protestant, or any other religion, i still would not talk about it like you did, i would be afraid of offending God and his CHurch. But oh well, and if your are for real my heart goes out to your parents. They must really be suffering, it has to be horrible for a parent to live so strongly for God and have a child turn away from the faith and Mock it like this. God Bless them and they are in my prayers.
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To whom are you speaking?
 
dyspepsic said:
Some people are taught that hell doesn’t exist, or that Jesus is not the Son of God, or that Adam and Eve is just a myth, or that the Pope is a heretic, or that Jesus is not present in the Eucharist, or that the Latin Mass is better than Mass in English cause Latin is the language of God and the angels, or that Rome believes that one religion is as good as another, or …and on, and on.

These are things we are all familar with, and they are not teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. It is not worth repeating them.

I am still waiting for some to show me statements by Walter Kasper saying that one religion is as good as another…but I am sure I will wait a very long time.

You have to be careful what you say, what you write, and not be careless for the truth.

Latinmasslover thinks Mass in latin is better than in the vernacular, I am sure. But, he was careless with the truth, and started to say I have an agenda. Yes, I have an agenda, that everyone speak the truth. What is wrong with that?

Latinmasslover is on site. What is wrong with him that you have to answer a post directed at him. What happens on this part of the website is that all the traditionalists come running when one of their own is in trouble, and play ‘king of the mountian’, and you are new here, and all that baloney. Truth is truth, and newcomers have just as much right to the truth as ‘oldtimers’.
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I won’t try to answer all the points in your post simply because my post wasn’t addressed to all of them. I don’t even know who Walter Kasper is.
In addition there seems to be a rather defensive element to the response and I don’t wish to get into an argument over why I chose to respond to a post placed on a public forum.

When I saw the exchange between you and latinmasslover over his statement about catholic teaching, I followed the quoted posts back to where the statement was made. I reread that post and the subsequent posts related to it. I then provided my take on the origional post based on what I saw and how I read it. What I read seemed to be well written and clear, that some things that are not catholic teaching have, none the less, been taught by catholics.

Perhaps I was too harsh when I started my post out by saying you were wrong. For that I apologize. You simply mis-read what i believe latinmasslover was trying to convey.

Peace
James
 
dyspepsic said:
Some people are taught that hell doesn’t exist, or that Jesus is not the Son of God, or that Adam and Eve is just a myth, or that the Pope is a heretic, or that Jesus is not present in the Eucharist, or that the Latin Mass is better than Mass in English cause Latin is the language of God and the angels, or that Rome believes that one religion is as good as another, or …and on, and on.

These are things we are all familar with, and they are not teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. It is not worth repeating them.

I am still waiting for some to show me statements by Walter Kasper saying that one religion is as good as another…but I am sure I will wait a very long time.

You have to be careful what you say, what you write, and not be careless for the truth.

Latinmasslover thinks Mass in latin is better than in the vernacular, I am sure. But, he was careless with the truth, and started to say I have an agenda. Yes, I have an agenda, that everyone speak the truth. What is wrong with that?

Latinmasslover is on site. What is wrong with him that you have to answer a post directed at him. What happens on this part of the website is that all the traditionalists come running when one of their own is in trouble, and play ‘king of the mountian’, and you are new here, and all that baloney. Truth is truth, and newcomers have just as much right to the truth as ‘oldtimers’.
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First, I’m a she.

Second, my personal opinion is of no consequence when debating truth.

Please leave your opinion of what you think I believe out and stick with the subject . Presumption only starts fights.

Peace.
 
JRKH said:
I am afraid that you are in the wrong here. There is nothing wrong with the compositional structure or meaning of the post. I went back and reread it to be sure.
Latinmasslover stated that “some Catholics are taught”, she did not say that the “Catholic Church teaches”. These are two entirely different things.

The Catholic Church does not teach error, but that does not mean that error cannot be taught by members of the Catholic Church.

I am posting this, because the debate was becoming unchristian, and I felt that we should use Jesus teaching to take it to several bretheren to settle the dispute.

Peace
James
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Thank you for the defense as well as the gentle reprimand for both dyspepsic and myself. I know *my *feelings were becoming quite unChristian and was likely to have said something worse had you not intervened. Peace.
 
latinmasslover said:
Thank you for the defense as well as the gentle reprimand for both dyspepsic and myself. I know *my *feelings were becoming quite unChristian and was likely to have said something worse had you not intervened. Peace.
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No problem.
I’ve found myself in the same boat many times.

I can’t even begin to count the number of times I have had to delete parts of posts because of what I caught myself saying.

Then of course I sometimes go ahead and say it anyway… 🤷

Peace
James
 
Long time listner first time caller here. Er, first time poster that is. 🙂
They have the wealth to wipe out the third-world hunger but every Sunday priests across the world make us feel guilty so we will pay more into the basket for the starving children,but in reality the vast majority of the money taken in each week goes to fund evil doings and sheer greed
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I have so little money sometimes to give to Church it’s all I can do someitmes to get together two dollars for my children for each of them to put into the collection basket. (Which they look forward to).

I have NEVER been made to feel guilty for being poor in a poor economy. No one has ever looked at me funny when I don’t drop in a 5 or a 10 dollar bill into the basket. My kids drop in 4 quarters and some dimes them selves and are proud to be helping out the causes of the Church.

P.S. I did just get a new job two weeks ago with a significant raise so I will be able to contribute more now than before and I am so happy to be able to do so.

-John in Texas
 
They have the wealth to wipe out the third-world hunger but every Sunday priests across the world make us feel guilty so we will pay more into the basket for the starving children,but in reality the vast majority of the money taken in each week goes to fund evil doings and sheer greed

And were you asked for specifics about the “evil doings and sheer greed” that the “vast majority of the money” goes to, i really doubt you could answer.
 
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