Loud children at Mass. thoughts?

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I’m lost…how is a kid in church putting your spiritual life in danger?

I’m with @seekingtruechurch , parishioners that feel this way about kids in church should ask that one of the masses be 18 and over.

At my wife’s parish, that’s the 4:15 Saturday.
 
OK, I just wanted to make sure I understood before replying.

I for one have no issue with praying (when I do attend), but being a parent I have no problem tuning out kids that aren’t mine 😉
 
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He’s not my priest…I said A Priest.

Being heretical is better than nothing at all.

Thanks for being so uplifting. I’m not Moaning, just replying to a post. I do not make threats. But before you go to your next Mass, ponder on why the Church is dwindling.

Church is supposed to be a family, a community. I see you didn’t disagree with the suggestion of child free Mass. Would you continue to visit or break bread with family members that only treated you with disdain?

Hope all the families with small children in your parish are granted dispensation so they can stay home without guilt and find themselves free from the stink eye.
 
Sothe pre conciliar church didn’t have a family atmosphere? Doesn’t look like the post conciliar church is one other, so i guess I miss your point.

So the church is supposed to be a place of perpetual mourning…please do not enter with a smile, I have already reached that understanding.

Heretical is better than secular. Some truth better than no truth.
 
So we should all come to Mass in perpetual mourning, free of children, no concern for our fellow parishioners because it is about me and God anyway and remove the sign of peace from the Mass so that it doesn’t disturb or break my concentration.

Why not just stay home and watch Mass on EWTN, ask your priest to keep you in supply of blessed Host and simply mail your tithe or make it online.

Problem solved…you control the environment.
 
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I have no problem tuning out kids or babies when they cry. That’s what they do.

However it’s kind of hard to tune out a kid that’s kicking you and some kids have been known to do that while the parents do nothing.
 
I’m sorry I’m not sure where you got off on the tangent that I believe Mass should not be reverent or that I thought the advice of the priest I mentioned I was I in agreement.

You sailed that ship all by yourself.

May God soften your heart and open your eyes to the Church…the Church is the people…children included.

Like I suggested before, ask your priest to celebrate a childless Mass. Either he will agree with you or he will enlighten you.

Happy Holidays!
 
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Possible, however I wonder how often that happens.

I’ve had kids kick my chair or drop something up under our feet. I usually find that a time to connect with them.
 
It does happen a lot more than you think.

You mentioned trying to connect with kids who kick your chair or drop something under your feet. I’m careful not to do that. A lot of parents don’t like it if a stranger tries to interact with their kids.
 
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I guess I must be luck then…🤷‍♂️

If a kid drops something and it gets in my feet, sorry…I’m going to interact and give it back. If you don’t want strangers to interact with your kid…don’t let your kid interact with strangers first 😉
 
If a child drops a toy near me, I ignore the child and hand the toy back to the parents. They don’t seem to mind.
 
I usually give it to whomever is behind me…same deal, they don’t seem to mind.
 
Loud children at mass are a sign of biological evangelisation. I’d hope that Catholics have more children than the seculars of society.
Only if the children are younger than seven-years-old.

Seven-year-old and older children (who are NOT special needs kids) are old enough to know how to behave properly at church. If older children misbehave during the Mass, it’s only a sign that they’re undisciplined and that their parents have failed to teach them how to behave properly at a Mass.
 
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If a child drops a toy near me, I ignore the child and hand the toy back to the parents. They don’t seem to mind.
That’s a good move, because then the parent can either give the toy to the child or put it away.
 
Agree 100% - so distracting.
Don’t we longtime decades faithful folks count for anything? I know its all about the young families for the church’s future but come on!
When you can’t hear the homily, when you just about jump out of your skin with a piercing scream behind you? This is a good thing?
Our pastor and some volunteers constructed a nice glassed in, family room with a fantastic view right up in the back of our historic church yet several families (even at the Saturday 4:30) just will not go up there and opt to sit in the back of the church distracting all the people who sit back there.
No thank you!
 
This I agree with. There is a certain age where there should be little or no tolerance (aside from mental/physical limitations) for noise and misbehavior. The Church teaches there is an age of reason, and as parents we should know when that is and make sure that once that age comes our kids already have a history of knowing the rules.
 
If a child drops a toy near me, I ignore the child and hand the toy back to the parents. They don’t seem to mind.
Not to long ago a very little tykes ball rolled up under the pew and hit my heel…the parents had two others and they are all wee ones…I just gave it a little kick backwards with my heel and looked at the child and gave her a little smile, she giggled…and after mass I made sure to hi and interacted briefly with the parents…I came away thrice blessed after that mass.
Instead of worrying about how put put out I was that my mass was interrupted I consciously decided to turn it around and try and be as humble and genteel as I possibly could…it felt good.
The parents know they have their hands full, but bless their hearts there they are with their family worshipping.
A kind smile goes a long way instead of a sour scowl…

Just my two cents…
 
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This I agree with. There is a certain age where there should be little or no tolerance (aside from mental/physical limitations) for noise and misbehavior. The Church teaches there is an age of reason, and as parents we should know when that is and make sure that once that age comes our kids already have a history of knowing the rules.
I assume that you would apply that zero-tolerance rule to mentally and physically competent adults. The problem is, how will we ever know? How do you or I, as outsiders, judge someone else’s competence? The old lady who thinks she’s whispering but is actually super loud and distracting?

I agree that children (and adults) ought to learn to be quiet and reasonably still during Mass, but grace and abundant mercy toward those less competent ought to prevail.
 
For those of the age of reason, a very effective discipline was used in my day. (I’m assuming a physical condition is not the cause). Within 2 or 3 masses, the effects were noticed. Just threaten the loss of something the child cherishes and will lose after the mass. A sit in the corner of his room for an afternoon works wonders, or something of that nature. For those who think this too oppressive, we(the children in the community) received corporal punishment(Sirach) in our days. Works wonders, and he learns to be a better fit for society. You can’t be a softee for this to work, otherwise the lesson is not learned PLUS you get labeled as a push-over. They learn quick.

For the babies/toddlers, they seem to be more a problem during the sermon, as I wish to hear it, and I have bad hearing, but I can take it the rest of the time. Mom’s in my Church usually know enough to go to the back of the Church if too unruly.

But as a rule, we should be more tolerant, as the child is also a child of the community, and we all have a familial interest in his proper Christian development just as the parents promised he would at his baptism. We are to assist his parents in our attitudes. No child should miss a mass.

It’s remarkable to see an unruly child turn into a good boy or girl scout later. I’ve seen a few of them grow too.
 
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