Loud children at Mass. thoughts?

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The shrinks are all “goofy” now. Well at least they aren’t stupid. Actually, you really can make a fairly good assessment of how long a child is attentive to a hands on task, which is why Montessori curriculum features such tasks so prevelantly, and also why increasing attention span is such a large part of their marketing. A passive task, such as listening to Mass, is much harder to gauge accurately. I suppose you could quiz them afterward? Frankly, I’m not really that concerned if my 5yo actually pays attention to the priest or not. I don’t think that’s the point. I do expect her to be reasonably respectful to others and not make it so reasonable people can’t hear or pay attention.
 
Anyone who plays mind reader will get into trouble and lead children astray, similar to racists.
 
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My mom taught Montessori for 32 years. Choice of work is undeniably a tenet of Montessori philosophy. The environment is highly structured, students must have had a lesson before they can do certain work, but the child chooses what to work on.
 
Catholics don’t have enough kids nowadays. I’d rather have loud kids at church than an aging church. God bless the kids, and if they scream a little during the gospel, I don’t mind.
 
I feel like I can’t win with the cry room issue.

“Why do parents take their children to the cry room? It’s actually a rumpus room, and the children miss participating in the Mass.”

“Wow! That kid is really fussy! Why aren’t her parents taking her to the cry room?”

With my ADHD kid, I spent much of Mass in the narthex, where I couldn’t hear anything due to a poor sound system and noisy ADULTS. There was no nursery. It felt like I was just there for drive-up-window McEucharist.
Amen amen amen
 
Is it possible the sound of children’s voices is better evangelization than the priest’s homily? Especially in this sterile and selfish time?
 
‘loud children’ during Mass drive me nuts. However, being a parent myself, I do understand that YOUNG kids (before age 6) are not the most ‘in-tune’ with what is going on and don’t understand that “This is Mass, we don’t make noise.”

So for me, as long as it doesn’t completely distract me, it’s tolerable. Only once has a loud kid broken my concentration. At the time that it did happen, in the middle of the consecration, it also distracted my pastor/presider. He lost his place in the middle of it. THAT was rude, and the parent should have taken the kid out of the church.
 
Right from your pope’s mouth.

 
That is different. I’m talking about children that are perfectly capable of listening and being quiet
 
My grandpa was at the retirement party of a friend of his a rabbi he met in chaplain school. The news was there to interview him because he survived auschwitz as a teenager and move to the us then joined the army. His grandchildren were running around and it had been a long day for them. He said matter of factly let them make noise. What better way to show the world we are still here then seeing our children’s children play.
 
I was no angel…I have a very vivd and visceral memory as a very young child when I was being a little heathen in church and my mom taking me out to the preverbal woodshed…instead it was the car…

I was never that bad again…🥴
 
I was no angel…I have a very vivd and visceral memory as a very young child when I was being a little heathen in church and my mom taking me out to the preverbal woodshed…instead it was the car…

I was never that bad again…🥴
Or maybe you were. Our memories have ways of playing tricks on us.
 
Loud children at mass are a sign of biological evangelisation. I’d hope that Catholics have more children than the seculars of society.
 
I am not directing my comments at any particular child or parent, but instead offering a view counter to what seems to me a growing trend in over diagnosing and over medicating children for attentional issues.

I am not alone.

Look at the work that Dr Kevin Majeres at Harvard (he’s an MD) on this topic. He’s said he’s all but STOPPED medicating children for many of these disorders, instead returning to a focus on slow development of the human will. He’s having great success.
I might offend someone here by saying this, but I find it really hard to believe that ALL these medicated kids with diagnosable disorders ALL have diagnosable disorders.
 
Isn’t mass for everyone though? Do not hinder the little ones from coming to me?
Of course, it is for everyone, children included.
I just think they can be under enough control so we can hear the readings and homily…
 
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